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    Anyone know of a decent Cloud IDE?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Hungry Man, Sep 21, 2011.

  1. Hungry Man

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    Looking for an IDE that I can run from a browser. No java based IDE's.


    I'd prefer one that can use Dropbox for storage.


    Preferably for Java but post any.
     
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    CodeRun - Online IDE

    not for java, sorry.

    search for web browser ide instead. cloud is never a good search term, use something specific. or even chrome os ide or something.
     
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    cloud anything means nothing. but for him, it means coding in a webapp in a browser, as he has a chrome-os notebook, and that can't have real apps, only webapps.
     
  4. Hungry Man

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    Cloud IDE, Cloud-based IDE, browser-based IDE, internet-based IDE, whatever you want to call it.

    A conversation for another topic haha but you can Google native client... not sure how a web-app is somehow fake either!

    Thanks for CodeRun. I'll take a look. Java's what I'm learning in school though.
     
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    cloud IDE ?

    I use IDE because the feature it provides like intellisense and I doubt a cloud based app can provide that. Without those things, I would rather use vi.
     
  6. Hungry Man

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    Why would intellisense not be possible? I can't imagine what part of it being done on the server would change.
     
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    It is not whether it is possible but how smooth it is. But do it in whatever way you like.
     
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    it would be less efficient than locally, but actually both are possible (most search engines by now have "intellisense", kinda, from a server. as the keywords are restricted, one could do it in javascript locally, too).

    don't want to know how fast a javascript parser would be (the thing that would have to analyze the code for the intellisense), though..

    i'm so glad i don't have to leave visual studio. nothing yet beats that.
     
  9. Hungry Man

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    Google instant works fine.

    I use Eclipse for Java on my Windows machine. Being able to take my CR48 to class would make my life easier though. I would much prefer it for something like this.

    And the potential benefits of "the cloud" would be great for large projects where my other computer would be bogged down during compilation.
     
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    i've yet to bog down any of my computers with compiling.

    and no, doing it on the web does not fix that. there are cloud compilers btw (for c++ mainly). they don't work in the internet, they work in the local network.

    stuff that is on an internet server != the cloud.

    but yeah, network distribution of bigger tasks can be useful. not that compilation ever takes more than 1-2 seconds in c#, though.. :)

    eclipse, shudder.. had to use that in school for a while.. still scares me :)
     
  11. Hungry Man

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    Compiling PCSX2 brought me down to a crawl back when I had 4GB of RAM.

    While cloud ides may not take advantage of it they certainly could, which is my point.
     
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    just as noncloud ide's could (and do).

    cloudschmoud, that funky buzzword :)
     
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    IDE is for active development, not for compiling for things lik say linux kernel. For those things, you ssh into some high power server and let it do the work then forget.

    As for eclipse, it is java based and is slow and a memory hog.

    There is only ONE GUI IDE which is Visual Studio. Anything else is a joke. In last century, Borland had some pretty impressive one(using then standard).

    comparing google instant with intellisense ?
     
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    No one's talking about linux kernels lol

    and yes, instant does a lookup into a database based on what you type just like intellisense, i assum ethat's how it works
     
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    sigh. i am speech less.
     
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    intellisense is about getting suggestions and autocomplete while typing something. so yes, it's similar to what a lot of search engines do.
     
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    As I said, I am speeh less.
     
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    Thanks I'll have a look.

    @Chimp, feel free to correct me
     
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    There isn't right or wrong but actual usage will tell the difference.

    Comparing with Visual Studio, Eclipse or Netbean or all those java oriented IDE just feel so bad. Sure they have some very good integration with enterprise oriented projects, but at a personal development level, visual studio is way ahead. And Eclipse etc. has been developed for years. How likely do you think a web based IDE would be polished to the extend of Eclipse, let alone Visual Studio ? Polishing an IDE needs time and feedback(of actual usage). Microsoft hired the key personnel from Borland(when it was the king of IDE) to help to develop Visual Studio.

    We all know intellisense and autocomplete(or google instant or whatever) are technically the same thing(thus stating the obvious is pointless). It is how smooth that matters when you are developing.

    Why would I use IDE ? Productivity.
     
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    I really don't need polish for what I'm doing. I need something that I can type in and I need it to compile. That's really it.
     
  22. ScuderiaConchiglia

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    Then why does it need to be "cloud" based? I don't understand the need to constrain your development in this way. It is obvious that no cloud based system will ever have a rich UI that a local machine based IDE will give you. So what is the compelling reason to give that up?

    Gary
     
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    Because I'm on ChromeOS. This was explained pretty early in the topic.
     
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    Well that WOULD be a compelling reason. I guess I missed that point with all the discussions of Visual Studio, Eclipse etc.

    gary
     
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    Does you Chromebook has ssh ? That was the method I use when I am on a very constrained machine.

    ssh into my 8-core server(if I choose to do it on my amazon EC2 instance), use my beloved vim/make. I can even do this on my Android client which I would assume is even more constrained than your chromebook.

    Beat the hell of any 'cloud' based solution. And that was related to my original comment about linux kernel. What you are doing is no difference that me modifying a linux kernel, firefox source then rebuild the whole thing, all done via 80x25 console. That actually was the first generation 'cloud'(then it was telnet/kermit)
     
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    Who cares whats best, you what others think what he should use, let him do his dev the way he wants to. If he find its not what he thought it would be then he can try another option.
     
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    Seems that he was asking for suggestion. I was trying to say cloud doesn't sound right for his intended usage.

    Of course it is him he decide what he use.
     
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    this is a discussion board. and it's used to discuss stuff. that's the whole point of it.
     
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    I could possibly do that. I'll look into it.