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    Best General Maintenance Program

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by jpzsports, Aug 28, 2008.

  1. AKAJohnDoe

    AKAJohnDoe Mime with Tourette's

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    If you read, you would see that I do run AV, I just do not believe I need it.
     
  2. merlin_72032

    merlin_72032 Notebook Evangelist

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    Man, you really pick my quote and take it aparts :D Okay, I agree with your about personal preference here. I look at the JkDefra website and browse through it. It practically does what Vista defrag does, so I don't see the benefit of installing the software on my company especially my own pc. Vista defrag is slow for a reason. Why? Because it runs at a low priority process, it intends to be seemless for its user and least impact on overall performance while it run. Defragment on XP really takes cpu time and cycle if you compare it with Vista.

    Well, it is the fact about Windows defender. You can take my word for it. You are also confused between cookies and trojans. They are totally different, and one of them quite harmless. Again, this is personal choice, and I respect that.

    Yes, if you are a home user, it is your personal preference. If you machine is entering my network, it is my responsibility to decide for you what is best for the company. Well, I also mean my job too. Got to keep my job right? :) Don't forget the fact that most of the users here run Vista as an admin. I let my users run their PCs on user privilege. It is a de facto if you really want to run the PC safely. You can ask any network engineers who specialize in security. They will say the same thing. Well, I don't run my own pc as user though :p.

    I do believe that we can generalize what is best and how to run the OS. Most of consumer software isn’t even enter into the corporate world because it isn't good enough, easy to manage, and buggy.
     
  3. merlin_72032

    merlin_72032 Notebook Evangelist

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    Okay, I got you. Still waiting for your answer about ActiveX. I do believe that ActiveX were created for programmers who want to implement the software in Windows environment. It helps speed up and simplify the implementation, but people just take advantage of it and use it in the wrong way. I don't see how it is 5-10 years behind? Most programmers are still using it today especailly if you program on .Net environment.
     
  4. AKAJohnDoe

    AKAJohnDoe Mime with Tourette's

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    You say tomato, I say tomatoe
    You say ActiveX, I say Java
    You say SilverLight, I say Flash
    You say Microsoft, I say the rest of the world

    In all honesty, Microsoft is just trying to carve a piece of the pie for themselves, and they are doing better in standards adherence, but most web development still needs to be done for the internet and then again for IE. Or, it is done for IE and then sometimes only works on IE.
     
  5. Thaenatos

    Thaenatos Zero Cool

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    CCleaner everyday and defrag every week. This simple rotation keeps my PC running better then new.
     
  6. AKAJohnDoe

    AKAJohnDoe Mime with Tourette's

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    When I had desktops within my scope of management responsibility users most certainly did not have admin authorities and the department that did have that authority would reimage any machine that was too problematic. Policy.

    Corporate desktops are a different matter than personal machines. The corporate desktop is a tool, owned by the company, to be used for business purposes. A personal machine is often a toy in many ways.
     
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    So you mean if I join your office some day and walk into your office with my laptop, with all the things I have and prefer having, you are gonna throw me and my laptop out of the window???? :D :D :D :p :p

    But still, I think securing your own machine should be an individuals choice... and you never know what might sneak in through with even the most secure corporate network ever... I don't know..
     
  8. AKAJohnDoe

    AKAJohnDoe Mime with Tourette's

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    I would not permit a "non-corporate" PC to directly connect into the corporate network. Via a VPN might be a different story, though. Grounds for dismissal in my book. Likewise for unauthorized software installed. I'm not real keen on having privately owned PCs even on the premises. Even those USB memory keys are problematic.
     
  9. fonduekid

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    *Sorry if this is going on a tangent from the original purpose of this thread*

    yeah, I have heard this before..

    but for me here in my lab I had a different kind of "rules" laid out...

    They said I can connect my PC to the network here in the department.. but they said I cannot "map" my laptop into the network since "its running on Vista" :confused: :confused: :confused: Is this true??? I was asking for this because we have a small utility written by our sys admin which allows users with laptops to run that small program which will map the laptop into the network and then we could access the common public and data storage servers n our own folders there.... but they said with Vista its not possible for them to let me in... I had no idea what they were trying to do or say, but then I just left it.. anyways, I usually have all my work data on my desktop here and the experimental comp., and I back them up into my Ext HDD and get it onto my laptop for working at home.. anyways....
     
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    AKAJohnDoe Mime with Tourette's

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    A fully isolated lab is a different matter, too. Some less stringent organizations could probably get by with just a separate subnet.

    "A small utility written by ...." Alas. These are words managers fear hearing and consultants love hearing.
     
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    merlin_72032 Notebook Evangelist

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    @AKAJohnDoe

    I think your comparison is totally off. Java and ActiveX is totally different architecture. It is more like a development platform. Well, Java is programming language, but ActiveX is just a part of the platform. You are close between SilverLight and Flash.

    To founduekid and AKAJohnDoe again.

    The PC can connect to the corporate network with no problem without striping anyhing out of your PC. JohnDoe miss the point about VPN quite a bit. VPN is just the way to dial-in into the network. You don't get any security when you are in the network. Actually, you can even compromise it. VPN just encrypt the traffic between you and the corporate network and nothing more. If your computer has a virus, you still can infect the network as a whole while you are using VPN.

    Okay, this is the solution. You can VPN or connect into my network as you want, but I will put you into a separate VLAN. I can contain whatever you bring with your computer from there because I secure that VLAN (subnet) to have limited connection to the rest of the network. For example, if you connect into my secure VLAN, you may be a ble to use only http/https and nothing more. No pop3 email, FTP, and etc. You wouldn't not ba able to browse my network or us my DNS or even probe my domain controller or other corporate server. You see my point?
     
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    True. ActiveX is really more akin to JavaScript.
     
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    I would allow "non-corporate" PC's to VPN into a Citrix box only. VPN to secure the connection; Citrix to restrict the access.

    Thankfully, I don't have to do any of this myself.
     
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    Critix box is just something like terminal server. If I want to VPN into my network and connect into file server or run server application on my local network such as database or finacial software, I don't think Critrix can do that.

    If you have customer who want to use your network at your company, are you going to tell them to go somewhere? They have to connect into the network somehow. VPN isn't even practical in this situation.
     
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    I think this thread has been hijacked long enough
     
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    Well, tell the moderator to close the thread then. I just correct what you said wrong. It is a good information for other people who want to know something about Windows but pick up the wrong information.

    Don't we learn from each other?
     
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    Gary has a duplucate file finder which is pretty good. However I notice it does it by name.

    Anyone know of a Duplicate finder (MP3s) that would find the size and maybe similar names? I have a lot of Mp3s and I know there are duplicated but windowsa may rename tehm (1) or the orgin have slight difference in name..
     
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