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    Best Internet Browser 2020-2021

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, May 4, 2020.

  1. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    What's your favorite browser and why?
     
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    Been using brave recently, mostly only because waterfox couldn't load these forums for a while.

    I still use waterfox for work but at home I tend to use brave.
     
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    Firefox... why replace something that works perfectly
     
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    Oper'uh.

    Simply because I'm used to it. I could easily switch to some other, but I've just stayed with it throughout the years.

    Close enough to Chrome, which makes it easy to use any of the addons for the latter.


    Can't say anything bad about Chrome, or Fx , or maybe even ME. Haven't tested the Chromium version of ME, but that one is probably pretty good as well.

    (yeah it's Fx, not FF, just like it's called windows 4.x, not 9x. Look at my pic, I'm grumpy.)
     
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    Don't forget Edgium. The combo of Chrome/Chromium codebase with the power efficiency of Edge (e.g. HW accelerated HEVC and VP9 decoding, browser access to native 4K and HDR platform support) could be an amazing win for Windows notebooks.
     
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    FF. But Vivaldi, previously just backup (basically for no-addons browsing, non-noscript etc) is now starting to be a strong contender for 1st place.
     
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    The best web browsers for 2020 digitaltrends.com | May 14, 2020

    I will continue use Chrome. Old habits, I know, but the other choices doesn't offer much more. And I won't support Microsoft even if it's Chromium based and got the award.. The web browser with the most potential.
     
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    I use Chrome simply because it syncs with my Galaxy S20+ so no need to install any password or bookmark manager. I would've imagined you would be a Safari user since you like iToys [​IMG]
     
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    Tried to change from firefox to chrome but my favorite is Firefox. Works great and flawlessly :)
     
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    We are all creatures of habit and gravitate to what we know and prefer, even when there are things we wish were different and circumstances that are not ideal. At the end of the day, it's all about what we are used to using, are most comfortable with, and like how it looks and feels.
     
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    I think the poll must be updated to include MS Edge Chromium.
     
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    I used it for a while and it was OK. It was basically Chrome with a Micro$lop account instead of a Google account. But, I've since removed it. Not because of any problems, but specifically because of a decision they made that reflect what poor judgment they have as a company. Now that it is out of beta they've made it where you cannot install Edge Chromium if you don't have the latest Windows Updates applied, so to hell with them. They can kiss my gluteus maximus. I'll install updates if I want to, when I want to. In other words, probably never. They can drop dead for all I care. I removed it as a matter of principle. I am not going to support their stupidity. They are not worthy of it.
     
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    What? You're kidding with me?
    [​IMG]
     
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    So stinky it is disgusting...

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    To this, I say "Drop dead."

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    Firefox out of principle. Google and MS are both scummy.
     
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    I use Business Edge installer https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/business/download
    Its easier to integrate with Win 10 custom slipstreamed images and gets rid off MS Edge Chakra which auto-starts every damn time even when its disabled.
    I have enabled their experimental ad-blocking, natural scrolling and few others using about:flags in Chromium Edge.
     
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    $5B Lawsuit Claims Google Still Tracks Users in Incognito Mode extremetech.com | June 3, 2020

    Google is facing yet another lawsuit that claims the search giant collects too much information on users. But what else is new? Well, this time the proposed class-action lawsuit claims Google has been collecting data on users even when it says it won’t. According to the plaintiffs, Google still monitors people via online tools when they have Incognito Mode enabled in Chrome. They demand at least $5 billion in damages.
     
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    Anyone doesn't believe it, I have some ocean beach property on the east side of Phoenix that I will sell really cheap.

    They track, collect, steal whatever they feel like and they feel entitled to it all. It's like they are self-endowed with the liberty to sedate and rape us as often as they wish, and with crApple and Micro$lop doing exactly the same thing there is no place for anyone to find refuge from their unwelcomed assaults.

    I've been tempted to just leave my cell phone at home from now on, especially since that Nazi dumbass COVID-19 Exposure Notification cancer got pushed puked onto my phone. I can't find a way to get rid of it. I did a factory reset and disabled updates and that piece of crap still came back.
     
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    You mean the COVID tracker thingo?

    I thought that was just an idea, was it actually mandated in some states or counties?
     
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    I am not sure. The last I heard Arizona rejected the invitation for participation ( thank God). I saw a list of states with a table showing yes/no for each state and there were some yes states drinking the Kool-Aid. Now, whether mandatory in some states or not I do not know. If it were mandatory by government decree I would cancel my cell service and go back to landline and VOIP. I'm not going to support "big brother" privacy intrusions and Constitutional violations like that no matter what kind of "greater good" idiotic dictatorship garbage they try to use to sugar-coat it.

    The underlying problem for me is that it exists and Google and Apple pushed this feces Android and iOS service to everyone without making it an opt-in or opt-out proposition for each user. It should not exist and neither Google, Apple nor any government (not to mention hackers and Dark Web players) can be trusted not to abuse it and exploit it in secret.

    Even if it is not being used now, it's a Trojan hiding in the shadows just waiting for something nefarious it can be deployed for later. This piece of crap is just one more example that serves as evidence of the fact that the tech world is run by retarded Nazi control freaks that are on a life-mission to steal and defraud everyone that provides the capital that affords them the privilege to exist. They talk a big talk about cultures of inclusion and equality and rights for everyone, and it's just a crock smokescreen... they do not walk the talk and they are not sincere. They should not be creating or facilitating any form of technology that allows private or government surveillance or special access, or even "anonymous" data harvesting relating to any aspect of our lives. If I wanted to live in a place like that I would move to North Korea, China or some other country that exalts their despot monarchy "leaders" to god status. It is not acceptable or welcomed here as far as I am concerned.
     
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    Privacy browser Brave busted for autocompleting URLs to versions it profits from zdnet.com | Today
    Brave, the privacy-focused Chromium browser from Mozilla co-founder and JavaScript creator Brendan Eich, has come under fire for automatically redirecting URLs typed into the browser's address bar to a version of the URL it profits from.

    Brave is trying to carve out a new business model by offering users the choice of viewing ads in exchange for Brave's cryptocurrency, the Basic Attention Token (BAT).

    The practice is a betrayal of trust for Brave users and potentially its affiliates too, which arguably shouldn't be paying Brave for visitors who type the affiliate's URL directly into the browser's address bar.

    Eich, Brave's CEO, apologized for the redirects and offered an explanation for the behavior, claiming it was a "mistake".

    Users who don't want URLs to the crypto sites to be automatically converted to ones that profit Brave can disable the feature 'Show Brave-suggested sites in autocomplete suggestions'. A future update will switch the setting off by default.
     
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    Always enjoy the mea culpas in these types of situations.

    "Oops, our bad guys. Didn't mean to get caught. Won't happen again... pinky swear!"

    [​IMG]
     
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    Uninstall current Google play services apk and install 20.15 from APK Mirror which doesn't have COVID-19 exposure APIs. I don't know which Android phone you're using. Since you're on Wifi it auto downloads everything once anything is uninstalled!

    EDIT: Thanks Aivxtla. I really forgot to type APK Mirror. It seems I'm eating words since lockdown started.
     
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    Android Police's "APK Mirror" site is what I used to use for alternate APKs/versions, its a reliable/reputable site if you want an alternate/older google services app.
     
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    I use edge. every 2 months or so I get a gas card for my Jeep. I sync everything with edge on my laptop, iphone, ipad and my samsung tablet. I use 365 for my "everything" and it all syncs across all my devices perfectly.
     
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    I hate Edge after using Edge Chromium. You're still using Edge based Chakra JS engine?
     
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    I like Firefox, but they keep making the extensions no longer work after updates. I mainly use Opera on my notebook. If I could find a way to turn off tooltips, I'd probably switch top Opera for all my machines.
     
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    In Settings > Browser, in the User Interface section clear the box labeled "Enable the search pop-up when selecting text". No need for a "feature request", it already exists.
    I hate DuckDuckGo, it never finds anything. With Google search, I found what I want from the first search result but with the Duck I have to go to the next pages and fish around [​IMG] to find it. Let Google spy on me all they want, I'll never use anything else. [​IMG]
     
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    Sooo, how about that new Firefox for Android?

    I am quite pissed about it, aside from the performance issues, the terrible tab organizer and the addon incompatibility, it doesn't even load websites! Just sits there with the progress bar in the middle... I have to use Chrome now.

    Firefox was quite literally perfect on Android, for me. Now it's a pile of ****. I can't believe they spent time and money on this
     
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    I never EVER liked Firefox on Android. Its bookmarks UI is horrible. Then add to that the horrible UI and bloatware they keep adding on the desktop version, that's one of the main reasons I switched to Chrome. Better synchronization with my phone in terms of bookmarks/passwords and a night and day better UI on Android [​IMG]
     
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    Firefox is still working just fine for me, just had to move the search back to the top and all is normal again...
     
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    Firefox is the best for me. I have to use Chrome for work and it is atrocious; even limited functionality aside, don't understand how can anyone like it.

    However, Mozilla destroyed Firefox for Android, and I can't find an alternative so far. Hopefully they won't ruin the desktop version at least.
     
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    No. New edge.
     
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    I started using Brave on my phone several months ago and have gotten used to it on my phone. I don't know anything about the button or whatever that stuff is that you can earn. I just ignore it.
    Shortly after we got our new laptop, I installed it on there and have been using it ever since.
    Yesterday, I installed Firefox on the computer and phone. But, what little I've used it, I don't really like it. Maybe it's because I'm used to using Brave. I also tried DuckDuckGo on the phone. I don't like it, either. Just too minimal.

    I might try Pale Moon for a day or two and maybe Sea Monkey. I don't know anything about them, but I like the names. :>)

    I do use DuckDuckGo as my search engine.
     
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    Chrome 88 will prevent Ad blockers from working, but Vivaldi and Brave will resist winaero.com | Dec 11, 2020

    Chrome 88 will come with Manifest V3 support for the Declarative Net Request API and other changes proposed as part of it. It clarifies API and feature changes in the Chromium project that also bring a number of restrictions for extensions. The most affected extensions are ad blockers, that will stop working properly. One of them, uBlock Origin, is already known for being incompatible with Manifest V3.

    Google noted that they will keep the current Manifect V2 available for some time, and didn't define its removal date yet. Anyway, it is an unpleasant change for those who rely on ad blockers.

    So, after uncertain period of time, this will end up making Chrome more secure, but some of the popular extensions will stop working. What about other browsers?

    Firefox is not going to adopt the change for now. There is no plan to implement this restriction in the Firefox browser as of now.

    Edge already allows testing the Manifest V3 feature, so it will follow Google with this move.

    Vivaldi and Brave, two Chromium based browsers, won't enable Manifest V3 as long as they can. However, I doubt that this will last for long. It will require extra cost for them to keep the Chromium code base unlinked from the mainstream.

    Chrome 88 will hit the stable branch in January 2021. By that time, Google will accept extensions compatible with Manifest V3 in its Web store
     
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    They screwed up Firefox again. It was causing CPU temperature spikes on both my desktop and laptop. I decided to give Edge Chromium a shot, and so far it has been darn impressive. It's fast, handles 60 fps YouTube gracefully, and I've not noticed any issues with extensions. This is the first time I've used a Microsoft web browser for more than 3 consecutive days since Internet Explorer 5.0. It's also, ironically enough, the best web browser that I've used on macOS. It's only slightly more power hungry than Safari but faster with fewer compatibility issues with extensions like Dashlane and Adguard.
     
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    Firefox is good enough for me. Only pet peeve is the touchpad scrolling isn't as smooth as other browsers.
     
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    So, what does someone use that wants nothing to do with Google and Chromium based browsers?
     
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    I use most of those but firefox mostly for the plugins/add ons, looking at the net without adblockers etc is a total mess. Palemoon and waterfox too. Vivaldi makes it a pain to not keep history/cookies but it's zippy as hell.
     
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    Chromium itself is not bad. You could use something like Brave that is based on it but doesn't include any of Google's nonsense.
     
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    I am looking to stay away from anything Google...including their Chromium project used by other browsers.
     
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    Edit: Scratch that, even Maxthon uses Chromium now.

    Edit 2: There's Avant Browser which gives you the choice of Trident (IE), Gecko (Mozilla), or Blink (Chromium) for your rendering engine.
     
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    Maybe look on Opera Browser. As well Vivaldi. I haven't used Opera the last decade, but it should be fast enough and secure. You haven't many options anymore if you want to avoid anything that smells Chromium. Then you have Firefox.
     
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