Best Internet Security

I was looking for a nice IS. Can anyone recommend me one which goes well with Win 7 Ultimate 32 bit?

Thanks

 

ESET Smart Security 4

 

Agreed. +1 to Eset Smart Security.

 

Norton IS 2010.

 

Common Sense 2010.

 

+1. Oftentimes, you can find NIS2010 highly discounted (particularly at Fry's) after rebate. I haven't bought it yet (using NIS2010, upgraded from my NIS2009 license), but I've seen a 3-license pack at Fry's for $20 after rebates.

I'm having difficulty finding this on store shelves. My friends won't sell secondhand copies to me for a reasonable price either. Any suggestions?

 

not sure about the best but Eset Smart Security is a good choice

 

Psh, Windows Firewall + Microsoft Security Essentials.

 

Plus common sense and I +1 this.

 

You can't beat free. Plus this combo provides essentially everything the big boys offer. So save the money and buy yourself a steak dinner to pat yourself on the back.

 

Kaspersky Internet Security has worked great for me.

 

To those guys suggesting to use Common Sense 2010(which was very funny BTW.), maybe he sometimes goes to sites which are out of common sense.

Try Bullguard IS.

 

Yep, that's what I've been using on Windows 7 x64; it works great. Why pay when you can get a good solution like this for free...

 

Avira security suite for me.

Great antivirus, great firewall with sufficient details and not spammy, rest are a bonus

 

These so-called "Internet Security" packages are a complete and utter waste of money. But, to each his own, I guess. Might as well buy one of those "memory optimizers" while you're at it...

 

This.

+1.

 

Sadly not all pcs meet the minimum requirements to run Common Sense 2010

 

I know!

you gotta have 1GB of RAM and at least 140 MB of free space. And you gotta :GASP: be running at least XP SP2!!!!!

Oh the Humanity!!!!!

Edit:

I should of said at the end: "Great Justice!!!"

 

+1

easy, fast, free, good enough for the whole world, so it is for you, too.


oh, and, common sense is awesome

(now don't tell me, surfasb!! )

 

pc's do...

users, on the other hand...

 

using KIS 2010

and a fw + av is by far not the same as a security suite.
To make files undedectable against av´s isnt "that hard".. but also make it undedected against the "heuristic analyse" or the "proactive security" is much much harder.

I had 2 files already which i uploaded on virustotal. only one av was saying something (but only smth like suspicios.. so no real warning). but KIS told me its a keylogger/trojaner/stealer. so i tried it on a vmware with wireshark and found out, that when starting the .exe , some file is getting uploaded to some ftp. Got the ftp login with wireshark and found alot of accounts which were stolen with that program.

Also a security suite always watches & locks important files/registry entrys.. like msn,outlook,thunderbird,IE,...

So in my opinion you cannot compare an av & a fw with a whole suite.
Also not every av works out with every fw

I hear alot of pro´s about microsoft essential. Is it a simple av or does it more?

btw: Kaspersky Internet Security (2009 or 2010).. bought another 1 year license today

 

Thats what i meant just didnt want to use "pcs" cause it would be too obvious then

 

A proper router/network encryption?

Otherwise I agree with Common Sense 2010 and MSE+Windows Firewall

 

An up to date OS, a browser with minimal security problems, no browsing pr0n web sites, and a armed trunk monkey to keep an eye on guest users of your machine.

In particular, keep flash and acrobat up to date. For PDF reading, move to Foxit or Sumatra and only keep Acrobat in place for those odd/weird documents that refuse to open with anything else.

A combination of windows firewall and MSE will fail to detect/clean 8 in 10 malware infections. Other products are in a similar position.

A false sense of security by blindly trusting 'technology' is worse than no security at all.

 

yeah. marketing as well says you have to use cillit bang as all others can't clean, and such..

where did you got the files from? we talked in this thread about something called common sense..

just as any antivirus. and actually, even UAC locks the important files

anyone using something else than the windows firewall eat a big placebo. and any av has to work with the windows firewall or it's customer based dropped down to the ultraparanoids

it's a security software. the only reason others than avs do exist is because someone at some marketing found out, if you sell "security software including av" then it sounds like more than "just av" => more people buy it.

there's nothing beyond av that makes any sense. as anything that is needed, should be handled by an av (scanning, finding, deleting suspicious files, at realtime, before they do something bad).

so their marketing departement earned what they deserve for their good job at fooling you and you lost money, congrats. like spyware. stealware


btw, having heuristics and all that is not an ADDED FEATURE. it's an IMPLEMENTATION DETAIL on how an av might work.


get over marketing, learn common sense, and start understanding..

 

Yet expecting a user to spend hours learning the basic mechanics of computing so they can make decisions on the same level and consequence of an experienced user is retarded.

I'm all for smarter computing. But I'm more for better design. Today's security software is poorly designed. Too many notifications, too many decisions, too many options. Basic design tenants will tell you, while a more complex interface increases functionality, it also decreases usability. You spend more time learning the interface rather than using the interface.

Oh, if I only ruled the world.

 

KIS really screwed up my system performance so I had to remove it. I have installed ESET Smart security for now. Let see if I will decide to get it.

 

Which one is the best out of NIS2010, KIS2010 and ESET? Detection rates, user friendliness and light on system resources are my top priorities.
Thanks.

 

If you want to pay for an AV/IS Solution, definitely go for Norton Internet Security 2010.

However, if you like free, Windows Firewall + Microsoft Security Essentials will do just fine when combined with smart surfing.

On XP I'd maybe get a 3rd party firewall, as it sucks. But Vista and 7's firewalls are much more up to the task.

 

i think it have been some cracks.. but i tested it with some random infected files already too (but that was ages ago).

virustotal doesnt dedect anything.. but as soon as i start it KIS dedects it with the heuristic analyse and the proactive security. (or what ever it is... the AV only doesnt dedect it.. as virustotal includes the kaspersky av and 20 other av´s)
And i dont trust the windows firewall at all
backdoors which u can download in every "hacker" forum for free have the ability to bypass the windows firewall.

Btw i have UAC disabled, and also i dont only talk about windows registrys and files. KIS watches msn,icq,thunderbird,outlook,filezilla,totalcommander,ie,.... and what ever u want to add. (Not only KIS.. NIS and comodo do the same i think).

So i rly prefer a internet security suite instatt of just an av + fw. But maybe i will sell my KIS key again as i heard that KIS should slow the system alot.. as i always used KIS i cannot rly tell :x

 

just read some random test in some random magazine i got here at work, and KIS failed completely slow, complicated to use, crappy results in the end.

hehe

MSE + default os settings for me.

 

kis 2010 is complicated?

u just have to install it and everything will be done automatically. programs u start will be checked via the kaspersky security network and if they are secure KIS will automatically set them as trustfull. U dont need to do anything

But ye i heard about alot of slow downs.. can u maybe copy me the article? :x

oh and btw: KIS is one of the securest one in every test i read before. dedects 99%-100% of malware tested and also can remove them.

So i realy disagree in all points except: slow downs.. but there i´m not sure as i have never used smth else.

@edit: Atm KIS has some bugs. they made an update for win7 which now slow downs alot of stuff. But thats only right now and needs some days to get fixed.

 

well, install and never touch it doesn't mean it's not complicated. changing the config might be hard for the normal user, and such stuff. the ui might be rather cluttered (i never used kis, as it's completely crapware anyways in my eyes, like any such suite), unorganized.

well, haven't found the test online yet, and it's in german anyways. they complained in detail about the firewall being needlessly complicated. and the scan quality with bots and trojaners is only acceptable. missed some stuff. the major stuff, it didn't miss, but wasn't able to remove it always.

but for me, they're mostly all just bloatware anyways..

 

As soon as I move to Windows 7 (once the school term is over), I will move to MSE + Win7 Firewall exclusively.

I've got my girlfriend's mom's desktop running MSE + Vista and it's working great. It's even simple enough for her to use.

 

daveperm im from austria so german is np
i agree that it is complicated to run it as advanced (so u will get asked about everything). but this mode is for advanced user.. so ppl should know what they do. if u do know, its not complicated

from the tests i read it was always top3 about dedecting & removing :x

 

interestingly, since i've moved to win7 + mse, i actually get some vire-activity showing up. it all cought the stuff.

now i'm just curious where that comes from suddenly

 

yeah, it's not my statement (never used it), but onlinepc.ch's. but (quite ironic for it's name), it's not online it lies beside me. it's a "Probe Exemplar"

 

+1 Best IS I have ever used. I have been exposed to numerous other applications through my work and this product has always came out on top.

 

You're so painfully clueless it's quite endearing.

As for Windows Firewall + MSE, I'd rather not trust computer security to a company that thinks training users to click accept is a great practice.

ESS for me.

 

So your preference is based on ideology and not on clinical performance.

Makes a lot of sense.

 

i think he knows pretty much but i dont share his opinion about win firewall either (have never tried MES so i cannot comment on this).

What is ESS? (Eset smart security?)
tried it a year ago, ed my system :x has it become better now? U think u can compare it with KIS2010 and tell me pro´s and con´s ? Right now KIS is pretty bugged for me on win7 so i´m thinking about a change.

 

If by ideology you mean consistently scoring well in AV comparatives testing, and outperforming Microsoft in this regard, then yes.

 

uhm.. yep

(to each his own)

i trust the company that delivers the os to me to know in most detail how really security fails in their system.
and i trust the company that delivers my os that they do it because it's important for them to have their os secure, unlike random companies, that just do it mainly for the money/ads selling. is security of an OS of another company their main goal? or is it, just staying on business? from the behavior I've seen from different av companies, it's the second.



and your hint against UAC is just stupid. but you know that. then again, you don't care

 

eset av seems not to be so good:

http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stories/test/ondret/avc_report23.pdf

 

what's wrong with the windows firewall? it has "windows" written in it's name. enough reason to think it sucks. then again, so does your OS.

there is no firewall that is as clean and simple integrated in the OS as the one from the OS vendor, obviously. no firewall that is always there when needed (even DURING boot). and it's the same firewall that is used by win 2008 / win 2008r2 servers that are connected DIRECTLY to the Internet. and if it's good enough for that (and it really is), then how can i dare to say it's not good enough for me? especially, as I'm behind a router anyways.

so stuff i don't allow to start from my system can never get into my system without first having to compromise my router anyways.

and then, it should have to get trough UAC to be able to affect my system, not just my user profile.

fun thing is, both windows firewall and UAC never use up active resources really. and still give out of the box security that just was never there before in windows. together with MSE, and some clue while surfing the web, they work very well.


and yes, one could lock the own system down even more, and put up honey nets and all the crap if one wanted to. i never said it's the best security model, the one i use (while i believe that it's underrated by most of you). but it's good enough for normal usage. the rest is just paranoia.

 

well, i prefer to just, uhm, look around and see how often the normal user messes up his system. i, by today, still have to help, fix, clean, what ever tons of xp machines.
i so far did not have to clean up 1 vista machine. none has gotten virii, or other infections during the last years. and not all of those are users that know how to act well in the web. and none of them needed any special AV software solutions (before MSE, i mostly used avast, now only MSE).

so i don't care about awesome testings that don't matter in the real world. i just look at the real world.

 

i dont say windows firewall is not doing is job.. and also i belive it takes less ressources. but the fact is that 90% use the windows firewall. and every free backdoor/password-stealer already bypass the windows firewall out of the box.. or atleast killing it.

about uac: i have never used it, dont even rly know what it does.
mes: never used it, cannot comment about it.

I think the KIS firewall also runs during the boot.. same for the rest of the Kaspersky suit components.

I once had the opinion that everything with "windows" in it must be . but win7 has improved alot, wmp seems to to be much better (altough i dont use wmp or the media center). and also mse seems to be pretty good in all the tests. but most ppl use this software and when u make a backdoor u always go first for the software which is used the most.

I also think KIS firewall has more features (like u can disable only incoming connections or only tcp or what ever for each program.. u can even say which ip´s the program isnt allowed to connect to). but i dont need them anyway

 

well, learn what uac is about (consider it a firewall between the user part of the system and the system part, you being the gate that has to allow some app to switch).

yeah, the fact that it's a main target is an issue.. but router + firewall works actually very well (since vista. can't stand xp's "security", fails within days of being online).

yeah, other firewalls run during boot, too. but the windows firewall is actually part of the network stack. no network up, no firewall. network up, firewall up, too. always, no chance.

kaspersky, i laugh at that crap. ask detlev (which still loves it).

and i have seen, on xp, systems fail with all sort of Internet Security Suites installed. from the norton, symantec, kaspersky, etc. since vista, i see actual in-use systems that DON'T.
the only change? vista firewall + uac.

hm.. should tell something.

 

i´m not afraid from incoming connection (so attacks frm outside.. as i have a router) but software which u run on your system and opens a connection outside.. so some guy who can control your system then threw a backdoor.. or to a ftp where all your logins will be sent.

what in your opinion is so bad about kaspersky?
from all the tests i read, KIS2010 was always top3 (in firewall dedecting,av dedecting and removing).

 

it costs
it's slowing systems down
it has shown to have quite some false positives
it does much more than it should (typical paranoia-feeding and money making out of it)

it's one of the better of those products, non-the-less. but i've seen compromised systems with kaspersky on. no active av solution is fool proof.

passive systems (like firewalls, like UAC) are rather fool proof. they have a defined function, and work at that 100%. doesn't mean they secure you 100%, that's something different, though. MSE is an active system, too. thus not fool proof. but it's free, and made from the company who has the highest interest to not get attacked.


don't take my kaspersky statement too serious. i just saw detlev using it, and how much issues he had with his os just because of it. initialy, it was always the os' fault. till we step by step could trigger it down to be kaspersky which slowed down his system, made sporadic longtime cpu peaks, etc.