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    CCleaner has become crap!

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jan 6, 2015.

  1. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    After the latest issue with CCleaner 5, and I know it has always corrupted my search index, I stopped using it and created my own batch file to clean the following folders. I don't trust anything that comes from Priform anymore!

    I don't trust any utility any more to tinker with my system files or registry

    Some problems to be wary of:

    Event ID 80

    CCleaner 5.01.0575 corrupted my SSD 01/01/2015

    All my files are now corrupted...

    sxs event id 78

    Windows Event Viewer Error 78
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    Temp Files Cleanup:

    • Cleans up the Temp folder in the C:\Windows\Temp
    • Cleans up the C:\Users\yourusername\Temp
    • Cleans up the Software Distribution folder where all the Windows updates are downloaded, but after they are installed, Windows doesn't delete them and they are no longer needed. Only run the file after you have rebooted if you installed Windows updates


    To create the batch file, simply open a notepad, then paste the below text, then name it " Temp Files Cleanup.bat"

    DEL /S /F /Q "%temp%\*" 1>nul 2>nul
    DEL /S /F /Q %systemroot%\temp\* 1>nul 2>nul
    DEL /S /F /Q %systemroot%\SoftwareDistribution\Download\* 1>nul 2>nul
    for /f %%i in ('"dir /s /b /ad "%temp%"" 2^>nul') do RD /S /Q %%i 1>nul 2>nul
    for /f %%i in ('"dir /s /b /ad %windir%\temp" 2^>nul') do RD /S /Q %%i 1>nul 2>nul
    for /f %%i in ('"dir /s /b /ad %windir%\SoftwareDistribution\Download" 2^>nul') do RD /S /Q %%i 1>nul 2>nul


    ===========================================

    System Files Cleanup:

    Cleans up all the above mentioned folder in addition to some extras like the system logs, .NET Framework temp files, etc.
    To create the batch file, simply open a notepad, then paste the below text, then name it " System Cleanup.bat"

    @echo off
    title .
    color 1F
    openfiles >nul 2>&1
    if %errorlevel% NEQ 0 goto :UACPrompt
    goto :gotAdmin
    :UACPrompt
    echo Set UAC = CreateObject^("Shell.Application"^) > "%temp%\getadmin.vbs"
    echo UAC.ShellExecute "%~fs0", "", "", "runas", 1 >> "%temp%\getadmin.vbs"
    "%temp%\getadmin.vbs"
    del "%temp%\getadmin.vbs"
    exit /b
    :gotAdmin
    DEL /S /F /Q "%temp%\*" 1>nul 2>nul
    DEL /S /F /Q %systemroot%\temp\* 1>nul 2>nul
    DEL /S /F /Q %systemroot%\inf\*.log 1>nul 2>nul
    DEL /S /F /Q %systemroot%\Logs\CBS\* 1>nul 2>nul
    DEL /S /F /Q %systemroot%\Logs\DPX\* 1>nul 2>nul
    DEL /S /F /Q %systemroot%\Logs\DISM\* 1>nul 2>nul
    DEL /S /F /Q %systemroot%\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\*.log 1>nul 2>nul
    DEL /S /F /Q %systemroot%\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\*.log 1>nul 2>nul
    if exist %systemroot%\SysWOW64\cmd.exe DEL /S /F /Q %systemroot%\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v2.0.50727\*.log 1>nul 2>nul
    if exist %systemroot%\SysWOW64\cmd.exe DEL /S /F /Q %systemroot%\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\*.log 1>nul 2>nul
    DEL /S /F /Q %systemroot%\SoftwareDistribution\Download\* 1>nul 2>nul
    RD /S /Q "%LocalAppData%\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue" 1>nul 2>nul
    for /f %%i in ('"dir /s /b /ad "%temp%"" 2^>nul') do RD /S /Q %%i 1>nul 2>nul
    for /f %%i in ('"dir /s /b /ad %windir%\SoftwareDistribution\Download" 2^>nul') do RD /S /Q %%i 1>nul 2>nul
    for /f %%i in ('"dir /s /b /ad %windir%\temp" 2^>nul') do RD /S /Q %%i 1>nul 2>nul


    ====================================
    I've also uploaded the files if you wanna download them:

    Temp Files Cleanup.bat

    System Files Cleanup.bat
     
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  2. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    Unless you belong to the forum you can not see the pic's. Not joining them just to see them.
     
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  3. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    no need for the pics bro, just read the topic / content, scary stuff especially about how one reported it corrupted his SSD to a point where his system became FUBAR
     
  4. StormJumper

    StormJumper Notebook Virtuoso

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    Odd I have SSD drive and don't have any problem using CCleaner 5.
     
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  5. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    I didn't have a problem either about the SSDs, my issue was the Event ID 80 error and corrupted index. but those threads are scary and one needs to be aware of them

    PS: check your event log ;)
     
  6. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    it appears a few users are having a bug issue that is fixable with a roll back. Only the one with the client file corruption. Being as it is a one off error one of those hijacking virus types seems more likely. While I can not see the pic's the corrupt SSD seemed more of a free space bug than file corruption.

    Bugs happen, this is a fact of life. it now si just to see how quickly they can be resolved. But again the loss of all files is scary, reason to back up those files often to an outside drive.
     
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  7. RCB

    RCB Notebook Deity

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    Thanks for the batch files, Ferris.

    Everyone should be careful when running a registry cleaner and NOT do so indiscriminately. I have "12" .NET v1.0.3705 entries that I always exclude because doing so screws things up and they also come back after a reboot.

    I do get the latest side by side error but it hasn't broken anything for me. This issue also doesn't seem to be high risk and will probably be fixed in the next release.

    It is a wonder that they don't have more problems, considering they support all OS's and browsers going back to XP.
     
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    NP Man. I just run the System Cleanup batch file once after I install Windows + all updates. From then on, all I run is Temp Files Cleanup every night, takes a second to finish. that's all I need to clean up really. Anything else is really overkill and not needed for the risk it may or may not have on a perfectly working freshly installed system.

    As to CCleaner, I have experienced enough bugs to use or recommend it after I've recommended it for ages and used it as it ws the number one, ad-free / bug-free cleaner.

    If anyone is not having issues, then great, I just had to post this to make others wary if/in-case they run into any weird issues especially that I check the Event Viewer Log regularly for any abnormal errors and that's how I started to dig in more to the issues of CCleaner.

    Unfortunately, ever since their downgrade to v5 with its fugly UI, it's gone down hill. First with the issue where they enabled the PRO feature for free (system monitor would run continuously in the taskbar despite not having had enabled it in the settings) and now to more serious issues like the ones above.
     
  9. ajkula66

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    IDK...

    When it comes to freeware such as CC Cleaner, I tend to use old versions as long as they are supported. Just checked and the one that I have on this machine is 3.24...:eek:

    Given this thread and the recent one regarding ImgBurn, I don't foresee that habit of mine changing anytime soon.

    My $0.02 only...
     
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    Are your cleaner files just for Windows 7, or are they ok for 8.x?
     
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  11. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    Both, the location of the temp files / temporarily downloaded Windows updates files don't change from Windows 7 to Windows 8 ;)
     
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  12. StormJumper

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    That part I don't like about CCleaner is that it UI looks very much like a Window 8 Metro UI....
     
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    then you should set your DPI scaling to 125% like I do then take a look at it! you'll hate it even more, it doesn't play well with DPI scaling and looks like utter garbage with washed out icons
     
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    Try Glary Utilities instead.
     
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    Doesn't cause any problems like corrup the search index or weird event viewer errors like cccleaner?
     
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    None that I've noticed. Then again I usually do a system image or system restore point before I do any serious system cleaning.
     
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    I figure that it would look worse then it is now as you said. So I just kept it as is on my current settings. It would be nice if they kept the old interface I like that look better.
     
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    I've never trusted CC cleaner. A number of those "legacy" or older-surviving freeware programs turned to garbage rather quickly. I still use an old version of Registry Mechanic because it just works, with no bloat.
     
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    It's not "legacy", it's been updated regularly to support the latest OS with regular patches and updates. It's not like a five year old program that's never been touched. Just because you pay doesn't mean it's better. An old payed version of a software can be just as problematic as a free one if not moreso. Not sure why you wouldn't update to the latest version because there are differences in how Windows handles apps and services from XP to 7 to 8.1 that you might get better/safer results.
     
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    Don't use any Registry Cleaning programs. Period.

    In fact I use one - Uninstall Tool, but I see what it wants to delete and I approve it each time. I saw when it tried to delete more than needed just once (Intel's strings in registry) but that wouldn't harm anyways I suppose.
     
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    totally agree. Even the best registry cleaner can break stuff. I have a license for Revo Uninstaller Pro and Total Uninstall (these are just uninstallers) and only clean specific registry items related to the program I uninstall. Even then, I go through the reg entries being deleted to make sure everything is actually related to that program and not Windows.

    Registry Cleaners are pure snake oil and cleaning the registry will not make your pc faster, will only corrupt it
     
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    I had a issue with CCleaner doing popups telling me an update is present when in loaded at startup, I ceased that, as to registry cleaner I use registry recycler paid version-$2, its never gave me an issue. My download was from Digital River.

    Registry Recycler - Free Registry Cleaner to Safely Fix PC Errors

    Cheers
    3Fees :)
     
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    I upgraded CCleaner on one of my rigs and wow, I'm not liking version 5. The UI is fine imo, but having it run in the background by default, no thanks. To me, CCleaner was created in part to clean temp files, but also as a nice centralized way to disable unwanted startup entries and such. Now, it feels like it behaves as some of those unwanted things that don't need to run in the background but insist to for some reason.

    I wouldn't say it's crap now, but v4.x was better
     
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    I don't think there's much to the registry cleaner that can break anything. It's a standard way that things are checked. There's also a backup (recommended) for the entries that will be removed. This way if anything actually breaks then just merge them back. Windows 7 from my experience has a lot less registry garbage after a reimage than XP. Also, the first time it is used on an unfamiliar machine or if a first time user then only remove 1/3 of the bad entries at a time and backup those entries first.

    CCleaner also lets you right click on individual group items to clean independently and even go in and just delete particular items that it found.

    I'm not big on the GUI either, or with the new monitoring stuff but hey, they are just trying to add value to get people to buy the full version... their prerogative.

    Still a solid tool...

    Tijo, you can easily disable all that startup monitoring stuff within a couple checkboxes.

    :biggrin:
     
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  25. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Was a little inattentive for a moment with ccleaner then it was mess with my overclocking. Used a cleanup software earlier (can not remember the name) it would only defragment ssd drive not use trim function. It was a well-known software but unfortunately I do not remember the name. Had to use the software manually to stop this. I do not like such program ..