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    Complete memory dump/Kernel memory dump/Small memory dump/none

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Profy_X, Aug 17, 2011.

  1. Profy_X

    Profy_X Notebook Consultant

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    Hello!I started this thread so every each of you could give his opinion about this subject,which one do you use,how it influence your system performance & responsiveness or why do you use it?
     
  2. coolguy

    coolguy Notebook Prophet

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    Why would memory dump influence system performance?

    I use it do read the occasional BSOD's from Windows debugging tools.
     
  3. chimpanzee

    chimpanzee Notebook Virtuoso

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    it doesn't affect day to day operation but does take longer time in the case of BSOD before one can restart(as it needs to dump out a few GB of things). Of course, we can always interrupt that by hard reset.

    I set it to NONE as I don't need the dump(not interested to interpret it as a laptop user nor wanting to open a ticket with microsoft to have them look at that which cost money).
     
  4. woofer00

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    small dump on a day to day basis, kernel or complete if windbg isn't giving me the answers I want.
     
  5. Profy_X

    Profy_X Notebook Consultant

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    it can speed up windows startup i've already tried the difference between complete memory dump and small memory dump 64kb ;) by the way does someone please explain me the real roll of this option beside reading BSOD errors report? :confused:
     
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    The bigger the dump, the more data. The more data, the more debugging.
     
  7. Profy_X

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    So normally if I don't have any issues and don't use debugging mode I can set it to none? :confused:
     
  8. chimpanzee

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    if you don't want to interpret that(I doubt windbg comes with a standard Windows Installation) and don't want to send them over to Microsoft, I see no point of collecting it.

    I only have that setting on for company servers where we do send them over to Microsoft(and why I know it cost money).
     
  9. Profy_X

    Profy_X Notebook Consultant

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    Yes for a home pc it's more easy to search the error code from the BSOD on the internet but how I never have any issues or BSOD on my VAIO since I bought it after so much time I think it's not whort it :p.Planning to set it to none.. :D
     
  10. woofer00

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    No, WinDBG is not part of the standard install. I have it just in case, so that I can properly read the error logs rather than limit my view to whatever the event viewer deigns to show me.

    The reported BSODs in the event viewer are sometimes enough to do a diagnosis over the internet, sometimes not. Anytime you go to a forum to get assistance with a BSOD and they ask you for a minidump because the error code is too vague, chances are it's getting fed into WinDBG to narrow down on a solution rather than checking every piece of hardware.
     
  11. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    if you agree on "improve windows", they actually upload and process those dumps, and send you windows updates with bugfixes for free. i've got about 3 drivers fixed thanks to it.
     
  12. chimpanzee

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    I chose 'no' for that option on my notebooks. And on the server, we want specific fix if such thing happens(and why we paid).
     
  13. Profy_X

    Profy_X Notebook Consultant

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    Drivers can be fix otherwise no need for a'n update from microsoft for that you can easily do it from device manager you get the same thing trust me i think that for those who don't have any BSOD issues is a useless option and I think for me i don't get any benefit from it if all this time i didn't have problems whit my notebook :cool:
     
  14. Profy_X

    Profy_X Notebook Consultant

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    those of you who uses small memory dump or none am i right that the startup is more quick then with the other options? :p
     
  15. chimpanzee

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    seldom reboot so can't tell :)
     
  16. Hungry Man

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    How does one even configure this option?
     
  17. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    what do you gain from this? it's free help and support. part of the deal of paying for the license btw.

    stupid. and then moan if something doesn't work, but denying free help.
     
  18. JOSEA

    JOSEA NONE

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  19. chimpanzee

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    1. I see no point of sending GB of thing when that doesn't immediately give me the answer.

    2. I can get free help and support via standard windows update which is more than enough for me.

    3. I haven't moaned for 20+ years because I know what I need and I know how to solve my problem.

    save the s* word to yourself.
     
  20. woofer00

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    If immediate gratification with no hope of a future fix is all you want, by all means, turn it off. It only hurts all other users in the long rung, thought. A windows update never happens without data to support it, so not submitting just because there's no instafix is pretty short-sighted
     
  21. chimpanzee

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    should we start to discuss barak obama or East Africa Femine too ?
     
  22. woofer00

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    If you'd like, but that would be pretty off-topic.
     
  23. olyteddy

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    Hey chimp! WTH is a 'Femine'?
     
  24. chimpanzee

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    Have to excuse a primate's English, famine.
     
  25. chimpanzee

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    It was pretty off-topic initially but became on topic due to some questions being asked.
     
  26. ScuderiaConchiglia

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    The memory dump option should have ZERO effect on system startup EXCEPT after a BSOD. The dump is only taken after the error.

    Gary
     
  27. coolguy

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    Edit : Posted in wrong thread (deleted).