Core 2 Duo users... IE7 vs Firefox

I'm a firefox user. I decide to run a few pages in both FF and IE7... I notice pages load the same. Sometimes IE7 is a bit quicker...

again... this is on CORE 2 DUO

 

Are you asking question or just informing us?

 

I didn't notice any question marks...

 

Opera>Firefox>IE

Firefox is becoming a glutton in terms of memory usage, often 2x or more ram usage then opera even with the tweaks to reduce resource usage. Opera is a good amount faster, and with cool tricks like mouse motion back and forward and the little futures like quick dial that make it #1.

 

With Firefox, you can really get some nice features with all those extensions.

 

it is not glutton, it is feature - Firefox loads loaded pages into memory for faster access.

Today every decent machine has spare RAM at any time.

RAM usage != Resource hog

 

FireFox is not a memory hog. See this post for more about that.

 

You can check out this page if you want your firefox to load pages faster. I'm not a core 2 duo user (yet) but my firefox is much faster than my IE because of that little trick in that page.

 

The memory and CPU may affect the speed of loading pages. But there are other variables, such as network speed or server handling of different pages that are being sent through to the client browser. There are some pages that may take ages to load on IE but faster on Firefox and vice versa.

 

Ah see but I have a 10 MB Dedicated connection and t3 access so pages load up instantly for me, no need for a cache. Besides I have my firefox set to empty cache and delete all temporary files after I close it.

 

firefox > microsoft bloatware. Seriously, if there was something like firefix for OSes, it's get it in a heart beat. Compatibility, speed, and most importantly USER SELECTABLE features. Seriously, do I need all that active X bs or MSN garbage on my computer?

 

I followed the tweaks relating to "about:config" and I saw Firefox using less memory. It was not an issue at all with me to begin with but it has shown a difference. I have not really used Internet Explorer since I learned about Firefox.

 

K-Meleon FTW

 

I use firefox specifically because it will delete all my cache/history everytime I close the browser without me having to hit a button.......Opera is nice and quite innovative

Only use IE to run windows update, not sure why just habit I guess

 

Well, la-de-da

So do I.

 

There is an extension in Firefox that does that. It's called Speed Dial.

 

So? First, no matter how fast your connection is, it doesn't affect:
- Latency (it'll still take a while for the signal to hunt across the globe)
- Server speed (far from all servers can deliver data at 10mbit/s)

So pages still won't load instantly. Far from it.
As for the cache? Well duh. The cache you've disabled is the harddrive cache. It stores no temporary files on the harddrive. But what we're discussing here is memory consumption, which means in-memory cache. And you haven't disabled that (I don't believe you can).

So, when was the last time Firefox's memory consumption actually posed a problem for you? Have you run out of memory because of it?

And another extension to add mouse gestures...

 

Yeah pages do load up instantly for me with max more connections set up. No need to get defensive, I wasn't trying to show off my connection speed just saying why I think opera is better. I did not say firefox was a glutton, I said becoming a glutton compared to opera. My point being was firefox usually takes at least 2x more ram then opera and often more then 2x. And jalf yes you can disable the cache or minimize the amount to basically nil.

Point being if you had a choice between 2 programs that work equally well and one took twice the ram which would you use? Its my opinion honestly, I didn't say firefox sucks or anything and still think its a great browser. For my case opera is better and just like it more.

 

I would use the program that provided me with the user interface and usability I preferred, regardless of RAM consumption.

Quite honestly, I have worked professionally in computing since the mid 1970's and have never really understood the obsession with resource consumption. I mean, as long as the resource, whatever it may be (CPU, RAM, DASD, Network, ...), is not being constrained and becoming a bottleneck in some way, what difference does it make? We used to call that Capacity Planning, and usually designed, bought, and implemented, for the peak hour of the peak day. Nowadays, with capacity on demand capabilities, it is possible to implement the peak capacity more dynamically and capacity plan to a lower threshold.

Like I used to ask my clients: So, what are you planning on doing with that extra resource? Save it for later? Computing resources are very time-dependent. If they are not available at the moment needed it is called a constraint, or bottleneck; if they are there and are not used in that moment, the opportunity to use that resource has passed and can never be reclaimed.

 

I use Opera sometimes, too. It's a very good browser. But I still prefer Firefox.

 

I tried Opera exclusively for a little over a month a few months back to see how I liked it and went back to FireFox as well. To each his/her own; it is good to have choices still.

 

Honestly are we talking 10 min difference here? Both work fine IMHO....ITS A BROWSER!

 

I'm not getting defensive, I just pointed out that the specific points you criticised about Firefox are actually pretty much irrelevant and/or wrong.

There are plenty of reasons to prefer Opera (if it wasn't for Firefox's extensions, I'd use Opera too. The base browser is better imo)
And yes, Opera definitely seems faster overall to me.
Just sucks I don't want to go without Firefox's extensions.

Where?
As far as I know, all you can disable is the harddrive cache.

 

I believe it is still done this way, even in Firefox V2.

 

i would go for the firefox =D

 

For the sake of not arguing I concede.

I guess I forgot to mention I am new pc gamer converted from console gaming though I do own a console. I bought a gaming laptop cause I needed a laptop for college and wanted to play the new rts games.

My only other comp was a Piece of *@&# desktop that is like 7 years old where memory usage is a huge constraint. I guess since my c90 is in for repair and I am stucking using the desktop till then which works better with opera for the reasons I stated, I need all the resources i can get because playing music and browsing the web slows down this comp alot.

But I guess I see what you men about the resource usage, though my point was I like opera better, to each his own. I see what you guys mean but I am still right.

 

Which is your right, and I am glad you do, because if everyone liked the same thing we all would have fewer choices.

 

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I switched to Opera after using firefox for years. its standard features are way nicer and it just seems like a much more thought out and smooth browser.

also I dont like firefox because they are soooooooooooooooooooooo deep in bed with google its not even funny.

 

Here's another vote for Opera. Its quick and had a ton of use featues.. simple stuff like "paste and go"

I have been using IE a bit more since I've gotten Vista