David Pogue rips Wn8 a new one...

See here. For better or worse, Pogues is one of the most widely read commentators. He calls Win8 the turd that it is. Congratulations, Microsoft.

And he charitably even leaves out that stillborn child that is Windos 8 RT...

 

It should be noted as well that he tends to lets just say...be "favorable" toward OS X. Just saying. Every reviewer on both sides has their biases, some overly for 8, others overly against.

It'll be up to users to see for themselves.

 

Since when has the New York Times been a reputable source of tech news?

This entire piece seems to be written in the "Scared old man" genre. Everything that's different is scary. New things make me mad!

 

Read the article. Loved it, responded to it.

Quix, its not just me who think Windows 8 is malignant; read your fellow NBR brethren's view of the new O$.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...-alienware-notebooks-arrival-windows-8-a.html

 

You will also find NBR members that like and others that don't mind it. It has people polarized on both sides, that how i would describe the current situation.

Also, just because the guys isn't a tech reviewer doesn't mean that his view counts for nothing, i have yet to see how the average Joe/Jane reacts to Windows 8 overall.

 

That's very true. Usually we don't hear from those who love it, we only hear all sorts of hell from the ones that don't.

 

i love it.

 

Some part i like, some i don't and some i just plain don't mind. To semi-quote Arstechnica, as long as you don't try to use metro (or whatever it's called now) and the desktop together, it works pretty well on each side, but if you try to mix using both, things can get ugly at times.

 

Average joe probably don't know how to upgrade to windows 8, or more importantly, they don't care. There are NUMEROUS people still running on xp/vista and some running 7 want to go back to xp...

 

Really? I haven't met anyone who liked XP more than 7. It's not like 7 lost any important features or functionality from XP.

 

I guess I stick too much with old people that only use computer for office+news+DVD, the concept of UAC, aero glass, gadget/sidebar, grouping all the taskicon together, TABS etc brother them.

Those UI feature and UAC is changeable within win7, but any normal adult/person do not know how to. I have yet to see one person put their taskbar back to XP style. (small taskbar, icon with text, group when fill) , and if that is too extreme, I have yet to see someone change anything with the default taskbar.

 

So far I am seeing zero benefit from it. I installed it using a separate SSD, so I can go immediately back to Win 7 if I need to. I just don't feel very productive. The Start8 app is great, but it's $5 for every machine I put it on. And if I do that, then what's the point? It's really just Windows 7. I don't see any real improvements in speed or games so far. Ok, for tablets, I get it. I really do, but for PC's with keyboard, mouse. Forget it. MS, just give us the Start Menu and eliminate most of the backlash you're going to get because it's gone.

 

It boot and resume from hibernate faster, aren't that enough !!?

 

Mine doesn't boot faster and I don't waste 16GB of SSD space for hibernate. Sleep is faster.

 

And overall it performs quite faster than Windows 7.

 

What does that even mean?

Probably a lot of this so-called "performs faster" crap is because it's a clean install of the OS. Win 7 would feel quite snappy as well with a clean install. Install all your tens to hundreds of GB's of crap and Win 8 I'm sure won't fare as well. I'm working on doing that right now. Show me a test opening a dozen different apps in Win 7 and Win 8 and if there's any difference, and I'm not talking a few seconds.

I already had a general windows exception BSOD in Win 8...

 

Could be that the case. A 250Gb old install of Windows 7 with 180Gb crap on it and a freshly installed Windows 8 on 50Gb partition. Dunno you may be right. Anyway gonna install Win8 again soon, since I got it for free .

 

I agree with the notion that most basic users never change anything in the UI or UAC because they are not knowledgeable enough to do so. Most people won't customize their desktop unless they really want to, so I can see Microsoft wanting to give them a better user experience by overlaying windows with what they think is a zippy user interface.

I can only imagine Stardock praying that Microsoft keeps the metro interface. Stardock is probably making a thief's fortune with Start8.

 

When a windows 8 clean install on the same SSD boots faster and feels snappier than the windows 7 clean Install that was performed like a month before, i'd say that qualifies as faster.

 

The nicest thing I've seen about Win8 on a desktop with a mouse and keyboard is that the user experience isn't bad, it's just not good. To me, that's unacceptable.

 

Moved to Windows 8: The Thread.

 

David Pogue is well-known for being an Apple fanboy of sorts. Not exactly the most impartial judge.

I've done that. When you tend to have lots of programs open, I think XP's style/Windows Classic is actually preferable to Win7's Aero grouping with only icons and small preview windows. The text makes it easy to known which instance you want to click on, and if you have 8 Notepads open, it's a lot easier to have a list of them than 8 preview windows that you probably can't distinguish at a glance. The Aero Basic theme can also be an improvement over Full-Fledged Aero in that workflow.

I go back and forth between Aero and Windows Classic at work. Sometimes I set it to Windows Classic and set Bliss.bmp as my background and fool people into thinking I have XP.

But I'm not an average user, either.

I like XP at least as well as 7 (which I use at work). I like 7's Jump Lists, that Paint defaults to .png, and the ubiquitous search bars are nice (though the Start menu search is usually slower than just navigating to the program), but in general, I don't find a ton to like in 7. Whereas XP just works with all my programs, is lightweight, I know where everything is, the Start menu isn't confined to a tiny space, and I already have it (no $$$ required). I'd probably be OK with 7 on my desktop, as long as UAC was completely, 100% off, but why spend money on it when I know I'm happy with XP?

I don't know how OT this post was, but I'd advocating allowing more than one Windows 8 thread. As an occasional visitor, I'm not going to read more than a page or two back in that gigantic thread.

 

It was just my personal experience from using Windows 8. To me, it feels a lot like 7 but with a layer on top (the moder ui). You've got the classic desktop environment, and the new Start screen. Having the Windows key to quickyl switch between the two is great. The new Task Manager is awesome as well as file transfers. Its little things but I like the new versions over the old.

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I also do this for the same reason you describe.

 

I'm still up in the air. I think there's pros and cons to Windows 8, but I still don't think I'd use it as my everyday OS.