Defrag software W/W10 like Disk Optimize for W7?

I sat down and the one reason I keep coming back is the Disk Optimize and SSD realtime Trim. O&O defrag supports scheduled trim but it does seem realtime trim. If I had that option I may just stay with Windows 7 as the only other nice thing for me is the files transfer dialog but I can easily live without that.

So the real question again is there a defrag software out there that does support realtime Trim for Windows 7?

 

I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean 100% but I use O&O Defrag 18 PRO on both Windows 7 and Windows 10

 

On the main system I have all SSD's. When you select optimize it actually is supposedly just running a trim.

 

Yes in that case O&O Defrag 17/18 PRO are the only defragmenters that can do this in Windows 7.

Diskeeper can also do it but it is one expensive buggy piece of software.

PerfectDisk cannot do TRIM commands, only free space consolidation. I found it makes my system slower when I install PD so I stopped using it.

The rest, like UltraDefrag, Auslogics Disk Defrag, all cannot do this.

O&O FTW

 

But O&O does not seem to do this realtime as in my second pic.

 

You don't need to do it in realtime bro, just set it to do a scheduled daily TRIM. It's not like a fragmentation that needs to be fixed immediately or you will get less performance.

If you notice the default Windows 8/10 behavior is to run a TRIM command on weekly basis. I do it daily since what the heck it takes a second to perform.

To be honest with you, I have never really felt it made a difference....I just do it to feel happy.

I say, just ignore it

 

Control freak here, like the ability to manually hit the button. My problem is I can not ignore it, can't unsee what has been seen........

 

What I do in Windows 7 is just double click on O&O Defrag in the taskbar and when it launches I hit the Optimize All Button, it runs a TRIM command on the SSDs and a quick defrag on the HDDs.

Are you not able to do that?

 

Thanks, just woke from my Diabetic Nap. Had some fudge cookies and passed out for a while. That is after regrading back to W7 and O&O installed. Didn't know I could force Trim so now I'm a happy W7 owner. Perfect Disk just does not hold a candle right now to O&O.

I'll be honest in that I would much rather give O&O $50 for a 3 license defrag than any free W10 installations. Even with ShutUp I could not stop the telemetry on local file access.

Eventually if they fix the telemetry issues of W10 I may go back bringing O&O with me, till then......

Edit; Using the trial to do the purchase it is actually for the 3 license $29.95.

 

Wow, thanks Matrix Leader. I have been looking for something similar as well. Have a few Win 7 machines and like the ability for manual trim like this. I'm like you TANWare, I'm OCD about stuff like this. I want to click the button and have it happen immediately.

Is that option on the free edition or only on the paid one?

 

I never tried the free edition personally, I don't like anything FREE. Give me the quality! Give me the paid

I sent you a discount coupon via PM

 

It was on the trial version.

 

A lot of times software is free for personal use but paid for professional/corporate use. That being said I usually buy a product if I get quality use out of it.

I just wish there was a product that that is all it did, execute TRIM for an SSD that was portable EXE that you could do on demand and/or schedule with task scheduler. I don't need all the the fancy pants stuff.

But according to this:

http://www.oo-software.com/en/free#pro

It says "Optimizes Solid State Drives (TRIM)" is not available on Free version.

@TANWare you must be using the 30 day Pro trial not free version? Because with free version when I try free version it warns me that I should not defrag a solid state drive when I press the optimize button.

 

True, I was planning on purchasing it so did not try the free one.

 

I bought a 3 user license for 29 USD. Decent price for all the benefits it gave me so I can use it on my desktop and Alienware 18

 

For those that don't know (I didn't until I tried it), O&O Defrag 18 PRO does not support TRIM with SSD's in a RAID 0 array. It sees the drives as a conventional mechanical hard drive.

 

Yes I will email them tomorrow to add a feature to force detect the RAID Array as SSDs. Hope they can do that as I know Diskeeper can do that.

 

Support Ticket submitted to O&O Software regarding adding a feature to forcefully detect a drive as the user wants. I hope they listen.

 

Even if detected as Raid0 SSD it probably will not support TRIM. I do not think there is a consumer solution that does so. There may be enterprise controllers out there that do but not the ones we normally deal with. We probably would need to see more of a hardware dedicated solution with its own off CPU processing.

As far as $29.95 for the three license, that was the same offer here from the Trial software. I never tried the free version as I knew if trim worked it would be a purchase, even at the $49.95. To me that cost is much cheaper than worrying about W10 for even one day.

 

I hope so too. Thanks!

 

You have 2.8Gb of porn on your G: drive, but at least its optimized.

 

oh snap! Should've hidden that!

BTW, it's TB not GB bro

 

Quick question... you guys keep mentioning defragging, are you really defragging your SSD's? I thought that was unnecessary and harmful (more writes).

 

Defragging a SSD is harmful but the associated function TRIM is not.

 

We don't defrag the SSD, we optimize it AKA running a TRIM command.

O&O will automatically defragment your HDDs and optimize your SSDs

2-in-1, shampoo and conditioner

 

@TANWare @Matrix Leader , Thanks for the clarification!

 

O&O Defrag Pro v19.5.222 released, now supports TRIM on RAID volumes, just tried it on my RAID 0 2x950 PRO NVMe SSDs

https://www.oo-software.com/en/download/current/oodefragpro

 

Are any of the product features in this software package you should not use? And Is this software one of the better ones you can buy?

 

all you need to do is highlight all you disks and click the "Optimize All All" Button on the top left, it will then choose the best method for each disk, so for my NVMe SSDs it performs a TRIM Command and for my HDDs it performs a space consolidation defrag.

On Winows, the benefits are not much vs the built in defrag tool as that also performs a TRIM command on SSDs whether they were in RAID or not but on Windows 7 it is a must IMO as the Windows 7 built in defrag tool doesn't have an SSD Optimize (AKA TRIM) method.

Why do I use it, basically O&O Defrag is a set it and forget it program, works great.

 

Thanks... It is a long time since I have used Raid in any computer. So Windows built in defrag tool in win 8/10 also Performs a TRIM command on SSDs in RAID? But I will take a good look at this software. +rep
My question is whether I will still use RAID 0. The same applies also to Win 10.

 

After installing all your drivers, launch command prompt as admin and type in the following command then hit ENTER:

winsat formal

after all the tests ar done, reboot

this will force Windows 10 to recognize even RAID SSDs as an actual SSD and not HDD and thus, optimizing it instead of defragging it

 

Thank you very much. But why can't brand new Windows 10 recognize ssd put in RAID in a stock Os without tweaking?

 

In Windows 8.1 you HAD to run the winsat formal command otherwise the RAID array even if it was comprised of SSDs, would be treated as normal HDDs and there would be no optimize feature, only normal defrag until you ran the command and rebooted

In Windows 10 it does detect them as SSDs by default, but running the command after installing all drivers then rebooting is still a good idea as the OS then tweaks itself to work best with your current hardware configuration.

 

Thanks for the good explanation. I need first to create a partition of my Op. Thereafter run the Trim command... Then create a new op (same 33%) in the end.