DirectX 10 is obsolete already ...

... and apparently so is that new DirectX 10 video card you just bought:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=41577

 

I seen that coming a mile away.

 

I'm not worrying too much after reading the whole article; I'll still get a 8600GT

 

meh....I only have an 8500 GT in my desktop anyway

 

interesting news.....
but I dont see how this makes dx10 hardware obsolete
perhaps not the best use of words.. If you really do feel that way Im not sure what to tell ya

 

Wait until Vista gets established and WDDM 2 comes around. DX10 video card required for Windows Aero capable versions.

 

Just a .1 difference, no big deal...... I bet inquirer gonna write that dx11 is comin soon (even if no one announced it yet).

 

The .1 difference renders all current DX10 specifications and cards useless. It must have been a result of their poor planning.

 

You didnt read the article did you?

So there is nothing new. Just some that was optional before is compulsory now. The 4xAA I have heared about before. ATI will bring it out in one of their HD2900 models. The 32bit I think the 8800 cards already have too but I am not sure. The thing is mainstream notebook cards will be hard pressed to handle this. The must of 4xAA means we need a huge performance boost. Not sure if the hardware is up to it.

 

HArdly any gmes are DX10 right now, this is inconsequential. No-one will be making games for this for years.

 

Developing games for directx10 or directx10.1 will be no different. Like the said only optional featuers have been made compulsory. So everything that you can do with 10.1 can also be done in 10.0.

4xAA is already available for all games. DX10.1 just makes it so that the hardware has it build in and you dont lose frames by doing 4xAA. It is not like developers can not develope 4xAA, it was even possible in directx9. The 32bit floating point is not a big deal too and I think if your GPU can only do 16bit it should work too but with less accuracy.

 

however, it does mean that all the ones, like me, who looked into the future and bought a 8x00 for DX10 are very unfortunate
DX10 will simply be skipped, and developpers could jump straight to DX10.1, and 8400M, 8600M and 8700M might then not be any more usefull than a 7950 is right now

 

DX10 will not be skipped. Come on now...you think developers, who have been busting their butts to get a DX10 game out there are going to just put it down and start over? As said before...

 

That's why I always wait for things to settle down first and not try to look to far into Vista's futurebecause it will change a lot in the next couple of years . The same thing happened to me twice with Windows XP. I purchased a directX 8.1 card, then it changed to 9.0 then to 9.0c....arrrrgh.

This time around I promised myself I would wait for both Vista and the hardware to both stabilize before I made any hardware commitments.

 

I admit it, i didn't just becoz it is from Inquirer. If it is from another source, i would be happy to read it...

 

How about THG for a source?

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33181/118/

So for those planning to wait :S you can wait forever.

 

I think 4x AA is a good idea. It'll make PC games look good in relation with console games. Of course the first cards to support this come in the winter and not everyone will have one, so...

"Your graphics card does not meet the minimum requirements. Installation failed."

 

Why is it people think that the moment a new standard is announced, all existing hardware immediately becomes useless?
Please explain to me why my Geforce 6 can still run games after DX10 has been out for 6 months?

Could it be because DirectX 9 is not quite obsolete yet?

Could it be that those who bought a DX10 card now have the fastest GPU on the market, and one that support DX10 features? How is this "unfortunate"? First, luck doesn't really come into it. Second, The only way you could get DX10.1 support would have been by waiting a year. If you'd waited a year, you'd have lost DX10 support for the first year. And if you're willing to wait another 8 years, you can probably get a DX15 card. Does that mean everything bought before then is useless?
Or perhaps it simply means that you'll get 8 more years of gaming if you buy a card now.

There are no major news in DX10.1. The reason it's coming already is that Microsoft has removed the optional bits in DX10. DX9 could last 5 years or so because half the specs are optional. First there was DX9a, then 9b and finally 9c. And each of them have had almost infinite room for customization between cards. Radeon X1k cards could choose to support these features, GF7 those others, and both were DX9 cards.

With DX10, you either support all of it, or you don't support DX10. It's locked down tight.
And so, obviously, Microsoft has to release more, smaller updates than they've done with DX9. When new features become available, they can't be retrofitted onto DX10. So a new minor update is released (10.1). And you know what? Next year, when new cards come out again, there will *also* be a few new features. Just like there was this year, last year, the year before, and every year since the first GPU's were made.

It's beyond me how anyone can feel "unfortunate", or that their card is "obsolete". There's nothing new. GPU's are evolving year for year like they've always done. But instead of making extensions to DirectX optional, like in DX9, they just make minor updates that add the few extra features. The end result is the same. The features are available if your GPU supports them. Games will support whatever gives them the best market coverage. And if a game doesn't need DX10.1 features, guess what. They won't require a 10.1 card.

 

well either way they're going to find "something" to change around within 1 version of DirectX so they can profit off you guys. Otherwise there'll be no selling point and graphic card vendors will have a hard time keeping their company running. It's a good thing and a bad thing depending on how you look at it, but I think smart game vendors would make compatibility options. You might not get the latest features, but you'll still be able to play the games

 

Threads like these make me so happy I'm not into games. Oh, I play things now and then, but I'll never buy a laptop with gaming in mind - much less a desktop. Just give me good ram, good cores, good drives, and I'm ready to go.

 

Microsoft is retarded. They are always forcing standards upon the people

 

wohooo for upgrade plans... maybe ill wait to change my 7950 to ... 8900 maybe? that shud prolly be 10.1

 

I dont understand the article. Can someone tell me whats it about?

 

Yes, because if it wasn't for Microsoft, you'd definitely be able to use DX10 features on your DX9 card.....
If it wasn't for Microsoft, we magically wouldn't need to upgrade our graphics cards because... uh.... new features would never become available? Is that what you're saying?
Or do you mean, because all features would have been available from the start?

Oh, sorry, I forgot common sense and logic or a minimum level of knowledge about the subject at hand aren't really relevant when we're bashing Microsoft.
Ignore me.

*sigh*

 

Meh. The problem with the way that Microsoft does "standards" is that they design them from a business lock-in standpoint (how can we switch people to Windows and keep them there?), rather than a compatibility and technological standpoint (how do we make this as great as we can?). Which really irks me, because I'd prefer to not have my technologies designed and mandated by business people who have no clue about technology and only want me to give them as much of my money as possible.

That said, DX10 hardware isn't "obsolete", and many cards will just need a driver update to make them DX10.1 compatible, because all 10.1 really does is require a few features that used to be optional, but most cards still supported, stuff like 4xAA and such.