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    Do I really need MS .NET framework?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by ninjazed, Aug 31, 2006.

  1. ninjazed

    ninjazed Notebook Consultant

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    I asked this question on another thread but never got a definitive answer.
    My situation is this:
    #1- I hate .NET framework, it's a total resource hog

    #2- I am going to install the new Cat 6.8 drivers with CP as opposed to CCC which was the only reason I knew of to have .NET on my other computer. Previously, if you wanted the new ATI Cat's (which use CCC), you had to have .NET framework. On my desktop rig, I used 3rd party drivers on WinXP Pro which enabled me to avoid the dreaded CCC which brings me to:

    #3- I have an Asus W2JB laptop which uses Windows MCE.

    Is there anything in MCE or on this machine otherwise that requires MS .NET framework. If not, I'd like to lose this like a bad habit!

    Thanks for your help folks. BTW, before anybody flames me for not searching first, I did, and I couldn't find anything that addressed this issue specifically.
     
  2. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The only reason I have the .NET is because Notebook Hardware Control needs it in order to run. Besides that, doubt there is any other reason.
     
  3. ninjazed

    ninjazed Notebook Consultant

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    Ummm, not to sound stupid, but what is NHC? I've heard it mentioned before though. Does it have something to do with Power4Gear and other quick access buttons?
     
  4. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Nope, it make the voltage of your laptop lower, so in return, your laptop uses less power, resulting in a higher battery life, less heat, and, in wishful thinking, a longer life span for your notebook.
     
  5. lmychajluk

    lmychajluk Notebook Evangelist

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    The .Net framework is similar to the old VB Runtime files. Unless you have an application that is based on them (such as NHC, and parts of the ATI Catalyst Control Center), you don't need them. However, if you have a program that requires them, it won't run without them.
     
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    Reezin14 Crimson Mantle Commander

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    I didn't have it until I wanted to use (NHC),so I say no you don't need it.
     
  7. Qhs

    Qhs Notebook Evangelist

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    With all due respect, if the Asus you are talking about is the one in you sig, you have 2GB or RAM installed and your complaining about lag? How many processes are you running?
     
  8. Jalf

    Jalf Comrade Santa

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    I'd suggesting installing the .NET framework no matter what. A lot of programs today use it, so you might as well get it over with. But hey, installing .NET doesn't in itself slow anything down. Only programs that *use* .NET are affected (and since they won't run without it anyway, it can hardly be called a disadvantage there either)

    But as far as I know, ATI does have a "barebones" version of their drivers without the .NET control panel. At least, they used to. I don't have an ATI card, so I don't really keep up with that :p
     
  9. ninjazed

    ninjazed Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for the input folks. FYI, I never said that I had a "lag" problem. I'm just the type of person who likes to keep my system as lean as possible. Anything unnecessary will theoretically add to system overhead. So why not get rid of it? I have read many reports in many forums where everything from slower boots to decreased performance can be attributed to .NET framework. Heck, most gamers have been loathe of .NET since ATI started incorporating it in Catalyst drivers. Check the download count for Cats with CP and with CCC. CP d'loads rule mainly because they don't require .NET. I'm not the only one who doesn't like it.

    But Jalf seems to think that .NET doesn't come into play unless a program needs it. And many programs seem to be headed towards its use. I just ran Super Pi and my 2M score was 1:14 so, no, I'm not hurting in the performance department. Maybe I'll just say to hell with it and just keep it unless someone else can give me a better reason to ditch it. BTW, I also read that some apps use .NET 1.1 and some require 2.0 so it's not just a question of one or the other. Silly azz Microsoft!

    Thanks again everyone.
     
  10. Qhs

    Qhs Notebook Evangelist

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    I see what you mean. I like to keep my machine as lean as possible too :p Anyway, yes MS is becoming like bloatware. " La la la. Blah blah blah needs .NET 2.0 to work. Blah blah blah. Da da da." :D
     
  11. Jalf

    Jalf Comrade Santa

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    Only if it's running. The .NET framework is only running if a program that uses it, is running. The slower boot times people have reported is most likely due to programs *using* .NET that are launched at startup. (And yes, any app that uses .NET does take longer to start up)
     
  12. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    *cough* Catalyst Control Center *cough*