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    Does xp mode solve all compatability issues commonly cited as a need for xp os?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by sgilmore62, Aug 16, 2009.

  1. sgilmore62

    sgilmore62 uber doomer

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    I see people in forums looking for help slipstreaming drivers for latest hardware into XP os installation disks. If compatability issues are solved with compatability mode why would anyone need/want XP?

    Here is an example of a machine with some fairly recent high end direct x 10 hardware and the op wants XP, a direct x 9 OS. He is having trouble with SATA controller.
     
  2. BenUK

    BenUK Notebook Consultant

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    Well it would solve that issue in so much as you would actually be running Windows 7 which would have the SATA drivers

    What XP Mode is designed to do is support general programs and hardware that are too OLD for Vista/7 not too new

    To run XP Mode you still need very new hardware - in some circumstances newer than is needed for Vista as you need CPU Hardware virtualization to make it work
     
  3. sgilmore62

    sgilmore62 uber doomer

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    Yes, I am under the impression that XP mode will run applications/programs that were "runable" in XP operating system. The guy has recent hardware a QX9300 and BIOS supported virtualization.

    Are there legitimate compatability reasons for downgrading to XP? I suspect that most of the downgraders are under the misconception that XP is a superior OS and will run their programs/applications with greater performance.
     
  4. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    For overclockers, I believe Vista/7 vs XP will knock off something like 100 3DMarks.

    Asides to that, there are some people who have heard bad things about Vista and want to downgrade to XP without even trying the newer OS.
     
  5. BenUK

    BenUK Notebook Consultant

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    Though trying to find XP drivers for the latest hardware will become more and more difficult as time goes on.

    W7 is the tipping point. For new machines there should be no reason for home users to downgrade
     
  6. Sonicjet

    Sonicjet Notebook Evangelist

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    Also at this time only four CPU lines fully support XP mode and they are not the ones you would think....





    Athlon,Phenom II,Turon and Opteron....merry Christmas fellow Intel users....
    (Although I just built a Phenom II 955 Windows 7 machine... :))
     
  7. Ole man

    Ole man Notebook Evangelist

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    No, there are a ton of INtel processors that support Intel Virtualization Technology, which is what XP mode needs...

    Unless I'm missing something.
     
  8. BinkNR

    BinkNR Knock off all that evil

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    You are correct…
     
  9. Han Bao Quan

    Han Bao Quan The Assassin

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    Wrong!
    There are many Intel and AMD Cpus support Virtualization technology.
     
  10. Jasp

    Jasp Notebook Evangelist

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    Indeed my HDXs T9300 supports VT.
     
  11. Szadzik

    Szadzik Notebook Evangelist

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    That is so sweet, already waiting for my win7 Pro :)

    BTW, seems like we have the same machines :)
     
  12. Jasp

    Jasp Notebook Evangelist

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    Aye, picked mine up from comet when they was selling them off for £1299. Bit of a impulse purchase but im glad i did lol. Got the win 7 home premium on order for mine as i don't need the extra features pro has.

    Dout very much their will be another 20" laptop for a long time.
     
  13. Morizche

    Morizche Notebook Consultant

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    Then you can't really run xp mode, since that's only available for Professional and above.
     
  14. Jasp

    Jasp Notebook Evangelist

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    Indeed, but given its got no 3D support it really doesn't intrest me, plus if i want to run a XP application ill run it thru a virtual PC.
     
  15. Apollo13

    Apollo13 100% 16:10 Screens

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    And that brings up the situation that Win7's XP Mode does not cover - when the user wants to run a 3D program (be it a game or an professional CAD application) that does not work with _Vista or Win7. XP Mode will solve compatibility issues for 2D desktop applications, but if you want to run games that don't support _Vista/Win7, or if you want/need to run CAD programs that don't support _Vista/Win7, then XP Mode won't help you. You'll want/need to run XP natively.

    So, since at least games are fairly common compatibility issues cited as a need for XP, I would say that no, XP Mode does not solve all commonly cited compatibility issues resulting in people using XP over _Vista or Win7.

    This is actually the reason I'm using XP - compatibility with 3D programs. I don't care about a 1 FPS difference, but I do care about the difference between 60 FPS (XP) and 20 FPS (Vista/7) (which I've seen happen), or between the program running perfectly (XP) and not running at all (Vista/7). XP Mode doesn't solve these problems, as it doesn't support 3D graphics. So when I could've downloaded either Win7 or XP x64 from MSDNAA this August, I chose the latter. Sure, I can't use the DX10 on my 8600M GT, but I'd rather have the excellent gameplay of my older games that don't like _Vista/Win7 than graphics on expensive new games, anyways.

    (I did try _Vista for several months - far too long - and the Win7 Beta, so I'm not running XP just because of reading bad things about _Vista)
     
  16. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    how about getting your software updated? or the developer of your software bashed very hard for not supporting the standard os that exists now since years and will for the next future (a.k.a. anything vista based).

    ??

    and till then, obviously, continue with xp *urgh*.

    care to state which programs those are? always curious. i've heard about someone using an elder rhino version that fails on vista.
     
  17. BenUK

    BenUK Notebook Consultant

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    That's no different to when XP first came out and everyone had problems because a load of DOS based games failed or wouldn't run properly

    For instanced I never managed to get Star Trek : A Final Unity to run once I upgraded from '98 to XP. Should I have stuck with '98 because of that?