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    FF NoScript/Adblock Plus User Should Read.

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Pai, May 5, 2009.

  1. Pai

    Pai Notebook Evangelist

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    I am not sure if this is posted, but a search didn't come up with anything.

    Warning Both are long reads, especially NoScript's side of things prepare to spend sometimes, unless you are at work. :p

    Apparently, NoScript Creator tried to modify adblock's whitelist for personal gains, resulting in a conflict between the two "security" extensions.

    I always loved NoScript, I just can't believe that over the past month I thought the updates were adding functionality, but it is just screwing with my other extension. It is just completely unbelievable. I think extensions should be sandboxed or perhaps, more restricted; so one extension can't just modify another creating security holes.

    Here's the Adblock's side of story:



    NOScript's Official Public Apology and counter argument blaming Adblock plus for forcing the author to take things into his own hand...

     
  2. jackluo923

    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    You have a spelling mistake here.
     
  3. Pai

    Pai Notebook Evangelist

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    lol Thanks! :D
     
  4. HerrKaputt

    HerrKaputt Elite Notebook User

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    Not sure which side I'm with here...
     
  5. Harrelson

    Harrelson Notebook Enthusiast

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    No script is essential in the internet world of driveby downloads and trojans. Adblock isn't essential but necessary because ads are overused and end up slowing browsing.

    I use both and i cant live without either
     
  6. HerrKaputt

    HerrKaputt Elite Notebook User

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    I use flashblock instead of adblock. I don't mind having to authorize some flash content explicitly, and it's much simpler to use.
     
  7. Darth Bane

    Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith

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    i use adblock, but not noscript.
     
  8. Silas Awaketh

    Silas Awaketh Notebook Deity

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    I always knew that "FF" cannot be trusted. A 100 plugins, a 100 updates, any of which can go bad any time.
     
  9. Justwondering

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    wow, I didn't know this. Thanks for the read. And from the adblock writer, he is right, no one bother to dig into the default whitelist (I didn't). Beside, noscript is too much of a hassle and their "security" is practically pointless.
     
  10. nklive

    nklive Notebook Evangelist

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    I use only NoScript and it's brilliant. I don't use Adblock because it's not very essential and I am trying to use as less add-ons as possible. But even though all this mess, I am still going to use NoScript and I believe that he has regretted what he did (judging by his next steps, apology letter, further updates, giving detailed timeline of the events).
    It's not a bad thing to promote your donations. As a matter of fact is an attitude that all the programers should follow ( to some extent). After all they are doing it for free and if I want to have updates and support, someone has to invest money and time. Of course this attitude has its disadvantages and some programers can overuse this attitude. But in the end their choices can make the software totally crap and lose all of their supporters.
    Now Adblock is for blocking obnoxious advertisements (as a matter of fact it doesn't block anyhting until the user says so) and has many supporters and we all have to agree what NoScript did was really unfair and cunning. But Adblock is not that innocent. Adblock claims that it's up to the user to decide which ads should be blocked but everyone that I know is using preset filtersets (a list of ads that will be blocked) so in a way whoever makes these filters decide which ads the user will see and which not without any prior notice. And we shouldn't forget the part where Adblock with a specific filterset (the most popular one) tried in the end to block access or functionality to NoScript's sites (after NoScript's actions, of course). So they did something as well that wasn't meant to be done with this filterset and add-on.
    So one thing led to another and we had a small war in the forums between the programers.
    I have to say KUDOS to Adblock for putting this in public but it should have made it earlier though. Hopefully, all of this will make the programmers take choices for the best for the public and themselves.
     
  11. Baserk

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    Thanks for posting this, Pai. Much appreciated.

    AdblockPlus' Palant was right to make this public and it was pretty foolish from NoScript's Maone to think this would go unnoticed.
    A bit of a shame that both parties involved weren't able to settle their issue without 'hurting' their user-base.
    Still, both add-ons have proven their value to me and are still a keeper.
     
  12. AKAJohnDoe

    AKAJohnDoe Mime with Tourette's

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    I had both NoScript and AdblockPlus installed ... up until a few days ago when I noticed an unauthorized addition to my AdBlockPlus filter subscriptions. I deleted that unauthorized filter subscription and pondered it for a few hours ... subsequently I uninstalled NoScript. I then pondered it for another day and then uninstalled AdBlockPlus as well.

    There is nothing that these add-on extensions can provide that I cannot accomplish with native Firefox facilities.


    Simply go to Menu/Tools/Options/Content and check Load Images Automatically.

    Then, for any image you do not want to see, Right-click on it and select Block Images from ...(url). This will build the exception list of those websites from which you do not want to see images.

    Alternately, you can go the other way and uncheck Load Images Automatically and then build the exception list for those websites from which you do want to see images.

    Don't believe these methods work for Flash, though.


    Although I have found it to be more efficient to completely block the URLs via my firewall rather than simply the images via Firefox.

    In any case, I have been divesting myself of many of the Firefox add-on extensions that I have had installed, currently down to only eight.
     
  13. AKAJohnDoe

    AKAJohnDoe Mime with Tourette's

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    OK, I have cooled down some and reinstalled AdBlock Plus and FlashBlock, but not NoScript.