File Transfer on Vista: A Joke

File transfer takes too long... sometimes it fails...sometimes explorer crashes..


What is this? is this some OS or B.S? ...everyday i feel more n more to switch to XP but i say 'SP1 will come'.. Go to hell SP1...i am moving to XP/Linux forever!!!


I am writing this Post with lot of frustration so pls excuse strong language...


My External HD has been made a piece of s*** because of Vista...

I am unable to empty my internal HD ...

Some File transfer errors: An error has occured..the location doesnt exist.
If location doesnt exist then how the hell did i open External HD folder



Wow, i spilled out my anger n now i feel better


Is there any update for File transfer? This is vista's last chance before i kick it out of my laptop

 

I download in Gigabytes n i need to put all my files on External HD..but file transfer is a tidious task n takes too long or never happens...

I hope SOMEONE ELSE ALSO HAS THIS PROBLEM n comes up with a solution...

 

you really are angry but I have no idea what you problem is...

go ahead switch to Linux, when you find next to nothing runs on it you'll come back for XP, then find it been discontinued, and there is no drivers for it.

so what it takes 3 seconds longer than on XP? i AM SICK of people complaining about Vista's file transferrer and UAC etc. you don't like, fine, go buy XP. I just copied a video from my usb key to my hdd, 14.1mbps (actual)

//now I feel better too.





try updating your computer... there is also a hot fix for this but there is not much success with it.

 

i hope you have updated vista before even thinking of complaining.

 

Now frustrated is what i am ...n i have more witnesses who will tell u how much File Transfer sucks on Vista...

I have enabled automatic updates...i have ALSO gone to the extent of search forums for hotfixes...

XP SP3 is coming out so i dont think it ll be retired soon...

 

http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?automodule=downloads&showfile=83

 

While I haven't had any errors or Explorer crashes myself (with frequent moving/copying of data back and forth between the internal HDD and two external ones), I have been less than impressed with the speed.
Actual transfer speeds are similar to what I was getting in Windows 2000, but if there are a lot of files, Vista takes forever to try to calculate "remaining time", and can pretty much stall completely for several minutes before the actual transfer even begins.

If I'm not much mistaken though, I seem to recall seeing this described as a known bug, and that the issue has supposedly been fixed in SP1.

 

Flaming thread.

 

Not Flaming...i wont have personal enmity with MS..infact i love XP...
File transfer Stalls... thats the exact word..
But it happens everyday now...i cant move files larger than 100 MB..

I ll try out hotfixes n let u know..

Thanks for Fast response

 

Try SP1 RC1 it improves file transfer!

 

I have transferred 50GB/37,000 files and 35GB/73,000 files to my external HD and have not seen anything different from XP. It just works.
I can't remember ever having issues with file transfer in Vista between internal and external drives.

It is possible that your issue is not with Vista per se, but with hardware (USB port or HD) or with some system file corrupted, in which case re-install will help.

You can't be serious about Linux, I don't think. Unless you really want to fix your OS every day starting with WiFi card not having drivers yet, VideoCard not using 3D acceleration
(even with proper drivers installed); OpenOffice instead of MSoffice not working quite the way you like and so on.

 

i meant XP & Linux as dual-boot...but now i ll put vista and XP on dual boot..

worried about HD space though..my 120 GB HD has only 5 GB...not sure if XP will fit

 

I am NOT lying...maybe u are a fanboy.

Proof: http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?showtopic=225

 

A workaround (alternate method) could be use to Karen's Replicator.

http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptreplicator.asp

 

I'm not getting any problems doing file transfer... 15-25MB/s with the internal HDD/ USB stick and 2MB/s on WLAN

Have you installed SP1 yet?


http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...65-7716-47d9-b9b7-5cfdf71198cb&DisplayLang=en

 

No i havent...it ll expire in June since its Beta ....But if SP1 does improve such issues i might do it...

Thanks btw

 

Yeah the file transfer is a bit slower... But I haven't had any major problems with it other than getting shares to work correctly... (grr shares/permissions can be a pain)... Overall I like Vista. It uses more resources than I would like, but it works pretty good and has some nice features...

 

the sad thing is, those poor brits dont know any better, and i am having a hard time if the last line in that article is sarcasm or ????? i sure hope they would not feel "safer" from that. if that ever made its way to the US, i hope people are ready for a revolution.

 

haha..thanks for the link dude...

The biggest cause of disappointment is when people say 'Transfer rate is normal on vista' . I tried hotfixes someone mentioned but still ..

Vista is an amateur attempt at OS

 

Nobody said that you're lying. It's just that the problems aren't necessarily caused by Vista. Personally I've no problems moving 30gb worth of data multiple times between my computer and external HD. Yes, perhaps few seconds to a minute longer than XP, but I can definitely wait that much longer.

Anyway, Vista SP1 should solve your problems. I can confirm that it solves the lag in the beginning of file transfers.

 

You'll be able to upgrade to the real one when it will be released in 2 months

 

By the way SP1 is currently at RC stage, not beta.

 

This issue is supposed to be fixed in Vista SP1.

 

Why don't you stop complaining and get the SP1 RC1 which fixes this issue?

 

Or get Ubuntu. Heard really, really good things about it. It will transfer you files before you even think which files to transfer.

 

If i Stop complaining i ll be like u...i am not obliged to shut up ...i am a Customer not Bill Gates cousin...

 

We're asking you to install SP1 before continuing.

 

If you stopped complaining long enough to actually do something about the problem, like installing the fixes provided for this very issue, you just might have less to complain about.

Gary

P.S. There is a reason that there are Shift keys on your keyboard.

 

im a ms fanboy for the most part but i agree, the file transfer is messed up on vista. gizmodo did a sp1 report and it was only 1% better but still about 10x slower than xp.

 

Ten times slower? I really doubt that, do you have a source for that quote? I have seen no such differences at all. I am running SP1 on Vista. I have another laptop at my office with XP on it that I use for software testing. I'll try to do a real test tomorrow between the two.

Gary

 

http://gizmodo.com/337768/battlemodo-windows-vista-service-pack-1-rc1-vs-shipping-vista
4.4x slower to be exact... my bad

 

Wow that was just a 1% difference? It felt like a nice big difference to me. So either 1% is a wrong esitmate, or the part that is 1% of is huge .

 

SP1 Doesnt solve the Transfer problem much ... And i have tried ALL possible Hotfixes ..now if u have created a special Hotfix let me know ... I went through this forum: http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?automodule=downloads&showfile=83

And Other Vista forums also... i also installed the mentioned hotfix..


Now i am deleting all my Data to create space for XP

 

Maybe because it's not the final release?

Or maybe because SP1 will carry many surprises to Vista's users (or should I call them "paying beta testers"?).Like this:

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/12/dual_ec_drbg_ad.html
http://www.schneier.com/essay-198.html
http://rump2007.cr.yp.to/15-shumow.pdf

 

I have been very skeptical about the reports of how much faster XP was at file transfers, as I had not seen anything like that at all. So, I set about to do my own real world tests on my own network.

And I now call BULLOCKS on those reports.

I did my own set of tests this morning. Using my Sony PCG-XG39 running WinXP Pro (with SP2) and my Sony VGN-FZ190 running Vista Ultimate (with SP1 RC1). Both were connected to my office network through the same 100mb hub. All times are averages over three runs of each transfer. I moved files to and from a Win2003 server, a Win2000 server and even between the XP and Vista machines. On the XP - Vista xfers, I initated them from the XP machine and also from the vista machine. File transfer size: 862,242 KB

Results:

From XP to Win2000 server - average rate 36 mbps - 3:20
From Vista to Win200 server - average rate 42 mbps - 2:47

From Win2000 server to XP - average rate 56 mbps - 2:09
From Win2000 server to Vista - average rate 52 mbps - 2:19

From XP to Win2003 Server - average rate 29 mbps - 4:09
from Vista to Win2003 server - average rate 53 mbps - 2:15

from Win2003 server to XP - average rate 26 mbps - 4:42
From Win2003 Server to Vista - average rate 30 mbps - 3:59

XP Initiated From XP to Vista - average rate 47 mbps - 2:35
Vista Initiated From XP to Vista - average rate 72 mbps - 1:39

XP Initiated From Vista to XP - average rate 52 mbps - 2:16
Vista Initiated From Vista to XP - average rate 56 mbps - 2:08

In only ONE case was Vista slower at doing the file xfer. I reran that test through another three cycles to verify it with identical results.

So, in my mind and on my network this noise that Vista is 10 times, 4 times, pick your own number slower is pure crap. I have yet to see a comparison which fully spelled out the methodology of how the tests were run that show Vista to be slower. If someone can provide one, I'll attempt to duplicate (or refute) the results.

Gary

 

I just installed Directory Opus (a very powerful file manager) yesterday - for some reason I had ended up just using Explorer on Vista rather than DO, which I had been using for the last year or so on Windows 2000 (and assorted other file managers before that, like FreeCommander and Total Commander).

Directory Opus uses its own copy/move system, so no more excruciatingly slow "calculating remaining time..." messages for me during large copies/moves. It starts instantly - as Explorer ought to do as well (and as it probably will if the issue has indeed been fixed in SP1).

 

I just had to reformat my external drive, and it just so happened to happen at a time that ive been wanting to make it a 3 partition external drive, but any ways

Its a western digital 2.0 usb drive and it probably maxed out at a speed of 23 mbs/s. I was copying everything from 100 of small pictures to a couple small movies. Im not really please as usb 2.0 is supposed to be a lot higher, not to mention that my lappy only has 2.0 ports, i have no choice but to blame vista.

Edit* i have seen speeds of 40+ before, but i cant recall if it was on vista or not

 

I have two hard-disks in my notebook, one 7200 RPM (with the OS and softwares installed on it), and one 5400 RPM. I get 35MBps+ when moving files from the former to the latter (haven't copied from the latter to the former yet). I can show you print-screens to prove it.

I don't have SP1 either.

 

For me internal is about 18MB/s and to my desktop (Vista X64 too, but no updates after may 07, I'll install SP1 tonigh) it's 2.2MB/s . Was 1.5 on SP1 beta and 1.1 on standard

 

I've never exactly been entirely satisfied with the speed of my two external WD My Book disks.
Typical transfer rates are around 20-25 MB/s (both on my Vista laptop and on my old Windows 2000 desktop), with the benchmark in HD Tune reporting a max of 28.8 and 27.7 average (in my experience it rarely hit that unless I'm copying/moving fairly large files).

The theoretical max transfer rate of USB 2.0 is 480 Mbps or 60 MB/s - and the WD My Book disks are 7200 rpm drives.

As a comparison, my internal 5400 rpm Hitachi hits 51 MB/s max and averages at 35.5 MB/s according to HD Tune - and I seem to recall the two intertal 7200 rpm Maxtor disks in my desktop PC regularly reaching speeds of over 60 MB/s when copying/moving from one to the other.

This is not a Vista issue, some external harddrives are just slower than they really ought to be on paper for some reason. I've seen this issue mentioned about the WD My Book disks in reviews as well (just as I've obviously experienced it myself).

 

GTK, i thought it was a problem with vista and not the drive, it suks transferring a couple hundred mp3's @ around 18mbs/s tho, but its all i can do

Anyone think its legitimate to install an OS to a drive with speeds average 20mbs?