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Nope....

I'll use office 14 on my laptop/desktop instead of in a browser. I'll bring a portable version on a flashdrive if I want to use on other computers.

 

No. I really dislike web apps I use to produce "stuff" with. I will use textedit or notepad long before I'll ever use a web app to write anything.

[my emphasis:]

To much Office on his brain?

 

too much of headache..
but then this would really make life simple for those with faster internet connection..

i like..but then i wouldnt use..

 

I hate web2 cloud stuff. I like my apps and my data in my hands. Why some think otherwise except for making money, I can't ever understand.

 

You use hotmail or gmail, don't you? Those are services in the clouds too. Imagine not having access to e-mails wherever you are and having use your local e-mail client. The same idea gave us Google Docs, so this is a natural progression. With web apps, having to build standalone client apps that only work on limited platforms is a thing of the past.

 

I'm not a fan web apps at all.

 

Stand alone client apps will always be more powerful than web apps. Web apps are great for text editing, simple formatting and changing font sizes. You want to insert excel charts or embed a spreadsheet? How about inserting powerpoint slides?

Web apps are a niche product. For the rest of us, locally stored Office is the way to go. I'm still looking for a program that will go toe to toe with Outlook myself. You would think of all the apps that could easily be turned into a webapp, THAT would be the program.

 

I use hotmail locally. I use gmail and yes it's on the cloud. then again, mails are a cloud-thing anyways, I have no use to have them locally as I use them similar to chat, to communicate with others. But own data, I want to have it locally, not need to trust and rely on some foreign company that only wants to make money. I can just as well sell my soul to the mafia.


edit: I have no big problems publishing data that is for others on the cloud. Mails, Posts on forii, data for others, etc. But I do prefer to actually release that data on own full access places, a.k.a. own servers.

I don't like having my data spread on google, facebook, soundcloud, live stuff, etc and some sync-places and such. I have no gain doing so, but I lose much: I lose the control.

 

Not a curious move considering Apple is doing that with iWork, too.

Such web apps are useful for editing on the go, quickly. But in speed, feature-filness and user interface, they can't be beat by the proper package.

 

You can have fullfeatured apps on the go as well. E.g. bringing a laptop or turn the app into a portable one.

 

a fullfeatured app is one that fullfills the rules of gui development, and uses the default components of the os. none of the webapps are even close to that. none.

i do another thing similar ot webapps. clickonce deployed rich .net applications (small ones, fitting the purpose, not big ones that have too much features). they are startable by clicking a link on a webpage. they can be locally installed and then do auto-updates. they are full apps and still as flexible and ease to use as webapps.

I use them successfully since years and they work great. customers love them. (now i mostly give them a home-server for small companies so they get backup, too, install an sql database on it, and deploy my apps from that server. again, just a click )

 

Yes, and unless you have already uploaded the document you intend to do a quick edit to, you're bringing that document with you, so the portable apps or a laptop will give you everything you need and want.

 

another thing: my apps (full word 2007 and similar) are, when on keyboard, less than a second away on vista. i want to see any word replacement online to be as quick if you need to write something... (yep, app launches on ssd's are awesome )

 

I'm not a fan of Web apps unless they're an applet, such as Flash or Java. I'd much rather have Office on my own computer and then a lite version online for basic editing and viewing.

 

Or you can just get a phone with Microsoft Office Mobile and do your editing like that.

The web based stuff only works in situations of dire need.

 

I will not post or edit confidential file by using software running from the web and I am perfectly happy with Office 2002. No need to upgrade.

Besides, I paid hundred of dollars for my Office Suite and I will not shell out another load of money just for the sake of getting the latest software.

 

this is the good news for every one who don't have the priviledges to download the software's they can see the online olympics in the computer .

i do not use it before this . but its a good news that this is the Microsoft product.

 

Now Office Live Workspace is a great idea. I like the idea of being able to work with the same document no matter what machine I am at. I like the idea of other people being able to update the document at the same time. I can't tell you how many times I would have to stall my train of thought because I have to await on a final version of a co-worker's work.

 

Personally, the only web apps I like are the webmail stuff. I'd rather have Office on my Hard Disk than online.

 

and this has no need to be done with anything in the cloud, out of your control. all you need is a common storage place. this can be a webserver, an own server, what ever. can be done with some funky webdav thing like sharepoint, or simply with a file server. or something like tortoise-svn plus visualsvnserver, or what ever (for versioning).

i like the ide of working on the same document no matter where: at home, this is done by auto-synching with the windows home server and back to all machines. at work, this is done by sharepoint.

i don't liike the ability to update a document with more than one person at the same time. that would just result in chaos. that's what databases are for.

 

Well, the thing is, there IS demand for these web apps and not everyone in the world hosts their own server or know what is SVN or similar file versioning tools. Web apps provide convenience.

 

no, they support laziness. and they support "make the user pay".

it's always fun how people think installing an app is difficult. but then they can register and all on all those webapps. as if it would be less difficult. one is next-next-next, the other one is name, surname, mail, then check the mail, activate..

users are lazy. but at this very point, where we go more and more into the cloud, they use ownership. of their data, of their applications, of anything they have pc's for.

if you like to lose everything and give it into hands of a foreign company that you can't on if they don't care about you (AND THEY DON'T) when you need help, then have fun. i don't like to lose any of that. i don't like to lose my music to them, my photos, my private documents. my (digital) life. nor do i like to lose my apps to them, my (digital) now.

for anyone thinking that's not an issue, come over to switzerland and try to watch music videos on youtube. you'll notice that 90% of them are blocked, as switzerland is not us or eu => they just forgot that we could legally watch the videos, so we can't.

i don't want such things happening on my data, on my apps.

edit: btw, nice sign you have

 

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See, I would love to have the ability for multiple people editing a single document. Sharepoint already allows this and it is a blast.

 

there's a missconception: i ment multiple in the same (f.e. word-) file at the same time. now that'll be a chaos

but yes, the other way, it works great.

so to handle this "on the web" you only need "sharepoint on the web". interestingly, live office provides this since long time. or else, you have the option to set up a small sharepoint server for your team, to not have it open for everyone. but still on the web, of course.

for all that, webapps are not needed.

i just wasn't sure what you exactly ment by multiple persons at one document

 

I think we are thinking the same thing. multiple people editing the same document at the same time. That would rule. Especially when it comes to those friggin powerpoints. That way I don't have to reformat every slide that people contribute.

 

no it wouldn't rule. at least i don't think it would. it would just end in a bloody chaotic mess.

that's why programmers have versionings and checkouts and work on individual parts. because else they mess up

 

I'm not a programmer. Our documents don't depend on 1000 dependencies.

 

well, a word document depends on what was written the page before?! and if someone writes stuff on the page before, how can you write text depending on it? _while_ someone else writes and changes it?

no, thanks. i don't want to see the structure of a powerpoint where each page was made by someone else at the same time. it would have NO structure

 

Yeah, no such thing as mutally exclusive sections in Word documents.

The powerpoint result you talk about right now is what I go through atm. People will turn in slides and I gotta reformat them to fit the rest of the presentation. Wouldn't it be nice if you could just SEE what the rest of the presentation looked like and format your slides accordingly, without one person acting like a friggin secretary.

 

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