Flash 10.1 Beta Released

Link to downloads (Win, Mac, Linux)

 

Any ideas if these are 64 or 32bit executables?

 

They are 32-bit.

 

Netbooked uploaded a video on the DM1:

<width='560' height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/sojaqngZsxY&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/sojaqngZsxY&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width='560' height="340"></embed></object>

I agree, on my 3810t with an SU9400, cpu usage with Youtube HD is really LOW! Not even going above 50% in IE8. No stutter or lag when opening another program or moving around the window, all is good.

 

So is this the one with hardware acceleration? , I had a netbook with an Nvidia ION 9400m and it stuttered really bad on hd youtube video`s, and the word was the new flashplayer supposed in 2010 supported hardware acceleration or something.

EDIT : it looks like 10.1 does support gpu acceleration , it will be interesting to see if netbook owners can play fullhd youtube video without stuttering.

 

Not likely - at least not for most netbook owners. According to the Readme, it seems that neither the GMA950 or the GMA500 are supported.

 

So this only works with newer Nvidia hardware or does it also work on ATI Radeon HD or Intel GMA 4500mhd?
Could not really find any documentation on it.

 

I'm am so sick of them not releasing a 64-bit flash for Windows.. Adobe alone is almost entirely responsible for holding back the usage of 64-bit browsers, all because they won't release it. I want my Minefield dammit!

 

100% agree, Msg to Adobe: In the technology world those that don't advance are left behind.

 

Source website.

http://www.liliputing.com/2009/11/adobe-flash-player-10-1-beta-with-gpu-acceleration-arrives.html

Supported graphics cards:

ATI

* Radeon HD 4xxx and higher
* Mobility Radeon HD 4xxx and higher
* Radeon HD 3xxx and higher integrated/motherboard
* FirePro V3750, V5700, V7750, V8700, V8750 and later

Broadcom

* BCM70012 video decoding chipset (used in Broadcom Crystal HD Enhanced Video Accelerator)

Intel

* Intel 4 Series Chipset family starting with graphics driver version 15.16.2.1986

NVIDIA (Mobile)

* ION and ION LE
* GeForce GTX 280M/260M
* GeForce GTS 260M/160M/150M
* GeForce GT 240M/230M/130M
* GeForce G210M/G110M/G105M/G102M
* GeForce 9800M GTX/GT/GTS/GS
* GeForce 9700M GTS/GT
* GeForce 9650M GS
* GeForce 9600M GT/GS
* GeForce 9500M GS/G
* GeForce 9400M G
* GeForce 9300M GS/G
* GeForce 9200M GS
* GeForce 9100M G
* GeForce 8800M GTS
* GeForce 8700M GT
* GeForce 8600M GT/GS
* GeForce 8400M GTGS

NVIDIA (Desktop)

* GeForce GTX 260/275/280/285/295
* GeForce GTS 150/240/250
* GeForce GT 120/130/220/230/240
* GeForce 205/210
* GeForce G100
* GeForce 9800 GX2/GTX/GTX+/GT
* GeForce 9600 GSO/GT
* GeForce 9500GT
* GeForce 9400GT
* GeForce 8800 GTS 512/GT/GS
* GeForce 8600 GTS/GT
* GeForce 8500 GT
* GeForce 8400 GS
* GeForce 9400 mGPU
* GeForce 9300 mGPU
* GeForce 8300 mGPU
* GeForce 8200 mGPU
* GeForce 8100 mGPU

Note that you may need to download the latest drivers or firmware updates for your graphics hardware in order for Flash Player 10.1 beta to work properly.

For release notes click link below , pdf format.

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/releasenotes.pdf

 

Of course it won't run on the still popular GMA 950 or X3100, so people with relatively new laptops (like me) are stuck running YouTube in SD only to ensure it actually idk...BUFFERS and PLAYS video!!!! (even then I experience a judder i'f I for some reason have to replay the video after the first time) Gee, what a concept! All the while with 85% + CPU Usage, and temps that jump up at least 10 degrees C. if not more, causing the computer to go "OMG...Throttle!" Gee thanks Adobe!

I'll be hoping that at least the X3100 gets added in the final version, not including this chipset is ridiculous...Integrated graphics are the most popular form of laptop graphics, I've read...-Intel's more than anyone's.

 

I'm going to guess that the problem is that hardware acceleration for the H.264 codec isn't supported in the hardware and/or drivers, so I think that's probably the reason that the GMA950 and x3100 are not included.

 

HD Youtube works ALOT better now on my 4500. Like it works so well that I can watch it without stuttering methinks! Gonna fully load this Dark Knight 1080p clip and ill let you guys know

 

Is there anyway we can get frame rates, like before and after, does anything work with flash video, fraps does not seem compatible.

 

Ugh. Of course! What's the best way to cook crow again?

Yet another reason for me to kick myself for not getting the Quadro card, even if it meant I'd have to send the machine in for a replacement card eventually...the benefits of stuff like this, would far outweigh the decline in battery life.

 

booboo, I have a very similar setup to yours. Latitude D630, x3100 graphics, t7500, 2 GB RAM, Vista 64-bit (but with 32-bit browser and Flash). With a little messing around I'm able to get VERY near-perfect playback of YouTube HD and other HD flash videos on the latest released version of Flash. (I haven't tried the 10.1 beta yet.)

The main thing I did is: set the browser process priority to realtime. On my system, this is a significant improvement over using the normal priority. To do this, open Task Manager > Processes tab > Show processes from all users > Approve UAC prompt > right-click the browser process > Set Priority > Realtime. Then close Task Manager (even that eats cpu).

Also, close any extraneous browser windows, and also close any other programs you're running that might start using the cpu. You may also want to download the latest graphics driver from intel.com if you haven't already... it's probably newer than the one on Dell's site.

I think it may still miss a couple frames occasionally, I'm not sure, but it's seriously close now so it looks much better to me than the standard def. I can hear the fans but for shorter movies it's not so bad. My CPU cores run about 50% each... so I think you'll be ok even with your slightly weaker CPU.

EDIT: I forgot to do this before, but also set your power plan to high performance. With all this I can still sometimes see a very slight unsmoothness in a few camera pans, but it's quite subtle... much more subtle than the jerkiness I was getting before doing any of the stuff I've described.

EDIT 2: My CPU usage during playback is slightly lower in IE than in FF/Chrome... so I guess maybe IE is the way to go.

 

Yeah, playing them back is fine once they start (I've even played the 1080p test video with surprisingly good results.-slight judder occasionally like you said.
But playing them back while the player buffers (eg: red line moves across screen) is nigh impossible. I'll hit play, get a second of video then it'll stop and show the spinning wheel. The maddening thing is that once this happens the red line moves glacially slow (if at all) across the screen. A similar thing where the line will buffer ahead of the video and it'll play fine but to a point the line stops moving and won't restart. I have a "Youtube Autobuffer" plugin for FF, and set the machine to High Performance and that helps somewhat but waiting to watch videos is annoying, esp. when I see other people use it with no problem.

I checked coincidentally a few days ago for all my Intel drivers with their driver checker and it's up to date, and yeah, i removed the Dell Intel driver in order to enable getting ones straight from Intel a long time ago, Dell's version is ancient.

I'll give your idea a try, I would like to think it might be more of a "overloaded school network" issue than my computer, but I've occasionally had trouble at home too, and like i mentioned earlier other people-friends and people who have used youtube on school machines-haven't had this issue. I might be posting in the owners thread about a heat issue that might be causing the throttling too.

Thanks and +1 for taking the time to report your findings, this is why I like this forum so much!

 

@booboo12 you have a dual core cpu so you should still be able to play flash HD videos with out much issue.

I never had an issue with flash HD on my Vaio TT with the SU9300 cpu and the intel gpu. I just played some HD video after installing the new 10.1 beta I don't see too much of an improvement. CPU usage was at 65%-80% depending on site and video, but now its a bit lower at like 73% average.

 

Has anyone tried this on an Ion based netbook. That HP 311 mini looks very nice at this point.

 

Definitely a connection issue. I don't get that problem at all... it has to do with your connection speed, and how consistent it is.

Are you using wireless? It may work better over a wired connection.

If you want to reduce the judder, try the stuff I suggested... but if you want to watch without waiting for it to buffer first, then you'll just have to upgrade your connection.

Yep, no problem.

 

I've been wondering with all this talk about the GPU acceleration for videos:

For those of us with strong CPUs, does this impact us in any way? My specs are in my sig, but I'm just wondering how this will affect me. It seems to me that my CPU is a lot more powerful than my GPU, so why would I want to have my GPU help when watching videos if my CPU is already capable? (I understand how it will help netbooks, etc., but I'm just talking in terms of the more powerful notebooks).

Thanks

 

based on my install (atom Z530, GMA 500, Windows 7) i can confirm that flash 10.1 does work with the GMA 500 and greatly improves streaming HD flash.

I can watch youtube and hulu HD videos very smoothly!

download it!

it works, although there are a few glitches, but it's a beta, so it'll only get better!

i'll be uploading some video of it working on youtube later.

cheers!

 

video of my z530 / GMA 500 running Flash 10.1 Beta

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_z27bDd6cY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju_s0VlbyKw

 

The GPU can do decoding far more efficiently than the CPU, so this should help the computer use less power and generate less heat when watching video -- which should help battery life and reduce fan noise while video is playing.

 

Excellent

Thank You!

 

For Intel users:

I found this in the Flash 10.1 release notes:

To determine if you have the Intel 4 Series Chipset,
1. Right-click on Desktop -> Personalize -> Display Settings. It should say “Generic PnP Monitor on
Mobile Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset”.
2. If you click on Advanced Settings under Display settings, it should bring up an Intel-specific window where the chip Type mentions “Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family”.​

I just checked this on my GM965 Express / x3100 -based Dell Latitude D630 system... and it's NOT a 4 series.

 

I tested it and it works pretty good to reduce/eliminate judder. and yeah, I'm on a wired connection which is what is so odd.

Trying the 1080p "new" HD test video on youtube ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUM1284TqFc&fmt=37) in "large windowed mode"-the first gray button above the video description sidebar-proved fruitless when the browser was not set to "realtime", but that was to be expected. I did try it in "realtime" and the judders, while noticible, were definetly soemthing i could stand.

CPU Temp for this was between 87-95 degrees C. with browser set to "realtime" and all of your advice followed.

Even w/out setting the browser to realtime, this video loaded fairly quickly.

 

Yeah, we have the 3 series-Intel talked a lot of smack when it came out, how it could do so much for integrated graphics, yet it doesn't handle this...shame.

 

I'm thinking this beta is not playing nice with my current geforce drivers (186.81, 8600GT, Win7 -32).

After installing I've already had a blue screen, a complete lockup while trying to run the windows experience index tool, and just moments ago my screen freaked out but the driver recovered.

 

Hi there,

I have a GMA500 too and I couldn't get it to work on Windows 7 with driver version 8.14.10.2015 ( http://forums.adobe.com/thread/526017). Which driver version are you running? Was it a manufacturer-specific one, or the generic one from Windows Update? I use a Sony provided one, mainly because I believe the generic driver doesn't correctly support the Vaio P's unusual screen res. (1600x768).

 

Though I'm pleased with the reduced CPU usage on my system, it is ironic to note that rather than reducing the resource consumption of Flash Player Adobe is seeking other ways to work on the program.

 

and the whole technology industry and all its consumers are just waiting to have that finally happen to adobe. so far, they didn't die.. and they will continue to not die..

 

Patters,

I'm running the latest GMA 500 driver version straight from the Intel Website:

Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 500
Production Version 7.14.10.1006
08/11/2009

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3001&DwnldID=17995&lang=eng

Hope that helps.

 

Hmm, not strictly a Windows 7 driver. Thanks though. I'll backup my machine then give it a try...

 

Except for those who have a defacto monopoly because of all the legacy material encoded in their format. Adobe has no incentive to advance to 64 bit as long as they hold the ONLY player that can play the millions of files that ONLY their player can show.

Gary

 

I tried playing the silly CPU intensive Zynga Flash games on Facebook with a 9600GT and 10.1, and they were unplayable. Had to go back to 10.

 

Cant wait to test out the hardware acceleration - hopefully it works

 

I'm think that I'm going to wait for it to get out of beta mode before trying this out.

 

installed earlier this week...ever since friday i haven't been able to view videos from youtube or any other video streaming site

 

can anybody play this smooth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvuvgV3w33o

 

After installing this, my performance has actually decreased. I encountered a few errors, but you can't hold that against them. I reverted back to 10.

 

Plays perfectly for me.

 

Looks fantastic and plays smoothly on my Vaio on Chrome with flash 10.1 beta.

 

Plays smoothly for me with the latest stable release.

Though with >60% CPU usage.