Force Speedstep Maxed?

I know this is an unsual request, but is there any program for Windows 7 x64 that can FORCE the speedstep part of intel's mobile processors to MAX when plugged in?

I want it 2ghz, all the time, constantly when plugged in, and only want to cycle when it's on battery, i tried setting "Minimum 100% maximum 100%" in windows power settings, but it won't do it, it's STILL fluxuating.

SpeedSwitchXP doesn't work under Win7, i tried

 

If you've got a newer processor with turbo boost or c2d equivalent, it will run at 100% stock speed or sometimes automatically overclock (eg p8600 2.4->2.53ghz).

Otherwise, if you have a power management/undervolting program installed (eg rmclock) you will have to set that within that program.

What is your CPU?

 

nevermind, i just reloaded to XP-64 on the thing anyway, it seems to stay at max speed most the time anyway on it's own, plus i can use SpeedSwitchXP if i want.

 

any reason you want that? it will save power, heat and noise not doing it.

 

You can configure RMClock to always run on max multiplier when plugged in.

 

typical cpu's produced today will last at least 20 years when run within specs and not overclocked, and i'll for sure replace this laptop by about 10 years from now, so as long as it lasts that long, it's A-OK by me.

I want it like that because i want everything, youtube, games, programs, everything to go as fast as possible when plugged in on AC power, and slowish on battery, IMHO the way laptops SHOULD be.

Anyway, something inside of XP is making it run full 2000 Mhz all the time, so i'll just stay on it.

I just replaced my Dell C540 that i bought new in 1998 with this XPS a few months ago, and most of the time it sat on my desk online 24-7 with the fans @ 50% forced, 10 years, fans still work cpu still works. no reason this XPS should be any different.

 

placebo. your system will process everything at full speed if needed, and just clocks down when there's no need to be at full speed.

you don't always run if you don't need to, not? you walk, most of the day. the moments you have to hurry, you run.

my systems are all 100% silent most of the day, but deliver full performance as needed, in a matter of MILLISECONDS.

we're not in 1998 anymore. systems should be BETTER today, not the same. (and they are)

oh, and, a laptop nowadays has the same performance on battery like on psu. namely the full power. but only when needed.

 

Turn off SpeedStep in the BIOS. It's the only way to be sure.

 

The default profile should down clock only if the CPU is not in use. As soon as a program requests to use the CPU it is clocked to full speed. So letting it down clock while idle is not a disadvantage. You will not lose any power doing so.

Some power profiles permanently down clock the CPU on battery (Max battery). But others do the same speed stepping while on battery and AC power.

 

I use CPUgenie to ensure that my multiplier is always at the max when plugged in

 

Programs you can use to control cpu multipliers:
Rmclock.... free.
CpuidCrystal .... free
Cpugenie.... not free.

Cpuidcrystal is the easiest to use in my opinion.

 

my posts are, too. why? because i want to know what use he sees from doing that. and there is none. which makes the whole topic mood, and let the op learn something.

unlike yours, who just supports the OPs false believe in doing something useful, or gaining something from it.

 

The power of placebo never ceases to amaze me.

The one reason for disabling speedstep that I can think of is when you are overclocking. It has been reported that when overclocking Atom CPUs that people can hit higher Ghz when disabling speedstep.

Otherwise, there is zero reason to do so.

 

placebos rule the world (in all interpretations one can want haha ).

yes there are reasons to disable it. they are very specific, and thus i want to hear them from the ones wanting to disable it. if they can't give the detailed specific answer on where they have a benefit that happens to not be a placebo, the whole work is for nothing.

i've seen so far about .. 2 systems where it made sense. both where buggy, but that fixed it, so buying a new, correctly working system was not needed.

none of those happen to be core based. these where both years ago.

 

If you read my post, i said "that" post meaning your last post (the one directly above my post). You were insulting another member in your own way, which is unnecessary and had nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

I also think that disabling speedstep seems silly, but I am not going to tell others that they are wrong for doing it.

 

Thank you i'll look for that.

And no, to the eariler posters i run everest ultimate, and the cpu does NOT throttle up when needed, that's the problem!

I'll be watching youtube in hd that uses 100% cpu and it'll still stay down at 1ghz instead of 2ghz for a good 3-5 minutes then suddenly it goes to 2ghz again.

It's annoying and sometimes it leads to slow performance in some things if it's not max. It doesn't hurt performance or longevity (Who here has used a laptop past 10 years?) significantly, i just wanna do it.

And this stupid dell, if i disable speedstep in bios, it defaults to the LOWEST possible setting, not the highest, so that's not an option.

I'll try cpugenie later after i sleep.

I shouldn't have to justify or explain why i want to do what i want to do anyway, that's all beside the point and it's my problem, if i wear out my fans then let me worry about it.
I asked simply for a program that could max the speedstep, or a way to do it, not some discussion as to why i want it done. *Sigh*

 

when ever you ask about something you should be prepared about a why. as the why can often solve the what.

in your case, though, well, this shouldn't happen at all. at least not on win7, at least not in balanced mode. you should check dell for chipset drivers and all. speedstep should work without a flaw, it always did for millions of pcs. disabling it's default behaviour means a hotter laptop on powerline, and a slower laptop on the go. both, imho, not acceptable, and should be critizised towards dell. this should get fixed.

 

I just want to exert manual control over it myself, which i don't understand why it's so difficult

I want to be able to make it do what i want when i want, i set all the windows 7 power options.. min 100% max 100% for plugged in, min 5% max 10% for battery... but it wont do it.

I've spent 2 days in XP-64 on this thing and gonna have to go back to 7 anyway, i'll try chipset drivers this time.

 

it should do it exactly as you document in the power options. well, not exactly, as it depends on how many clock steps it can actually do. but it should map quite well to it.

but, just to reiterate. for plugged in, you should leave min 0, max 100%. and actually, the same for on battery.

actually, to go further. when you install win7, there are two default power modes chosable from the battery icon directly, which you have on the bottom right. one is balanced, one is power saving.

the first one should be the one you like as your plugged-in, and the second one for your on-battery. they should work, 100%, as you want.

means your cpu being always at 100% speed when ever you require it. when you don't, it's a WASTE of everything to let it be there. it has 0 use. 0. it can actually make the system less performing, as due to the added heat, f.e. the gpu can't deliver as much, or even the cpu has to downclock, or what ever.

battery saver mode on the other hand will never let your cpu to clock UP. which is useful if you want the longest batterylife possible. other than that, you should just stay at balanced mode. it works great for plugged in and on battery.

computer systems evolved massively. balanced mode is what they are designed for. plugged in AND on battery. use it, it's the best.

and if you don't believe me, at least TRY it for a while. get used to forget old habits in here. i'm the mythbuster in here

 

On Windows 7, it will still clock up, but only if there has been high-ish CPU usage for a couple of seconds.

 

I'm cycling OS's on my new laptop to see which i like best, XP isn't usable, i won't say why this isn't what this thread is for but i'm trying Vista now before going back to 7.

I was under the assumption, that if you went to any power profile, and modify it under 'advanced settings' to min 100% max 100%, balanced, performance, battery saver, whatever, that for "plugged in that it should do exactly that, stay at 100%.

I think there's some "windows magic" however that doesn't do that and still throttles up and down and whatever it wants in the background, regardless of what you set. I'll try balanced and see what happens. I wish i could find 3rd party software however, and just force it to whatever i wish, and just be-gone windows power settings and do what i want with it, and FORCE it to whatever i want, but i don't think it exists. That is why i started this thread, to see if anyone can find software to do this.

I know it's not 'typically' what anyone would do with a system, and i know it's not normal, but since i don't know of anything like this, so i was hoping someone here, does.

 

you know, maybe it's not really windows fault? maybe your hw does not WANT to be at full usage if it notices it has NOTHING TO DO?

at least if you get a core i5 or i7, it manages it all on itself depending on the workload. and pre-i5/i7 days, it does downclock on itself, too (new is core-usage-dependent upclocking in the powerenvelope of the whole cpu).

so no, you can't get what you want, most likely. and this is a good thing.



you really have to think about what you really want. there is 0 gain in trying what you want. why do you want it, then?

 

If I select high performance, my CPU stays at it's highest default clockspeed. Balanced or Powersaver and it speedsteps.