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    Hard drive performance/rating different under Windows 7 than Vista?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by jim_0068, Jan 19, 2009.

  1. jim_0068

    jim_0068 Notebook Consultant

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    Hello

    I have a Vaio Z and i created a 30gb partition and installed Windows 7 on it; my other partitions include a recovery partition put on by Sony originally and the other is my Vista partition.

    Anyway; my hard drive or disk assessment score under vista is somewhere around 5.5 however under Windows 7 is it around a 2.X. Why is there such a drastic difference? Is it because of how small i partitioned the drive?

    I haven't tested any moving of files to see which is faster officially; but i just moved a 300mb file this morning and it seemed much slower in windows 7 than in vista.

    Could it have something to do with my drive not using the ANCI drivers correctly under windows 7?


    Thanks for any help
     
  2. Full-English

    Full-English Notebook Deity

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    If you try this, it may improve your scores:

    1. Control panel>hardware & sound>device manager
    2. Under disk drives, find your main drive
    3. Right click your main drive and select properties
    4. Policies tab, uncheck the "enable write caching on this device"
    5. Click ok, and re-run your WEI
     
  3. be77solo

    be77solo pc's and planes

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    I've seen that noted before, but curious, why would disabling write caching improve speed? I always enable it to increase speed, or atleast I always thought it did.
     
  4. coolguy

    coolguy Notebook Prophet

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    Most newer laptop HD's won't let you change this setting.
     
  5. kegobeer

    kegobeer 1 hr late but moving fast

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    What drive do you have? My first Win 7 install was on a 5400rpm drive with no partitions, and it had a miserable 2.2 rating. My next install was on a 7200rpm drive in the third partition, and it scored a 5.8. It still seems a little low, but either MS has new thoughts about their ratings or the beta is flawed when it comes to rating the computer.
     
  6. illmatic8

    illmatic8 Notebook Consultant

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    I personally think it's a bug in 7...mine's 2.9 as well
     
  7. Just Lou

    Just Lou Notebook Evangelist

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    My 5400rpm, 160gb Fujitsu scored 5.2.
     
  8. jim_0068

    jim_0068 Notebook Consultant

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    it's 320gb 5400rpm hitachi i believe, it was an ugrade through sony because it's a PITA to change one on the z so i opted for the upgrade

    i'll test some data transfers and see if it's a bug
     
  9. hypdotspec

    hypdotspec Notebook Evangelist

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    WD 320 Black Scorpio,

    In Vista 5.8
    In Win7 5.9

    On a side note, my CPU went from 5.3 in Vista to 6.0 in Win7
     
  10. chipmoney

    chipmoney Notebook Evangelist

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    my 250 GB 5400 RPM drive gets a 2 o_O
     
  11. jpmor82

    jpmor82 Notebook Enthusiast

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    WD 320gb black scorpio

    vista 5.6
    windows7 5.8
     
  12. BinkNR

    BinkNR Knock off all that evil

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    I came across a Microsoft blog entry that better explains this. Full details are at http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/01/19/engineering-the-windows-7-windows-experience-index.aspx, but here’s the relevant technical explanation from the article:

    An example problematic sequence consists of a series of sequential and random I/Os intermixed with one or more flushes. During these sequences, many of the random writes complete in unrealistically short periods of time (say 500 microseconds). Very short I/O completion times indicate caching; the actual work of moving the bits to spinning media, or to flash cells, is postponed. After a period of returning success very quickly, a backlog of deferred work is built up. What happens next is different from drive to drive. Some drives continue to consistently respond to reads as expected, no matter the earlier issued and postponed writes/flushes, which yields good performance and no perceived problems for the person using the PC. Some drives, however, reads are often held off for very lengthy periods as the drives apparently attempt to clear their backlog of work and this results in a perceived “blocking” state or almost a “locked system”. To validate this, on some systems, we replaced poor performing disks with known good disks and observed dramatically improved performance. In a few cases, updating the drive’s firmware was sufficient to very noticeably improve responsiveness.

    To reflect this real world learning, in the Windows 7 Beta code, we have capped scores for drives which appear to exhibit the problematic behavior (during the scoring) and are using our feedback system to send back information to us to further evaluate these results. Scores of 1.9, 2.0, 2.9 and 3.0 for the system disk are possible because of our current capping rules.​
     
  13. regent305

    regent305 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Vista
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    Windows 7 (enabled write caching)
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    Windows 7 (Disabled write caching)
    [​IMG]
     
  14. kazin326

    kazin326 Notebook Enthusiast

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    dude I AM HAVING THIS SAME PROBLEM. everywhere else i went people thought i was crazy.

    I have a Vaio Z540 and im running windows 7 64 bit. I get a 1.9 as my disk data transfer rate when it used to say 5.5 in vista 32bit.
     
  15. kazin326

    kazin326 Notebook Enthusiast

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    hey BLINK is that article saying that we are performing faster then 7.9 which is the capped limit for windows 7 that it is just showing us a false number??

    And can someone explain how disabling write caching is going to speed our performance up?
     
  16. BinkNR

    BinkNR Knock off all that evil

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    My understanding of the article is that they artificially capped HDs that exhibit poor behavior.
     
  17. Amranu

    Amranu Notebook Consultant

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    I get a 2 on my patriot warp v2 ssd haha
     
  18. kazin326

    kazin326 Notebook Enthusiast

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    well my hard drive isnt crappy if its a 5.5 in the vista one
     
  19. i.like.pie

    i.like.pie Notebook Consultant

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    my hdd gets a 3 in win7 and something much higher in vista
    also, my gpu scores somwwhat higher in win7
     
  20. dixonwa

    dixonwa Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have 2 X 300GB VelociRaptor's in Raid 0 and cant get a score above 5.9 with windows 7