How many Vista users plan to ignore Windows 7?

I liked XP. It was pretty stable for me on the whole, although I did have the odd blue screen now and again. My main problem with it was that it started to feel "dated" and it's security wasn't up to much and I never felt entirely safe using it.

Therefore when Vista was released I jumped on it and have never looked back. It's been 100% stable for me without a single crash or slowdown since installing it in February 2007. I also love UAC and all the other security improvements and have had no problems on the security score at all. It also looks beautiful.

Therefore, what do I need Windows 7 for? I migrated to Vista because I wanted a more secure operating system and I didn't want to buy a mac or switch to Linux just yet. Now I have that, in fact I have everything I want, so I am not remotely interested in Windows 7.

I'm sure a day will come, like with XP, when Vista will start to feel "dated" and will be insecure because it will no longer offer effective protection against the latest threats, but today is not that day! When that day comes, I will be sure to upgrade like I did from XP, but I really don't see why I have to buy new OS's every 2 years if they are still more than adequate for the environment you use them in?

How many of you Vista users feel this way? Or will you be keeping up with the Jones's and going for Windows 7 ASAP?

 

If 7's performance improvements pan out I will certainly migrate (probably after the first service pack...).

 

I will wait for some informed opinions.
Before Vista was released, it was described as a huge evolution in operating systems. Turns out it wasnt... Took vista a while to become popular. I will also probably wait for SP1

 

I also, will wait a bit ~ like TabbedOut and Potentv are going to be doing!

Some will get it right away, other's will wait.


Cin

 

If 7 solves my issues with Vista, I'll install asap. I have the beta version but no pc willing to take one for the team .

 

Vista was an improvement over XP and Windows 7 is an improvement over Vista, I'm not sure why you wouldn't be interested. If you aren't interested in increased performance, stability, and new features than I guess you shouldn't feel the need to upgrade.

 

But I have absolutely no problems with performance, stability, and there are no new features in Windows 7 that I wish Vista had.

Apart from possibly being faster, how can Windows 7 improve on Vista experience of never once crashing or being unstable? How do I benefit from more features that I won't use?

That's my point. In XP I had a problem with it being dated and insecure. Vista fixed my problem. I now have no problems at all, so how can Windows 7 fix them? It simply isn't worth the money for me.

In a few years Vista will get dated and just like XP I expect it to start being insecure against the latest threats. Then will be the time to upgrade for me

 

I'm perfectly happy with Windows Vista, I run it on my Macbook Pro, I like it more than OSX, in fact. Windows 7 doesn't seem that much different than Vista, which WAS a major evolution UNDER THE HOOD. Windows 7 brings the Vista core heavy tweaks and optimizations along a highly evolved UI. Vista is the prototype for Windows 7.

That said, I've been following the msdn Windows 7 blog since it was started, and I will probably upgrade as soon as I'm sure OSX bootcamp will work without major showstoppers with Windows 7. I *may* wait till I purchase a new computer if the price is still in the stratosphere. If they offer the OS at lower prices, Microsoft will be rewarded with my money up to a year earlier.

 

Indeed, I think that's the main reason to upgrade. If the new version offers you something you need that the previous version didn't. If you have issues with Vista and Windows 7 fixes them, then upgrading is a no brainer IMHO.

For me however, I have ZERO issues with Vista, so upgrading would be upgrading for the sake of it.

 

Windows 7 is an offshoot of Vista. I would wait for awhile while they sort out the 'bugs'. I do hear rave beta reviews though.

 

And what the heck is so darn bad about Windows 98--you gosh durned kids and your new fangled technology--always racing ahead with the "latest thing"

Windows 98 forever!

 

I think you are forgetting the big players here. Once again, NBR is not the majority. You and I can modify our laptops according to the trend. Others cant. Vista can be an improvement, but at what cost?

1. Infrastructure modifications
2. New hardware

For an institution that is expensive. Vista did not justify the cost in HSBC where I worked. They used XP. If 7 follows suit, then people will be reluctant to upgrade. By people I mean the big players paying hundreds of thousands of euros yearly for Microsoft Licenses.

 

If my laptop will be able to run it . I am using 64 from now on .

 

can't move on yet... vista runs perfect on my machine.

 

I feel that way about XP.

To the OP, yeah sure it's dated, so is my wife, what's insecure about XP that a couple programs can't take up the slack?

 

Oh, you know now what exactly the RTM will have, and you know you're going to skip it. You base this on what.. leaked pre-beta builds?

OK.

 

If Vista is working fine for you and you are happy with your system, then you should keep using it. Vista is a perfectly capable OS and a lot of people have wrongly gave it a bad reputation. I have not tried Win 7 beyond the initial pre-beta, but I will definitely look forward to it coming out and I will probably switch to it due to my nature of being an early adopter. However, not everyone is like a lot of us and instead of disrupting a system that is working fine in favor of what's newer and more shiny they should just stick to what works until it either stops working or they get a new computer.

 

http://www.winsupersite.com/faq/windows_7.asp

Not only that, but the Windows 7 feature list has been out for a while and is well documented :-/

 

Same here.

I tried Vista since launch and found myself going back to XP Pro. I never had any issues with XP Pro since it was released.

 

my dad won't move from vista to win7. they remove the movie maker, his main reason to use vista.

me, personally, don't know. if i get cheap update options, i may, just for satisfying me geek needs. then again, i might stay with vista just as well. it works great and i'm a proud user of it. so i'm not "uh yes, i had vista, now i have win7" "oh yeah, vista sucked badly, didn't it?". i don't want to even start such discussions with ordinary non-geek people

 

That site has been updated SIX times, three times in the last six months.

So again I ask, you base your conclusion on something that is FAR from final?

 

IF Microsoft doesn't charge ridiculous upgrade prices that they charged for Vista...I'll probably migrate immediately (and not wait for SP1) based on what I'm reading from these early early builds.

It really comes down to cost as I will not pay more than $150, and more preferably $100...for a "fully featured" upgrade (compared to $250+ for Vista Ultimate upgrade).

I am inclined to believe that it will be ridiculously priced, however, just based on Microsoft's previous actions and therefore will only upgrade when moving on to my next PC and will pay the "Microsoft Tax".

With all that being said though, if they actually deliver with Windows 7...they can probably sell for ridiculous prices and still sell the product.

 

They removed it so they can give people the option to download the live version which is way better.

Back to topic, after using the beta I will pre order 7... Cant wait to get RTM.

 

See, you're still making the same mistake I alluded to earlier. The Windows 7 feature list is OUT. It's available. Windows 7 development isn't like Vista's where you could expect wholesale changes during the Beta's.

The site I linked you to is just one of many, and the fact it's been updated with new information as it's become available makes is MORE reliable not less as you are implying. Paul T started that page when Vista was released and added to it as information has become available. He hasn't just been posting radical theories and then deleting them when he's proved wrong. I take it you don't know much about his site then?

I say again, the information is OUT, and Windows 7's development isn't like Vista's. If you are expecting radical new features or radical changes between now and release just like Vista's development then you are about to be very disappointed.

 

I think the 2000 to XP days are gone. 7 seems to be Win Me

 

uhm, i like that. but the live version is not way better for offline work right now. if they will allow him to do the same stuff he does now (more or less converting movies on disk to disk, re-editing it a bit), then it'll all be fine.

except the need for a live-registration for him which is useless. but we can live with that.

but right now it doesn't fully replace and the old app features.

we'll test it out and see.

btw, that's not offtopic. it's about plan to ignore win7 and why.

 

Well that assumption is just silly

 

Do explain.

 

I only got a real copy of XP because it was around for so long and I got the CD at an incredible discount.

I only got Vista (OEM version) because it came on my PC.

If I need to buy a PC during the time Windows 7 is GA I suppose I will have it, too.

If the OS were $75 or so at the most I might consider buying it, but with Vista Home Premium at $216.99 at Amazon.com it is more than I will spend.

 

Like all Microsoft OS's the day Windows 7 comes out.

We will All be using Vista SP2.


And unless you have a Touch screen Laptop or Desktop with a Touchscreen.

Windows 7 will give you Zero Reason to switch from Vista SP2.


I will wait for Windows 7 SP1, and then buy a Laptop that comes with it and by then probably a Touch screen Model as well.


XP Pro lasted me 8 year or more I think.

Vista 64-bit SP1 will last me, maybe 3 at most before I jump to what ever is next.

 

Buy the OEM...Ultimate OEM costs the same as prenium upgrade...

To be honest it's not really worse than the $600~1200 apple tax on MACs

 

I will upgrade just because i like to be right with the new technology.

 

I find, depending on platform and environment, I use a mix of Vista and XP on a week to week basis. In the house, we have 4 laptops (In the sigs, one floating XP/Firefox laptop for guests and the others for the fam fam).

1 desktop = XP, 1 = XP/Vista
2 laptops = XP Pro, 1 = Vista, 1 = XP/Vista

For me, work dictates my usual work platform, and I have yet to encounter a company using Vista wide spread and most work issued laptops/desktops (or systems reimbursed) are XP Pro 99% of the time. I've provided tech support for both (mostly XP, with pocket Vista users here and there). On the home front, though, it is an even mix and I move between them seamlessly.


I bought the family a Gateway MX8711 over a year and a half ago and it came with Vista Home (pre-SP1), and it ran great and continues to run great (especially with a CPU/memory upgrade, it runs very quick). It is now primarily my daughter's laptop (she quotes the possession law ad nauseum, lol) My daughter's desktop is XP, laptop Vista. She likes Vista for Movie Maker, but outside of that they are equal to her.

But the problem is that outside of DX10, I have yet to find a meaningful (read: NEEDED) reason to move to Vista on other systems and I've yet to find a game for myself that requires DX10 only. To me, they have been effectively interchangeable for use. The "added" security to Vista is basically an answer for XP user laziness or failure to heed basic precautions.

I've never had a personal system compromised with XP, but I've cleaned up plenty.

I'll end up installing Windows 7 somewhere, somehow and giving it a workout, but from what I've seen, OSes are more mildly evolutionary than revolutionary at this point. Even XP supports a 64-bit architecture and it is this almost inert evolutionary path coupled with saturated "feature-itis" that has XP still wildly popular and Microsoft forcing Vista down OEMs throats via their "Vista w/ downgrade to XP" edict for their business systems divisions.

But the days of Vista "sucking" are long gone. Especially with the introduction of SP1, Vista is responsive, quick and reliable and this is on a laptop with integrated graphics, 2gb of memory, a mediocre 100gb HD, and a T7200 processor. On my Quad Core desktop, Vista flies, but I find myself booting into XP 99% of the time because, like I said, there is no compelling reason to use Vista. Odd, a perfectly viable OS that offers no reason, at least personally, to use it as my mainstay OS. *shrug*

Microsoft has extended their order cutoff date *again* for XP and software developers make sure to make their wares are XP and Vista compatible. The demand for XP is reflected in its still viable nature.

I guess a better name for the thread would have been, "How many XP/Vista users plan to initially or forever ignore Windows 7?"

Windows 7, like many other upgraded applications, has to say to me, "I'm offering you features X, Y, Z" that make me go, "Wow, those are serious, compelling, needed reasons to migrate from XP or Vista to Windows 7."

If Windows 7 offers something viable and compelling to merit an upgrade outside of yet another layer of dual to triple booting, I will, but I doubt it at this point.

 

hmm I might Ignore Win7 if it doesn't offer more than what Vista does but i am like everybody in NBR so might the change time if MS offers it for free :wink:

 

Well currently.... I don't see too many problems with Vista. Unless windows 7 offers something new and exclusive (like a new DX) which they won't, there is no reason to jump over immediately. I don't understand why Microsoft is pushing 7 so much. They are probably going to change gui a little, add some new wallpapers and sounds (Yippeee) and a load of other useless things.

There has to be a more compelling reason than its NEW for me to jump over.

 

And there is. Its about perception. Vista may be a decent OS but in the business community its a rotten egg. Clearly the majority of businesses are NOT migrating systems to Vista and they are still exercising their XP downgrade rights when they buy new systems. MS just extended XP again to accommodate system builders and OEM's to keep their customers happy. Another reason.. and a big one is that Vista is just too resource hungry and has too big a footprint to run on small netbooks with limited SSD storage space. And netbooks is the one market that is showing strong growth.. something MS cannot ignore and was to stupid to forcast when they coded vista. MS has said that seven will boot faster, and will have leaner code and will also be less resource hungry. Businesses are all waiting for this and many will skip Vista and use seven. MS also says that seven will be lean enough for netbooks. These are very good reasons why MS needs to replace vista ASAP.

If MS does not do this then allot of businesses will migrate away from MS altogether to other solutions like Apple/linux. If MS were to end of life XP with only vista as an alternative then many netbooks would have non MS solutions. There is so many compelling reasons for MS to move away from Vista. To just stay with Vista would be complete suicide and would ensure market share drain big time. MS knows this all to well and they are pushing hard as hell to get seven out like yesterday.

 

I'm not completely satisfied with Vista; the only reason I won't reinstall XP today is because 1) it's dated and 2) this way I can help troubleshoot Vista, as it's the latest, and what's installed on many new computers. Windows 7? I'll wait and see what the feedback is, what people think, what all has changed. If it's really good, I might purchase a copy soon. Or, if it's not too impressive, I may just sit things out with Vista...maybe I'll get a new computer in a few years, and upgrade to Windows 7 then. In that case, I'll probably use Linux more exclusively.

 

To be honest, I will always do my best to keep up with newer releases of Windows. I've installed 7 before and am not a fan of its new taskbar where you move your mouse over an icon and all windows open in that application fan out. I wish they left the taskbar the way it was in terms of functionality.

Apart from that I have no clue how to use Libraries in Windows Explorer but I do enjoy the overuse of Aero.

 

I can see your frustrations with Libraries but I am starting to see there uses. I am sure that the Libraries might tie into there Live services and will offer other functions. I Have not played with them to much so I am not for sure. If someone knows more please enlighten me.

 

OP, you're trippin...have you even tried 7? I'm a big fan of Vista, but 7 just blows it away. It's Vista with absolutely no bugs, and improved UI, new features, way snappier...

Give it a try.

The new taskbar alone is good enough reason to swtich. Give 7 a try, I guarantee you'll never look back.

 

hm.. vista with no bugs.. hm like .. vista?

have no bugs here.

the new taskbar can be reconfigured to work like the old one, so it's nice for the future. the new taskbar is great in touch-environments but else not really of much use. i prefer to have texts with my buttons, and the buttons as wide as possible. but thats a preference and it's good to still have the choise.

 

Speaking of bugs . Found one in Vista today. Mapped 6 network drives and it refused to show the nice graph with space available on one of them. Had to remap and change the letter for that drive. It did not like Q. Heheheheheh .

 

Have you seen just how big Vista has gotten with all the updates and service packs! I have look for my post on it!!! I like Windows 7 so far.

 

I just couldn't be bothered installing WIndows 7 on my Vaio - installign drivers in the right order, finding them, and and and...
(Unless I update - which leaves a mess in the registry...)

Oh, and there is the cost.
(Unless it apears in my universities MSDNAA library...)

I will stay with Vista on my Vaio until I get a new computer which will have Windows 7.
(Unless a significant reason apears for me to upgrade - and I wouldn't know how significant...)

 

OS X has had 6 times more service packs and updates. I think Vista has done quite well. 7 will most likely have less in 3 years when comparing 7 to Vista. Vista laid out the ground work for what will be great in 7.

 

Depends on the price of the upgrade. If it's relatively affordable, I'll bite right away. Otherwise, I'll probably stick with Vista for the next 4 or 5 years.

 

Die hard XP users won't be budging to upgrade by any means and will continue to justify using it. I've read that there will be an SP2 for Vista prior to Windows 7 release. And Win7 will be released in '09 instead of '10. Companies will probably not upgrade because it's not cost effective with today's economy and no significant benefit.

 

Yeah, and then they are the first one's to go on a huge rant about how it's harder to find things that are compatible with XP. I see it enough as it is even tho most things are still compatible.

I will probably switch to windows 7 after i read some reviews about it, but will probably install it on a separate partition first.

 

Windows 7 shows increased performance and decreased footprint (disk and RAM) compared to Vista. While you can thank Vista for giving the last two years of hardware development some serious steroids (low RAM prices and better integrated gpus, all thanks to Vista), you wont need that hardware to run 7.

Business used to be in the groove of upgrading every couple of years, but XP's unnaturally long life has made IT pathetically lazy and inept. If IT can't hack it, likely because most of them are understaffed as it is, they'll stick with XP.

Did you use Windows ME? Were you stuck with it for OVER A YEAR on a laptop YOU PAID MONEY FOR? Yeah, that's what I thought. If you didn't live in the trenches, stop telling war stories of those who did.

See above. Neither Vista nor 7 show signs of being completely unusable for over an entire year. Vista started out pretty rough, but it is a more than competent OS at this point. Mass human perception, also known as mass hysteria, decided Vista's fate. THAT is why Microsoft wants to make a perceptual cut, because people are stupid pack animals. (myself included)

 

The thing that worries me most about Windows 7 is that as they are saying at the moment, it will have problems supporting crossfire and sli setups.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/06/microsoft-disses-hybrid-sli-and-crossfire-wont-support-them-in/