I am going back to XP, enough of Vista for me

I'm in the process of backing up my user data in preparation for a full wipe of the hard drive and a clean install of XP.

 

I don't believe it!

 

do it while you still can. i gave vista a good long chance, but when i saw my gf's inspiron 1100 with XP performing much better than my 1520 with vista- i realized how bad vista really is.

 

hear hear!!!!

need to make the plunge myself. if i could just get those windows mail files backed up ..... oops .... just got another email!

 

i find Vista to be much better than XP.

 

Nice move...

 

I did the same thing, running XPS m170, ran Vista for a 9 months or so, back to XP, and I am so much more happy to be back on XP.

 

I did the exact opposite. Ironically, my USB external transfer speeds are much better with Vista (which sharply contrasts what many users have experienced). Go figure.

 

Couldn't you just wait for the SP1? It's coming out in early 2008 from what I've heard.

 

Every week we seem to get another thread of someone going back to XP which is reflective of exactly what is occurring; the poster is looking for XP support.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but Vista is now and always has been a faster and more stable environment.

Its been argued over and over and over...

 

Exactly what problems are you having?

 

USB Sync & WMDC is completely broken. I cannot sync my Windows Mobile device anymore. The USB Sync driver won't even install. I get the This operation requires an interactive window station and failed install.

 

My WMDC works, although slowly. This is with an Axim X51V w/ Windows Mobile 5.0.

 

My WMDC also worked, then it quit. According to Microsoft I need to reinstall Vista to get it working again. If I'm going to reinstall an OS it sure as hell is not going to be Vista now!

 

Ok, I'm starting to believe you now.

 

None of my old games worked under Vista; hell, none of my programs worked under Vista, period. XP and Ubuntu perform nicely for me.

 

More stable than what? I got Vista a little ironed out after some massive BSOD and freeze problems which really screwed over my file system. It was nice for a week.

Now, after a recent update, I have freeze problems when waking up and the fingerprint reader has gone south.

This is the bumpiest ride I've had since they screwed up the upgrade install instructions for this MIPS Unix flavor I was administering in 1989. It folded, spindled and mutilated itself badly enough that I had to practically pull the damn thing apart and put it back together by hand over about 12 hours.

I am thinking about playing with Ubuntu. How much like real Unix is it? I haven't messed with Linux in about seven years.

 

Wait.... first of all, you need to have the knowledge to work through some BSODs. XP was 100 times worse when it first came out. Do you remember this??? CRASH...CRASH..CRASH...CRASH...

As for your wake up problem, its solved in the latest driver updates if it is Nvidia. (see my Tweaks)

As for the FPreader...works fine if you have the right software. What system do you have and are you running 64bit?

 

No offense, but that is patently untrue, and I can produce scores of benchmarks to prove it. Vista is in no way, shape, or form faster than XP, even on hardware twice as fast, much less on equivalent hardware. On every computer I've ever personally installed Vista on - and that's 4 different ones spanning four very different hardware specs - it's been slower and less stable in every possible regard. Boot up times, shut down times, and crashes more than double, while general Windows performance, CPU benchmarks, and gaming performance all take a nose dive. Every single computer, every single build of Vista from Beta 2 to retail. And dozens of other people here and hundreds if not thousands more across the net will agree. Vista is, on current and especially last-gen hardware, the worst of the four major consumer operating systems (Ubuntu, OSX, XP, Vista) in every imaginable way.

 

speaking of that, (this is on vista 32-bit)

so my laptop was running fine today, when suddenly a blue screen popped up saying windows encountered an unexpected error and needed to shutdown. So it goes through the process and goes back to the original screen that pops up when you turn on your computer originally, then it goes to the unexpected shutdown screen and "initializes" to 100%, then it goes to the safe mode, safe mode with networking, normal mode, etc screen. Once i select a mode (and ive tried every mode), windows attempt to boot up, but after right during the windows screen seems finished loading, a blue screen (i assume the BSOD) flashes for a second and disappears, and the computer cycles back to the initial screen, and restarts the process. I tried to boot the windows 32-bit vista disc on the F2 setup screen, because it says there should be an option to "repair windows" on the disc, which i cannot find. I have no idea how to fix this problem and i am about a day's worth of waiting away to switch back to XP. and this is after i rebooted vista back on my NEW laptop. I have never had so much trouble with a computer before vista, and it really is CRAP! In a year, go back to it once it is stable and effectively uses the laptop hardware.

 

Vista is slow. My Asus has vastly superior hardware specs compared to my old Pentium M 1.7Ghz, 512MB equipped HP of years ago, yet Vista still doesn't perform any faster than XP did on that system even after all the updates and tweaks have been thrown at it.

I wish I had another copy of XP to put on my G1s, I would love to see how it performs.

 

In my experience, WMDC is the only thing that is slow & less reliable on Vista. I'm pretty sure MS got tons of complaints about this already and WMDC will probably be taken care of in SP1 or another Update soon.

Other than that Vista has been very good to me in the last 4 months.

 

Why Vista?...

 

It also has to do with luck of the draw. XP both in statistics and real life experiences blows Vista away. The issue is that some people actually have hardware that is completely optimized for Vista and are having great experiences.

I'm one of those people - my desktop is flawless. My notebook on the other hand is like speedy gonzalez with XP and a slow motion turtle with Vista.


Edit: The thing that drives me nuts the most is playing Call of Duty 2 online. While in-game performance is very similar between XP and Vista, the game takes about 30 seconds longer to load on Vista. It's downright ridiculous.

 

I'm dual booting XP/Vista.
My original intent was to have Vista be the primary and use XP for apps that were either performance hogs (CAD) or when Vista wouldn't run an app I needed.

After a week of that I reformatted the drive, made XP the primary and Vista as a toy.

Now I use XP for everything and go into Vista when I want to play around with the new OS.

Vista is cool, it's interesting, but it's too immature for my needs at this point. I know it's going to be the hot gizzy in a year or so and I can play with it whenever I want, but still have XP to get work done.

I can't even imagine trying to install Vista on any of the dozens of other machines I have. The lappy I'm using it on came with Vista, so drivers were there. Otherwise I wouldn't bother.

 

How do you work through BSODs that come from drivers that you have to use in order for the machine to function as required?

XP was not 100 times worse. I do remember that. I had like one BSOD in my years of using XP.

Hell I didn't even have a BSOD with Windows ME, although I didn't use that for very long.

 

I evaluated all of my options and decided that Vista was a keeper. So I did a reinstall of Vista.

WMDC, on the other hand, is not. Which also may include Windows Mobile. I do like the portability of a PDA, but I'm due to upgrade my PDA anyway; currently running a Dell X50V with WM2003SE. So I may look into the new HP iPaq 211 that runs Windows Mobile 6. I figure if it also has problems at least it will have some resale value.

If that does not address my problems, then I'll have to find an alternative to Windows Mobile.

 

I was right the first time!

Nothing like a good excuse for some nice new hardware anyway. Feels like Christmas.

 

I'll be buying a real full copy of Vista at some point to make any reinstalls easier.

 

I'm just curious .... what aspects of Vista to you find to be superior (stability, speed, appearance, usability, security, etc.)

Thanks!

 

I can vouch that XP is better for stability & speed. Vista is prettier, fun to use, and security is supposed to be better.

I'm with you on that - I just hate buying an OS and then having to install SP1 & SP2 everytime I format, which I do quite often.

 

I have absolutely no idea how to downgrade to XP, so I'm taking it in to have the computer repair guys do it for me. Costs $90 as opposed to Geek Squad who does the same thing but for $235. Rip off, but I am willing to pay a little to have someone else do it for me, so I don't screw it up irreversibly. I just can't handle Vista's bugs anymore. I'll give them a year to straighten it out then upgrade back.

 

jb1007 you do know that there is a way to install vista w/out having XP right (even if it's an upgrade version)? Just google it.

 

ha ha, easiest solution in the world is out there. Use a program like nLite and slipstream a new CD with the service packs in it.

If you have a burner this won't take 30 minutes of your time and cost is zero and takes no skill.
EZ

 

It seems a handful of people agree that Vista needs to redeem itself big time

http://apcmag.com/6458/dont_wait_for_vista_sp1_pleads_microsoft

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2171472,00.asp

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/story/7081/

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTMxOCwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9785337-7.html?tag=nefd.only

I don't hate Vista, but games run faster on XP so I'm gonna stay with XP for awhile.

And here's a site how to get your programs to work under Vista

http://www.informationweek.com/shared/printableArticle.jhtml?articleID=198800462

 

I've not found anything that does not run under Vista properly, with the single exception of Windows Mobile Device Center (WMDC) 6.1.

 

i think everyone is just afraid of change, vista is just as good, if not better than XP if you can figure out how to configure it right.

i cant convince any of my friends to try linux, and i think thats also why nobody likes vista, they just dont want to change.

 

Read my sig quote.

 

Sorry I doubted you... well, I did have doubts since my treo 700wx runs fine on my desktop. I spent seven hours trying to get it to run on my laptop in vista ultimate, same as on my desktop.

On a good note through, all of my software loaded without issue. Guess I should have installed the treo first. lol

Think I'm going to fall back to what I should have done in the first place, and simply upgrade the ram on my old notebook... and return this HP... I don't fancy putting xp on it (slip stream'n and all that mess).

 

My Treo runs fine on my laptop with WDMC...not a hitch at all.

Also, I think many in this forum have cut up oxycontin and snorted it to think that XP compares to Vista by any means.

By the title its obvious, here lies the last remaining loyal members of the Vista Haters Club.

So...having said that, ok go back to XP.

Let it be said... XP Lovers...the vocal minority.

(As he runs to the trench and dives for cover)

 

I am still running Vista, but not WMDC - what a sucky chunk of software that is. So, while I am able to sync Pocket Quicken, I cannot sync Outlook (No EMail, No Tasks, No Calendar, No Notes, No Contacts) nor can I sync Files (No SplashID, No ListPro).

I did slipstream SP2 into a XP install disk and burned a new CD today, so I should be able to install XP/SP2 easily in the future.

 

Vista is still for the early adopters with more time on their hands than I have at the moment. I was first in line for XP and while I had some issues, not nearly as many as I am having with Vista.

When Windows 95 was introduced it was a much welcome change from the POS that Windows 3.x was. Fundamental file management and a simple user interface was its focus and ended up doing that very well in the end and successfully carried into Windows 98, ME, and finally XP (and even Win2000).

Now they botched the basic file management and GUI that has been successful for over a decade. I'm all for something new and different, but don't f*** with the fundamentals. It's like forcing users to use a completely non standard mouse and keyboard layout. Change from QWERTY to alphabetical or scrambled a different way, etc.

 

what are you talking about?

I said nothing about vista sucks or anything of the snort ( ). I don't think it is vista... seems to be the new sync software. As I always say, an OS is a tool... to other software... it works or it does not. Fairly simple.

 

Did you ever try uninstalling outlook?

I went to another notebook forum and a guy suggested doing that with the pda still hooked up... it worked. I'll keep messing around with it to see if the relationship will stay... I hope this will stay, now if I can get my hp quickdock power adapter here tomorrow, I might solve all my issues.

 

I dropped the partnership in WMDC, rebooted, reformatted, reinstalled Vista, reinstalled office, hard reset the PDA, reinstalled WMDC, restablished the partnership.

Still broken.

I'm quite confident that it is WMDC 6.1 that is the problem.