I need to rip some dvd's. Legally

Ok, a while ago i bought prison break season 1 - 3 DVD box sets sealed and brand new. I am also planning on buying season 1-6 of 24 soon.
So this is perfectly legal seeing as how you have the right to do this if its for personal use.

So, I want to watch them on my netbook, but it does not have an optical drive and I prefer not to buy one.

I have 3 external, 2.5" sata hard drives(100GB, 250GB, and 320GB).
I can use 1 of these to rip the dvd's to. Since I have never done this before, I am posting here for help and advice.

My questions:

What simple free program should I use to rip the DVD's to my computer?

Will the ripped episodes have the exact same, HD quality as they are on the DVD's

About how much space will each episode or season take up, seeing as there are 22x 43min eps per season?

If there is anything else I should know about this plz advise me.


Thanks, I rep

 

10$ that this thread will be closed by moderator in 20 min.
It is not legal.

Something about: while making copies of DVD you own may be legal, breaking the protection, in order to be able to rip the DVDs NOT legal.

 

Actually, it is debatable whether or not it's legal - at least in the U.S. Currently, the U.S. Circuit Courts of Appeal are split regarding whether or not a "personal use" or "fair use" exception exists with respect to DVDs. The 2nd Circuit has held that the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, which covers DVDs, does not contain any such exception; since the original copyright statutes that apply to other things like paper books contain an explicit statutory provision granting the "fair use" exception, the fact that the DMCA does not contain such a statutory provision means that Congress did not intend such an exception to exist. The Federal Circuit Court of Appeals has held to the contrary, and has essentially found a common-law "fair use" exception to the DMCA.

So, there you have it; until the Supremes take a case and resolve the issue, or one of the two courts above recants its position, copying DVDs for personal use may, or may not, be illegal, depending on whether or not you're going to end up in front of a court in the 2d Circuit, or the Federal Circuit.

 

I'm not going to get into the legality of ripping dvd's. But isn't it strange that we can spend all this money buying software to do these tasks, but some believe it's illegal for personal use

HERE is your freeware-- DVDFab HD Decrypter

 

Actually I'm pretty sure the copyright warning will expressly forbid copying, reverse engineering or transmission of any kind... I

If you wanna get technical, I think it's breaking copyright if you lend it to a friend without getting a rental license or something. (Something about forbidding rental, lease, lending, loaning or public displaying).

 

I'll PM you to give you my Paypal account number.

Thank you!

 

Is there anything from the Evergrowing Freeware thread you can use?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=337890

Like from here:

Disk/Image Ripping/Burning
DAEMON Tools [TESTED:McGrady]
DVD Identifier
InfraRecorder
DVDFab HD Decrypter [TESTED]
DVD Shrink [TESTED:THAANSA3]
ImgBurn [TESTED:Hiker]
CDBurnerXP [TESTED:KarenA]
ISO Recorder [TESTED:Schmi Daniel the Man] Notes: Compatible with XP (32/64-bit), Vista (32/64-bit), and Windows 7 (32/64-bit)
BurnCDCC [TESTED:J&SinKTO] works great for images and ISO files - nothing to install - simply unzip the file. Small size that has worked great for me on both Windows XP and Vista 64. Have used on numerous machines.
O & O Disk Image Express [TESTED:Jayayess1190] The name says it all, creates images of disks. (Added March 14, 2009)

**I'm not too sure, if this is right or not..I just took this from the Freeware thread..so, If this is wrong..please delete!

Cin

 

Hey he didn't bet with you. If anything he bet with me And his info was worth $10 so we're even

So thanks guys for all your answers, I will try this tommorow And I will finish repping the rest of you in 24hrs

 

depends on the country. here it is.

 

I think it's illegal everywhree except China and some african countries.


Strange, mods closed the topic about ripping games in 20 min, but this one lives... I guyess it's not illegal? Lets all rip!

 

Not in the least bit strange - after all, one can buy marijuana paraphrenalia in hundreds of shops in NYC and yet even personal use of marijuana is illegal.

Or, one can buy under-the-arm holsters for firearms in many places, and yet concealed carry is generally illegal unless one has a permit, and in NYC obtaining such a permit is well neigh impossible.

Or even better, isn't it funny that they make auto speedometers that go up to 110 or 120 mph, even though it is generally illegal to drive faster than 65mph (75mph in a few states).

Should I go on?

 

R.I.P


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During all the legal maneuvering it seems logic and common sense have gone out the window in the legal system, not for the first time I might add.

I bought my son (he's 2 and half years of age) about twenty DVDs (mostly Disney/Baby Einstein etc..) over a period of two years and they're bloody expensive. I learned in the first three months after he destroyed about five of them that I needed to do something about it.

I now back the originals up so that when (not if) he destroys it I can burn him another. It's strictly for personal use and I don't even lend them out. I see no issues with what I'm doing.

Oh and I use DVDFab for it. It's great.

 

allowed for own use in switzerland.

 

Same here (Denmark) – although CODA and what have you try to make it seem it's not.

 

US copyright laws allow owners of copyrighted material to make one copy for their own personal use.

I'm pretty sure the court case people are refering to is the one refering to the manufacture of software that circumvents the copy protection on a DVD that allow a person to make a digital copy. If I remember the case correctly, a software company had released software that allowed owners of DVDs to circumvent the encryption on DVDs to allow them to make a digital copy. They argued that this was necessary for DVD owners to exercise their rights. The MPAA argued otherwise and the courts ruled in favor of the MPAA, saying there are other ways to make a copy of the DVD without circumventing the encryption.

 

The funny thing is, for concealed carry, you need a permit. If you wear your holster outside your clothes you'll do just fine without a permit. I love the backwardness of gun control.

 

The crux of the issue is how traditional copyright law and the Digital Millenium Copyright Act interact; specifically, whether the fair-use doctrine of traditional copyright law can provide an additional, implicit exception to the anti-circumvention provisions of the DMCA, which do not explicitly provide for a general fair-use exception. The 2nd Circuit expressly found that the anti-circumvention provisions of the DMCA are not related to, or dependent upon, the doctrine of fair-use, and thus the DMCA is violated regardless of whether or not the violation was done in order to make a fair-use use of the protected material. Further, the 2nd Circuit has held that even if fair use applies, nothing in the doctrine of fair-use guarantees a fair-user the right to make an exact duplicate such as can only be made from a DVD by "ripping" it; the court stated that fair use would be satisfied by, for example, a copy made by pointing a camcorder at a monitor that was itself displaying the DVD's content. Universal City Studios, Inc. v. Reimerdes, 273 F.3d 429 (2d Cir. 2001), aff'g 111 F. Supp. 2d 294 (S.D.N.Y. 2000).

By contrast, the Federal Circuit has held that the DMCA anti-circumvention provisions only apply if the complained-of circumvention leads to a copyright violation. See, e.g., Storage Tech. Corp. v. Custom Hardware Eng’g & Consulting, Inc., 421 F.3d 1307, 1318-19 (Fed. Cir. 2005). Under this line of reasoning, since fair-use is not a violation of the copyright laws, the anti-circumvention provisions of the DMCA would presumably not apply.

All of which puts the OP in a potential pickle because the copying he intends to perform, if it involves circumventing a protection measure on the DVDs, will either be a violation of the DMCA since the purpose of the violation is immaterial - as per the 2d Circuit - or will not violate the DMCA since his purpose - personal use - is a fair-use under traditional copyright law and therefore cannot trigger the anti-circumvention provisions of the DMCA - as per the Federal Circuit.

That is a circuit split with real teeth, since it could mean the difference between no liability and massive liability depending on the accident of geography and whether or not you end up in the 2d Circuit's jurisdiction or the Federal Circuit's jurisdiction.

Perhaps the OP would be willing to work up a good test case - a la the Scopes trial (but hopefully with better results this time ) - in order to get the Supremes to resolve such a serious split?

 

Using the Enterprise's Replicator is one way.
Did they mention other ways?

 

Yes, they did; for example, video-taping the image being played from the DVD on a separate monitor - the fair-use doctrine does not guarantee that you can make a perfect copy or one that is indistinguishable from the original, merely one that is sufficiently legible to permit you to make use of the content.

 

OMG, my head almost exploded.

Lawyer talk FTL.

 

For the United States DVD ripping is legal if you own it, but only if there is no copy protection. If there is copy protection it is illegal to rip even if you own it.

 

That was exactly my point. And all movie DVDs in US have copy protection.

 

So are we all in the wrong when we rip dvds? is there a way to distinguish a line between whats legal and whats illegal in terms of copying dvds? this is in response to what KonstantinDK said about all movies in the us having copy protection.

 

Well... one of my good friends ... does rip DVDs. There are programs that do it it. But you, also need a separate program that breaks protection. So yes, all have protection. But.

Until you are caught, no one will care if it's illegal. And I don't see how you can get caught, unless you go to the police yourself and beg them to arrest you., cause you ripped a couple of stupid DVDs.

 

Do you know any copyright laws regarding to the above issue for Canadian resident?

 

Unless you walk through airport security or border security with your DVD collection in hand. But in that case you should be arrested on a matter of principle!

 

No, sorry.

 

Unfortunately, at this point there is no way to tell for sure, nor to distinguish a line between what's legal and what's illegal. About the only thing one can say for sure is that ripping any DVD with copy protection will be treated as illegal in New York, Connecticut, and Vermont regardless of the reason for doing so (those are the three states covered by the Second Circuit Court's jurisdiction). Unfortunately, based on my very quickie review of some of the cases, I sorta think that the 2d Circuit has the better end of the argument in terms of applying the statute - which means that getting a clear right to break copy protection for fair-use purposes can only come from Congress (which is otherwise occupied, at the mo' ).

 

to answer the quality/size question, it really depends on if you decide to go through the one step or two step process. if you simply back up a dvd, it will be the same size (4.7gb), so if you have a 6dvd set, thats about 28gb.
backing up a dvd takes around 20-40min

if you want to then convert what you've ripped into divx format, that will take, depending on your processor, from 2-4 hours, per dvd. it will also take 100% of your cpu for that duration.

so basically, either way, its really NOT worth the effort, imo. maybe just get a $50 external dvd drive.

(2 more things)
if when you back it up, you can chose to "shrink" it at 50%, so save some hdd space.
when you convert to divx, you control quality, and size, and even res, normal eps of 24, etc are 350mb, ish.

 

The MPAA does not want you to rip DVDs because they rather you buy another DVD. For that reason, they have tons of lobbyists paying politicians to make ripping illegal.

However, there are already fair use laws that allow people to make a backup copy for personal use. IMHO, if you are just going to make a personal copy and not distribute it to other people for profit, then it should be legal within the spirit of the law. If the law forbids it, it is an unjust law.

If the MPAA had their way, you could go to jail for letting your friend borrow your copy of Star Wars. There is no way the US government and the states can enforce the letter of the law. It just defies common sense.