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    I'm Astounded by Windows 7

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by xTaill22x, Aug 2, 2009.

  1. Morizche

    Morizche Notebook Consultant

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    No, I'm saying there's nothing wrong with XP, especially without UAC, haha. Just not as responsive to multiple cores and DX 10+. If you don't need what's in Windows 7, nothing seems to make Vista worth it over speed either. Of course, you could use the classic UI for W7, and I don't see a problem with having a feature enabled, if you're not even using it. Not like it's hoarding resources... Do you drag your windows all over the place, back and forth, for no apparent reason?
     
  2. CooLMinE

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    Im disabling UAC either way. So no reason to mention it at all, although for win7 will probably keep it enabled just tell it not to bother me at all :p

    Same goes for Dx10, found it unstable in a lot of games. Few examples, xfire didnt properly support far cry 2 with dx10, COH fonts get all distorted with dx10 after a few minutes of playing (not sure if that was fixed with the newer patches).

    But i actually prefer vista/win7 over XP since the system feels more stable (and probably is, since i rarely had a problem with it, except when it was my fault :D).

    I just hate unpredictable behaviour. Not sure how sensitive aero shake is but since im never going to use it theres no need for it to be there. Hence why whenever i get a new windows i start chopping services that i never intend to use :p Classic theme for windows is a bit ugly, so i prefer the default one mostly but just without the Aero transparency. The question is if you dont use that feature, does aero has any other use and is there any difference from drawing the windows using gpu power ? With my specs didnt really notice any difference at all in Vista when i disabled it so not sure if its meant to be for older systems.
     
  3. Morizche

    Morizche Notebook Consultant

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    Aero gives you thumbnail previews of open program windows, tab previews in IE, and Aero Peek among other things.
     
  4. CooLMinE

    CooLMinE Notebook Deity

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    Ah yea i remember that one. Never liked it :p Usually if im mouseovering something im clicking it 0.5secs later.

    I think im too old fashioned for all these new fancy things :(
     
  5. Dspr_02

    Dspr_02 Notebook Evangelist

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    I put RC1 b 7100 on my pc and I had a lot of problems:
    - Windows Sets my resolution to "1920x1080 (optimized @ 1776x1000) " on an Acer H233H 1080p 23" LCD Monitor hooked up to a 4850 - Tried various drivers with no luck. - All drivers were Windwos 7 64bit....

    - My sound card kept giving errors like mad using the Win 7 64bit drivers (current and previous releases (Asus Xonar DX 7.1))

    - I was not allowed to install programs like FireFox and Steam...etc because "I did not have administrator rights" and this was from a clean install with me being the ONLY user on the PC and in control panel I was told that my account is "System Administrator". - UAC Was disabled

    Video Playback would lag, stutter and pixelate on standard,720p and 1080p HD and Youtube and other sites/forms of video - not vid card or cpu since Vista Ultimate 64bit works flawlessly and gives none of the problems with media palyback...see PC specs in siggy.

    - Lots of crashing and lots of programs freezing (not OC Problem since I tried Stock 2.4, OC 3.2 and OC 3.6)

    My overall experience with Windows 7 RC1 has been horrible from the start, I liked build 6801 where it was completley stable and worked without a hitch.
     
  6. Morizche

    Morizche Notebook Consultant

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    Try RTM, maybe? It also depends on the source of the RC. Though, I assume you downloaded it from Microsoft. I'm sure they're still working on hardware compatibility.
     
  7. Dspr_02

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    it was the Win 7 RC1 from MS themselves =(.
     
  8. neilnat

    neilnat Notebook Evangelist

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    That's just selfish. Most people want the new "prettiness" and so it should be default. Also, if you don't have new features turned on by default, many users will never even know they are there.
     
  9. davepermen

    davepermen Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    and old fashioned is never good, when people want something new, now, not? :) how about learning the new stuff, searching the good in it, starting to fall in love with it, and experience a much better user experience than with the os before?

    that is a gain. just redisabling anything "i don't need it, nor want it" style is ridiculous. drop your laptop, get rid of the cellphone, back into the cave..

    how about trying out new things? that's what life is for, explore, find out stuff, have fun with new things..
     
  10. Darth Bane

    Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith

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    Telling people how they should run their PERSONAL computer is ridiculous.
     
  11. CooLMinE

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    Or the other way around enabled to disabled, you get my point :p

    Old-fashioned guy doesnt necessarily means you stopped trying new things. I means you are more attracted to.. well.. old fashioned "looks" (in my case). Has nothing to do with knowledge etc. And dont get me all hostile again with the ridiculous phrases you use (caves or anything else for that matter).

    This is the start of the line --------------------------------------- This is the end of the line
    Theres a middle as well. Going rampaging on people because they say things you dont agree with them (as always) means you are in the end of the line (well or the start). Thats your choice but enforcing is beyond childish.
     
  12. jcll03

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    +1 second that.
     
  13. Morizche

    Morizche Notebook Consultant

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    New operating systems obviously should come with some new features. Otherwise, it WOULD BE just another Vista, with a slightly different tasbar. Tell me why it should be disabled? Microsoft is catering to a new generation of users. Certainly, there is still a base of users from an older group, but otherwise, people are meant to adapt. Why would they inherently disable NEW features? There is absolutely no logic in that.
     
  14. CooLMinE

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    I didnt say it should be disabled. I meant having an option to disable it in case users (like me) didnt like aero shake and so on. Of course new OS should come with new features etc or else it wouldnt be "new". But also they need to come with an "on/off switch".
     
  15. Morizche

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    Ok, well, it serves no purpose but for a peace of mind that you won't accidentally activate it, though it'd be somewhat difficult to, if you know it's there and how to avoid it. I simply don't understand why it's so important to disable a feature you're not going to use, when it clearly doesn't impede performance at all. Just don't use it.
     
  16. CooLMinE

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    I cant :) Its the same thing as disabling the printer service if you dont have a printer. It will not boost your performance, it will free a few kb's of memory, so why disable it. Take it something as a "if i dont use it i want to disable it" hobby. I know its not easy to understand if you are not all that into tweaking.

    The way I, we (tweakers) see it, an increase is an increase small or big, doesnt necessarily needs to be a visible performance boost.
     
  17. Morizche

    Morizche Notebook Consultant

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    One word: nitpicky. :p Have fun.
     
  18. weinter

    weinter /dev/null

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    Can you guys look beyond the surface?
    IMO the most interesting feature is the improved multithreading ability.
    If you had Xp and Vista when performing software installation other opened concurrent application seemed to lag but in Win7 it is as though you are not installing anything.
    This is much better than Xp and Vista.
    I am on a Dual Core and I noticed it.
     
  19. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    benachmarks would be nice.. i dont rly trust ppl saying its faster / slower.. cause 80% are used to a fu**ed up os with 700 programms and what ever :/

    so they are now like "wow its so fast" cause they finally got an os without all the crap installed..
     
  20. weinter

    weinter /dev/null

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    I did Vista Clean install previously compare to Win 7 Clean install, Win 7 is much better.
     
  21. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    ye i will try win7 on my 2nd hdd now. lets see how good it is. anyone got an idea if i can just copy all my games from 2nd hdd to 1st hdd and later when i deleted win7 from the 2nd hdd also back and still everything works? :eek:

    @edit:
    oh another question:

    which windows 7 u u recommend? i head the vista ultimate was slower compared to home premium cause there was alot of unneeded stuff?
    so i thought about win7 prof?
     
  22. jcll03

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    Yeah, I have vista and W7 dual boot, and I only use vista when I boot it by accident.

    When you get the W7RC, it's automatically the ultimate addition.
     
  23. facadegeniality

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    i dun like the way the taskbar works. when i have IE8 (with two tabs) and am viewing another window (say WMP). When i want to switch back to IE8 to view the page that i last saw, i cant.

    i have to choose from the list (which will popup when i click the IE 8 icon) instead.

    that sux.

    cant they just bring me back to the tab where i was previously?
     
  24. Morizche

    Morizche Notebook Consultant

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    Um..., do you have aero enabled?
     
  25. surfasb

    surfasb Titles Shmm-itles

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    All sound like driver issues to me!
     
  26. Delta_CT

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    On my G50Vt:
    Vista - 51 secs to hibernate, 28 secs to resume.
    Win 7 RC - 20 secs to hibernate, 14 secs to resume.

    Not exactly the most scientific conditions as I should have done both without drivers installed. I also forgot to check normal startup/shutdown times. I wish I had a dedicated testbed to provide an apples-to-apples comparison. But someone in the NBR community surely has such a setup.
     
  27. zakazak

    zakazak www.whymacsucks.com

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    hmm my boot with win7 was 20secs faster.. from 1:19 to around 58 secs

    dunnow about hibernate..
    also 3mdark06 scores got higher .. and i´m not sure but i think i got more fps in some games too.

    overall i think its better.. but 300$ for an os.. just bull**** :/
     
  28. LaptopNut

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    They were kind of clever because the pre order is about 50-70% cheaper.
     
  29. weinter

    weinter /dev/null

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    Correct
    But this time Microsoft changed a few stuff so Ultimate is better.
    First all the bloatware doesn't come preinstalled you have to download it manually so in that sense you can make Ultimate as light and fast as professional moreover ultimate comes with a lot more features so it is preferred.
    The install size is also similar so Ultimate is actually better.
     
  30. ATC

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    I was contemplating Professional over Ultimate but ended with Ultimate and it runs great, feel very light and nimble. I think Vista Ultimate (which I had previously) and 7 Ultimate are very different in this regard, which is a good thing.
     
  31. facadegeniality

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    oh haha..Nope...bcoz im runnning 7 under VMWare.
     
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    Morizche Notebook Consultant

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    hi guys, i did a fresh install of win 7.. i noticed my internet via wifi slowed significantly..i only noticed this when im updating my antivirus software like Eset smart security and malwarebytes antimalware.

    one thing i've noted is that IPv6 connectivity has no network access whereas IPv4 is connected to the Internet. Any significance of this?
     
  34. Deks

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    Well, I clean installed the RTM recently and it works great.
    No driver issues ... every device installed and is working as it should.
    Performance wise ... pretty good.
    I think I'm ready to format the Vista partition since I haven't been using it ever since I put Win 7 RC on and regain 50 GB of valuable HDD space as a result.
     
  35. Kallogan

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    I don't get you guys. Why is windows seven so astonishing ??
    I tried it, well it's exactly like Vista for the most part. There are some new wallpapers ! Soooo cool. It boots faster too but it wasn't difficult to do better than Vista on that point.
     
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