If you actually use Win8's Mail/Calendar/People, be warned..

There's a MS Store update for the Mail/Calendar/People thing. This changes the Mail UI a bit and makes it a *little* better (it properly in-lines images for me now) but for whatever reason they yanked out all of the EAS support for Google. So any Google accounts in your Mail will auto-convert to IMAP/SMTP, and your Calendar will simply.. stop working! Since they don't do CalDAV (yet?)! *facepalm*

I use the Mail and Calendar apps at work since my mail needs are extremely minimal and the calendar worked nice with our Google apps account. But welp, all good things.. Maybe I can do some of the hacks to try to get Google Sync working with Outlook 2013. ; ;

 

Ahhh, this was a big pain. But apparently it was Google which stopped EAS support with Gmail, and Microsoft is still one of the only vendors who use it, which causes these broken email clients (if I remember correctly).
So until Microsoft changes their standard from EAS, we'll be stuck without being able to access Gmail through the MS Email Clients.

 

There are people using use Win8's Mail/Calendar? *facepalm*

 

Google is taking a piecemeal approach with it. No new Sync accounts for free users (ie. new gmail.com, free Apps level) but existing accounts keep working, Sync will continue to be addable for Business Apps level. Mail's EAS has no reason not to keep working, at some point they just detect Google as IMAP/SMTP instead of EAS for new non-paid G.Apps users. But I guess that means Mail would support different levels for different users or something and maybe it's too confusing.

I'm more annoyed that no existing EAS user will "stop working" yet they yanked all the support out entirely without any backup plan for Calendar. They couldn't do this after they had a CalDAV function written in? If they plan to even do that?

 

The Windows 8 mail app is arguably the most touch-friendly mail client out there for Windows 8. I could see a decent percentage of convertible tablet owners using it. I eventually quit using it because it lacked sufficient text formatting options, but I have to say, it was a really pleasant interface for casual email use (i.e., not work email; it's not meant to be a replacement for Outlook).

 

They're working on supporting cardDAV and calDAV for Windows 8's Calendar and Contacts. But yes, GMail sync will need to be done over IMAP due to Google's desire to have everyone using the GMail app, whether that be via the website or through device specific apps that won't be coming to Windows 8, at least natively.

 

I just started using Windows 8 today, and am just dumbfounded by a lot of decisions in it, the whole "there's basically a second, walled, terrible interface OS running on your OS" thing. I'm amazed by how bad those Metro programs are. After launching a bunch of 'em, I just deleted them today.

 

Actually...Google's killing CalDAV support as well: Official Blog: A second spring of cleaning

Oh and the planned CalDAV support was/is for Windows Phone anyway....Microsoft only said that Windows 8 users would retain EAS Calendar sync if they set it up before.

This is just a mess anyway you look at it. Microsoft would have to adopt Google's proprietary API to get sync going again. Still think they should though...they have no other choice really, as Google's the defacto standard in the online calendar space these days.

 

Google isn't exactly killing CalDav the way I understood it, if you can justify using that and not the new API, the devs can still make use of CalDav, at least for a while. Still, if Google is the current standard, for Windows 8, I agree, MS should roll with it.

 

Wish I read this before updating...took me off guard to have my gmail sync stop working.

 

If Google hadn't yanked your EAS access (like they did to me when I had to reinstall Win 8) you can still configure EAS access to Gmail in the new version of the Mail app by manually configuring it. Use the option to set up a custom mail account.

 

This is weird, but my gmail started working 100% again AFTER the update. So it looked like the latest update actually fixed it! (except for calendar sync).

 

Even in the big boy worlds, kids can't play nicely on the playground. MS especially. If it's not theirs they won't touch it. Next Xbox won't even have Blu-Ray because it's a Sony tech (well and others too). Still sad about HD-DVD failure I guess.

 

As far as we know the Xbox 3 will use Blu Ray, and it's worth noting that Blu Ray has Microsoft technology in it too, they (and a lot of companies) get some of the licensing fee.

There's no way I'm touching an Xbox 3 though if the rumors about all games having activation (and not only that, always on activation) end up true. Hopefully it'll crash and burn...should get 0% of the marketplace if there's another system without that restriction. Plus the rumors have been pegging the Playstation 4 as basically similar otherwise, but with 50-100% more GPU, sooooo this ought to be an easy choice.

 

I tried this already. Any "Google" in the Server Address will throw up a "Google doesn't do EAS anymore" thing.