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    If you are using excel 2003 and are considering upgrading to 2007, here are some points to consider.

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by 000111, Feb 27, 2008.

  1. 000111

    000111 Atari Master

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    hi all. i recently had a run in with excel 2007. i just want to warn people about it. if you are using a large spreadsheet, 2007 can be prohibitively slow.

    just thought you might want to know this before you go and invest a bunch of money into software that may not work nearly as well as what you already have. if you 'upgrade' to office 2007, excel may be slow if you use large spreadsheets. by slow i mean slow to open and slow during use (lots of lag). luckily, it was my work computer that had 2007 installed, and i was able to get it rolled back to 2003. so much faster.
     
  2. einhander

    einhander Notebook Deity

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    most businesses dont go with the latest softwares. we're still using excel 2000 lol

    thanks tho
     
  3. 000111

    000111 Atari Master

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    hehe. you're welcome. i mean this to be informative to individuals as well. i know i would be horrified if i bought office 2007 and realized excel had become unusably slow with large files.
     
  4. crash

    crash NBR Assassin

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    Actually, most business take longer to switch to newer software (ie Windows and Office) to avoid spending time learning new software, setting it up, dealing with compatibility issues, to wait until all the bugs have been smoothed out, etc.
     
  5. jtmat

    jtmat Notebook Evangelist

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    How big are the files you are having trouble with?

    My biggest file, which is a financial spreadsheet, seems just as fast in 2007 as 2003.
     
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    Nocturnal310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Thats why NASA uses earliest versions of Macintosh ..

    Imagine NASA doing a complex Asteroid Deviation Mission on Vista Systems.. Suddenly they get 'MISSION FAILURE' alert .. Reason: BSOD

    And the Asteroid is now heading towards the Earth!


    Older the Version, the Safer it is.

    Business, Experiments, Missions u cant depend on Vista or even Leopard....
     
  7. 000111

    000111 Atari Master

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    you're right, older versions are generally safer/better. i am just amazed that microsoft can pull this off. it's like they release beta versions of all their software, and it doesn't really become usable until 3-6 years down the road. imagine car companies trying this kind of business practice. sorry, your new toyata won't run without random BSODs until you get service pack one. hahahaha... ridiculous.
     
  8. Nocturnal310

    Nocturnal310 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Oh i forgot to say .. that link u posted contains all wrong information.

    Office 2007 is not slow ..it doesnt crash & its Damn Fast on Vista .. and now with SP1 its even better.

    I am using Enterprise Edition


    Microsoft is a Software Marketing company at core.. they are not Apple.
    They take ideas from others...modify them & sell them. With or Without permission
     
  9. diggy

    diggy Notebook Deity

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    Office 2007 Pro/Vista Business at work - no problems. Office 2007 Ultimate/Vista Home Premium at home - no problems
     
  10. shantz24

    shantz24 Notebook Consultant

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    I just graduated from college in December and I had been using the student version of Office 2007 and then I switched the the Ultimate version and never had any problems with it lagging or being slow or any other reliability issues. And I used it constantly since I was a Forensic Science major and took numerous upper level chemistry and biology courses and trust me I gave Excel a workout the two semester I was using Office 2007 and other than the interface change it was great. I've grown to like it more actually.
     
  11. metril

    metril Notebook Deity

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    I believe you can limit how many rows and columns you want Excel 2007 to generate. By the way, I would believe that site you posted with a grain of salt. They do not mention how they tested the software.

    Also, correct me if I am wrong but I believe that Excel 2007 is dual core optimized and Excel 2003 has no dual core capabilities.

    You also say that you had 2007 installed on your work computer. Care to mention what OS your work computer uses and what other software/things you installed on it? It could be that some other program was conflicting with 2007.

    Just my two cents.
     
  12. 000111

    000111 Atari Master

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    well, most people will have no problem with 2007. smaller files will calculate quickly. big files with lots of graphs, calculations, etc. are very slow. the work computer uses xp. it has no dual core. other than microsoft office, the computer has AVG installed on it. it runs with no lag using 2003, and 2007 is useless. i just want people to know this before they take the plunge and get an expensive piece of software. 2007 will work well for most people. but if you use files with many calculations/graphs, you might want to look before you leap. if 2007 works well for you, fantastic. maybe what i should do is post an example file, and see if you guys using 2007 see the same kind of lag that i did. anyone up for it?

    ok. here is an example file. try it out on 2007, somebody. move the graphs around, change the text in the graphs, see how it works on excel 2007. if it's anything like it was for me, it will be sloooooow.
     
  13. roytse

    roytse Notebook Evangelist

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    OP, do you have any "big" excel files with lots of graphs and calculations in hand?
    can you upload one somewhere so we all can try it out, see if this is office 2007's problem or only the case for low end computers?
     
  14. j-dogg

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    i just opened, i could scroll threw the whole thing move the text around not a single bit of lag. using office 2007 and vista ultimate 64. im on my pc right now ill try it on my laptop later
     
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    000111 Atari Master

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    roytse-
    haha... well, i had to shave the file a whole lot to upload it. try the one i posted, it's as big as notebook forum will handle.

    j-dogg-
    i posted another file (it's now bigger), try it out.

    i remember most of the lag had to do with the graphs. try playing around with them a bit. thanks for checking it out.
     
  16. j-dogg

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    your still getting that lag with those laptop specs in your sig? that thing should be really fast.
     
  17. 000111

    000111 Atari Master

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    hehe. that laptop has excel 2000 on it. no lag. it is not my work computer. ;)
     
  18. roytse

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    for me, it's really smooth,
    did your computer lag or crash when you open this?
     
  19. 000111

    000111 Atari Master

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    funny. i wonder if it's because 2007 is configured to run on 2 cores... the work computer isn't a dual core it has 1 gb of memory. no lagging or crashing with 2003, 2007 was a bit slow to open- but no crash.
     
  20. j-dogg

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    no its still smooth for me as well. hah i didnt even know excel could make graphs and charts like that. i never got into using it.
     
  21. 000111

    000111 Atari Master

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    j-dog-
    i changed all the data in the file, i'm sure those graphs look pretty goofy now. hehe.

    well, it looks like i need a new computer at work. lol. or just stick with 2003. too bad 2007 was so slow on it.
    thanks for looking at that file, guys. this has been very informative. maybe when i can get a brand new fast computer 2007 will work fine. maybe it doesn't work well on XP?
     
  22. cvx5832

    cvx5832 Notebook Evangelist

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    No problems here. I have 2007 on my work computer too, and I think that relic of the millenium still has a Celeron. Slower than 2003 on the same machine, but certainly not unusable.

    On Core2Duo/Vista, needless to say, is just as fast or even faster.

    Regards,
    Paolo
     
  23. THAANSA3

    THAANSA3 Exit Stage Left

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    I thank the OP for posting the information for everyone; however, I have been using Office 2007 for about 7 months now using Windows XP, and I have no problems to report. I have not noticed much more lag time than I did when I was using Office 2003. I actually like Office 2007 a lot more than I did 2003.

    Most businesses will continue to use Office 2003 for as long as they can, though. They do this to save money more than anything else. Buying licenses for 50 or 100 or more computers gets extremely expensive. At my last job, you only got the Office suite on your computer if you were a supervisor or administrator of some sort. That was funny to me. If you were just a "regular" employee, then you just had to do without Office.lol
     
  24. j-dogg

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    yea at my job we still do word processing in word 2000 and alot of the times we still draw in cad 2002. but we do have cad 08 installed when we get cad files from other offices.