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    Internet Explorer 9 much faster now!

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by icehell, Nov 23, 2011.

  1. icehell

    icehell Notebook Evangelist

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    just update it and noted better performance as firefox which back a littile bit :eek:
     
  2. olyteddy

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    Did it come with a built in text scrambler?
     
  3. Gracy123

    Gracy123 Agrees to disagree

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    Old news.

    1. FF is known for its bad performance ever since v. 4.0 or so. That's why I migrated to Opera. Couldn't stand it anymore.

    2. IE 9 has been around for a few months now.
     
  4. nu_D

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    Bad performance? Known for it? I believe you meant to say that you think Firefox has bad performance.

    Please don't make arbitrary generalizations.

    IE 9 is good. Chrome is too. As is Firefox. Each has their pluses and minuses. Performance wise, they're all pretty much even.

    To be honest, Firefox has gotten to be just about as fast as Chrome. Many people who have been using Firefox have a bunch of add-ons and then jump to a fresh install of Chrome and are shocked by how much faster Chrome appears to be. Well, do yourself a favor, install a bunch of add-ons for Chrome and then compare. Or, disable all your add-ons in Firefox, and then compare.

    Opera? I'm sure it's great. Seems that people either love it or hate it. I wanted to love it, tried forcing myself to use it, but I just couldn't do it. I will say I love their mobile browser for iOS... saves me so much data it's not even funny. Not to mention it's really fast/smooth.
     
  5. icehell

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    I can only say I was a FF fan for many many many years - so many, I can no longer count them. But I was literally FORCED to drop it or only use it as a secondary browser namely because of performance issues on all machines I use (which are configured differently, some run XP, some 7, etc, etc). I tried every possible tweak available and known to humankind to make things better (disabling addons was just an easy start of a very long journey!) - unfortunately neither did I succeed fixing the performance issues I was facing, nor Mozilla with each of the versions they issued afterwards, incl. the latest. And I must say - the only people not facing the same problems are those opening one or two windows to read the news and then closing them again! And my level is "slightly" above that, so are many others, who are complaining about that for years now. Nevertheless they are becoming less - sooner or later we all went to another solution - I for one found myself reborn with Opera, without saying it is "perfect" - FF has its strengths over Opera too - performance is though by far not one of them!

    If you feel there is nothing wrong with FF - you are either an "average user" or you just still don't realize the big difference it makes performance-wise.

    The author of this thread obviously just realized something very well known to many, which you have not yet. That's all.

    P.s. Don't get me wrong, by "performance" I do not mean ms to run HTML5 or other common benchmarking methods! I mean overall performance and stability of the program when used intensively - multiple windows, multiple tabs, days and weeks of usage without restarting, etc. (cache management, pagefile usage, RAM usage, etc., etc.) - things "normal" users don't do and don't notice. To many - opening www.yahoo.com twice a day looks quite the same with all browsers, but that's not the point here.
     
  7. shakennstirred

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    how old is this update?
    as i havent seen any updates for awhile
    not that i have seen ie9 as slow
     
  8. fred2028

    fred2028 Sexy member

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    Main thing I hate about FF is no URL bar auto-complete unless you tweak it in about:config and remove www. from URLs. Like if in my history I had YouTube - Broadcast Yourself., typing you would not auto-complete unless I had youtube.ca as well. Chrome forever now
     
  9. icehell

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    i turend off automatic update because i have not used internet explorer even i had installed ie9 since 3 months ago.
    then i update it today and found it much faster than before and does not lag in pages as firefox which also have problem with adobe flash player which need manual update otherwise my laptop was hang only for firefox!!!thought my vga card old now!!!
    also the new feature of ie9 to make icon for your favortie site and pin in your taskbar.
     
  10. nu_D

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    Where are these people you're talking about? It's as if you're speaking for every power user on the internet. You got a link showing that over 50% of power users are forced to abandon Firefox because it's so horrible? Heck, what 50%. According to you it's more like 99%.

    Or how about this: there's nothing wrong with Firefox on my system! I mean this is absolutely ridiculous. You leave absolutely nothing in the realm of possibility that a heavy advanced user would be fine with Firefox. While you are entrenched in your position that I am retarded and/or don't use the internet besides to access Google, I don't dismiss that you have your issues with Firefox. That's fine. I personally have tons of tabs opened, compared Firefox and Chrome to hell and back, and decided to use Firefox. Now, granted, I don't keep my laptop running without a restart for 9 years, so maybe we differ there.

    That IE is better than Firefox? REALLY? THAT is the conclusion the world has come to? This is well known to many? When was this decided? Where? I must have missed the memo. Maybe it was posted on the internet bulletin board. Oh, wait, I think I heard about it on CNN. Something about a UN resolution passing stating that IE is better than Firefox.

    Do me a favor, and relax with the generalizations. Firefox doesn't work for you. Great. Not a problem whatsoever. But to say that it doesn't work for ANY SINGLE PERSON that's a power user, that's... bordering on the realm of stupidity and arrogance.
     
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    Dude... chill out. Download another addon and relax. Next time you have some free time - do some research - you can only benefit from one it seems...
    As I said without meaning to offend you - only because you don't (yet) realize something, doesn't mean it is not existent! It just means you haven't come to the point to be able to see and register it.

    Firefox is still an awesome browser, but it's widely known (obviously yourself not included) for its performance and stability issues that started with FF 4 if I am not mistaken. I am not the one to say whether the majority of users know, realize or feel it, but those who do, know what they are talking about and somehow we are all talking about the same issues. How many complain? Less and less.... as Chrome, IE and Opera users' group expand for obvious reasons. This very thread is one small example.
     
  12. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    I haven't really used Firefox in ages, so I don't know. I know IE and Chrome are perfectly fast for me.


    Also, I'm always amazed by Gracy's ability to talk down to people while insisting that she's not.
     
  13. nu_D

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    And obviously my point hasn't gotten across.

    And only because you think you realize something, doesn't mean it exists for every single person.

    More of the generalized statements. It's widely known is it? Proof?

    No, you are the one who is saying the majority of the users "know." You keep saying "everyone" and "widely known."

    Maybe not many complain because not many have such startling issues that they are literally "forced" to switch as opposed to your mass exodus theory.

    Here's PCMag's conclusion on Firefox 8:

    "Bottom Line
    Firefox remains a lean, fast, compatible, customizable browser that can hold its own against any competitor, especially with its graphics hardware acceleration and improved memory use and startup time."

    You should send them an e-mail telling them how they "don't realize" Firefox sucks.

    I had a singular point: while you may find Firefox to be horrible, that doesn't mean every single person finds it horrible. But alas, you seem stuck on the point that if you find something to be bad, then it must be bad, and bad for everyone. And if you want to qualify that by stating it only holds true for heavy users, my statement applies to the qualified statement as well.

    Anyway whatever. If I'm the last person in the world who is using Firefox, so be it. I like it.

    Enjoy Opera. ;)
     
  14. Gracy123

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    How does the above contradict with:
    Where is it that I am saying it has to be bad for everyone!? Just the opposite - there are many who just never come to the point where it all reveals, you are one of them and that's perfectly fine :) Obviously you don't see and realize something me and many others do!! That's the whole point and you just keep spinning it around in a way that "just because you find something bad, doesn't mean everyone does" :D :D :D Isn't this exactly what I am saying? :D :D
    Or in this fashion, should I now say " While you may find FF terrific, that doesn't mean every single person finds it terrific. But you seem to be stuck on the point that if you don't see defects and bugs, there aren't any!"
    Now turn it around one more time :D
    Fact is - to MANY (not all obviously), FF is a bad choice performance- and stability-wise.

    And where are those people like me?? How about you start with the author and play around with google (it still works fine on FF, you can do that). I am not going to invest time in something you are tremendously biased towards. Just look for:
    • Firefox Flash problems
    • Firefox scrolling lag
    • Firefox laggy
    • Firefox pagefile usage
    • Firefox flash only when moving cursor
    • etc. etc.

      Have a good day :)





     
  15. Gracy123

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    I never said the above indeed :) Just the opposite - that each browser has its pros and cons, incl FF. That's why I almost always use 2-3 browsers simultaneously - Opera, IE9 and FF - Opera as a main browser for the "heavy" tasks FF is just too laggy or lets say immature and inefficient to deal with, IE for OWA and sometimes FF for some of the addons not available elsewhere.
    But yes, the memory problems (not only extensive RAM usage, but also intrusive caching, pagefile usage, etc. etc.) as well as compatibility issues with Flash bake a very nice performance-stability pie, ESPECIALLY when used intensively and continuously - something not that many users do, that's why I am saying it is perfectly normal for some to see nothing wrong (which doesn't mean there isn't :) )
     
  16. Hungry Man

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    In terms of performance all browsers have gotten very close to each other. In only the heaviest javascript tests will you see any difference (in this case Chrome pulls ahead) but for any real world test they will all score very nearly the same. The only thing that pulls them ahead anymore in terms of performance are their features ie: Firefox has its cache in RAM, Chrome prerenders a ton of stuff, Opera has turbo.

    At this point just choose the browser you want based on features, extensions, or whatever else because performance has been neck and neck for months.
     
  17. Marecki_clf

    Marecki_clf Homo laptopicus

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    Maybe the PC You're using is not powerful enough to run a Web browser... ;-)
     
  18. Gracy123

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    Yes, that might be the reason... all pcs I use are just not powerful enough for web browsing with FF :D

    Joke aside, it was actually FF that made me upgrade RAM, before I realized this is a stupid solution to an absurd software problem :D
     
  19. RWUK

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    These anti-firefox threads are genuinely entertaining and ironically, have lately become a lot more common on here. However, they still haven't reached the birth rate of the "which antivirus is best?" threads so let's put in a little more effort, ok people?
     
  20. Geekz

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    Firefox does seem bloated compared to chrome, starts up a bit slower but when it's already running it's performance is as good as the other browsers (unless you have a ton of addons running).

    Doesn't really matter though as it's great we have choices to choose from.

    Anyone else remembers the days of IE vs netscape?



    Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk
     
  21. Gracy123

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    And you find that fortuitously ...? ;) There is a clear reason for that ;)

    Of course :) People like me who still remember the "Eudora" email revolution too ;)))
     
  22. Geekz

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    Rofl, nothing beats Eudora lite lol.

    Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk
     
  23. Kdawgca

    Kdawgca rotaredoM repudrepuS RBN

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    Yeah...we are done here. If you guys have time to bickering, then you have time to help other people with their holiday purchases.