Is Vista the catalyst of Annoyware

After moving from XP to Vista I noticed a big jump in the quality of annoyware, you cant even read text anymore using you mouse pointer as a guide without triggering a huge 2/3rd page of high quality in your face advertizing, I noticed in XP all this stuff but it seems Vista has enhanced this in a huge way, the advertising is getting bigger better higher quality intrusive and completely annoying , a-lot of this is happening with Macromedia Flash and so on with the other active x or plug-ins, after reading x26’s post about windows live popups , I came to the conclusion Im not the only one pissed at this crap, I do understand advertising but I also understand the difference being advertised too and being annoyed, and with Vista’s architecture it looks like its going to get worse, whether you use cookie controls, popup blockers or anything else its a constant battle for the users, I myself am going to start backtracking and having a closer look at Vista and see what can be done, I invite anybody else who has had enough of this crap to post their ideas and knowledge on how to minimize this annoyance.

 

Every once in a while, it's nice to use a period. Just a thought.

 

Wall of text!
I've also never heard anyone call it annoyware before, interesting name.
I've never used Vista so I don't know big this issue is (though this is the first post I've read about it). Random spyware pop-ups do happen in XP but they're pretty rare (for me anyway) and I don't see why they'd be that much worse with Vista. I assume you tried cleaning your computer of all the spyware (by running a few anti-spyware programs)?

 

What does ANY of this have to do with Vista?

Gary

 

It has a-lot of things to do with Vista, you can start with what MS calls their partnership program, thus alowing certain software companies limited access to their source code thus giving them some architectural knowlage of windows code, after you know that, the company can almost get in your face anytime, anyplace with what they have to offer.

P.S this has notthing to do with spyware.

 

I think it has nothing to do with vista and more of your computer habits. Using firefox/opera and having good spyware and adware protection I have had none of the problems that you have listed. Actually this is the first time I've ever heard anyone say vista is causing spyware/adware problems.

 

He's not talking about spyware or adware, I don't think. He seems to be talking about a feature I'd heard of in Vista, but didnt' realize was implemented yet, where MS' parterners can advertise anywhere in the OS, not just the web browser.

 

I see. This is new to me.
sickpuppy, you should post some screenshots of the issue to give us all a better understanding.

 

This is not a screenshot thing, Im sure everyone is running into the same thing, here is an example, lets say Macromedia is a MS partner, we all know Macromedia software and arcitecture is used in many websites, many websites who have built in Macromedia require the browser connecting to that site has a Macromedia plugin or active x control or you dont see much, Macromedia software lets you pronounce and control your site anyway you want, if the site wants to plop a full page ad when it wants, it can, by having access to some Vista source code, you can enhance, speed up or anything else someone can dream of, windows live will pop up on a windows live enhanced site and so on, and you cant get away from it by using a different browser and this stuff is going to get bigger and from what Ive heard, the talk is there for advertising in the os.

 

Seriously, I'm not even kidding now. Periods are your friend.

 

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Never had this happen ever. I think it's just you

 

Yeah me either. I assumed by annoyware he meant spyware/adware causing all the pop ups and such. No advertising here or anywhere. Unless your load which may be why they are targeting you.

 

odin, rather he seems to be talking about brower ad-ware.. like intelliTXT and stuff..

vista has no direct hand in it.. blame the marketing guys for that..

 

What's "spoaces?"

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IE used to be so worthless I'd reverse the zones such that the unknown zone was setup completely restricted so that nothing could run, including scripts, and the restriced zone was setup with more freedoms, including scripts. Sites I needed the extra features were thrown into the restricted zone. Man, what a teadious pain! Miss one letter typing in a popular website address, hit enter, and it was popup take over. Thanks, Microsoft, for taking years to implement popup management.

I find it kinda disheartening to think MS might be or is building in some feature like this. They just produced their first usable browser with IE7. Lack of IE7 is the only thing I don't like about using W2K. It'd be a shame to see them turn it around and screw it up. Thanks, Microsoft, for implementing a workaround to your own popup management.

 

Rep for reading it!

 

Great points...
We need a lot more awareness or we are ALL going to wake-up buried in a sea of Adware, Banner Ads and pop-ups...

 

Bingo!!

Solution:

Add: http://*.us.intellitxt.com to your restricted sites in IE...

If anyone wants to see what the prob is go to: howardforums.com and watch out and be careful and get home alive...

 

IntelliTXT founder fields questions about whether contextual keyword ads cross the editorial-advertising line -- even if users like them.

 

Very effective! One ad bot destroyed, at least until Microsoft finds out and puts in a critical update to work around it. It be their ads we're destroying

 

Browser adverts have NOTHING to do with Vista.

 

But they are advertising their Windows Live through IntelliTXT, hence my critical update joke.

 

Not to mention black helicopters flying over head and communists under our beads. Eek, indeed!

Gary

 

OH NOES! The communists cometh!

 

It has alot to do with Vista, go to Ms partnership and MS tech net sites and they will tell you exactly what you can do if you give them a ton of money, its got nothing to do with commies conspiracies or black helicopters, a good example is, alot of porn sites have paid to get into the club and porn sites are on the cutting edge of this technology and everyboy knows what they can do.

 

This topic confuses me...
I'm not even sure what we're talking about...
Are we talking about IntelliTXT?
How is this Vista's fault?
Porn sites paid to get into the club? What club? Cutting edge of what technology? I don't know what they can do.
What was the point of this topic in the first place?

 

No, it still has nothing to do with Vista! It doesn't matter what partnerships Microsoft have made, the flash based adverts you describe are still just as prevalent in XP and other browsers. Until I get pop-ups for porn when I'm taking notes in class and not connected to the internet I can't see your point. Advertising on computers will become more advanced with more powerful mean hardware and the move to web 2.0 - Vista has had nothing to do with more adverts in web browsers despite any partnerships Microsoft may have made.

Pop-ups were a problem back in XP and will continue to be in Vista. Companies need a way of marketing their products and simply because more companies are using fancy flash based internet marketing does not equate to Vista allowing this to happen or encouraging it.

 

I think Flash may reach a critical point where people will just remove or disable it. I didn't mind intelliTXT at first. In fact, most times I still don't. But every now and again it's a pain. Flash is the same way until it's abused.

 

It has nothing to do with Vista.

 

From the sounds of it, it seems that this could be solved by using another internet browser like firefox. That's what I use and don't have any of the problems mentioned above.

 

If you use firefox, install the ad-block plus plugin with the filterset.g updater. No more ads!!

 

WOW what a response, ok lets change the argument just a touch, the company I work at makes cars (dont ask who, they toll sites and its not good for business) , our adverising people are in the partenership. technet and what ever else there is, so dropping big money in not really a problem, they want to get in your face and sell you a car, no problem, it keeps me employed, but myself personaly, I have a problem being nagged by advertisers repetitively, I was reading some of the partnership and tech things, and from what I know personaly about software and the business, from what I was reading, if they wanted to put a car in front of your face, they can do it regardless if you wanted to see it or not. (hey period guy you happy now...... just joking)
Moving right along, are your still using XP, because a wonderfull thing called a areo enhanced websites are going to be on the way, not only do you need Vista, you are going need a ton of power just to see the website, so dont tell me about black helicopters, we are all going pay to play.

 

Vista is just so-so to me. Annoying? Probably. But i've paid for my software and i'll try using it until the day it break.

 

It's a web browser, that's all. Look at the code. Even better, post the link to this magical suspect website you refer to so we can review the code to further debunk your theory. If it's not in standard issue code, and the tags aren't documented by Microsoft or plug-in features aren't documented by the plug-in company, then you may be onto something......but you're not.

 

I'm sorry but I'm not too sure what your on about now, and I don't think you are either to be honest. I've certainly not heard of anything such as "Aero" enhanced websites and now your post is beginning to look more like a desperate excuse to bash Vista and Microsoft whichever way possible. The truth of it is that web design will always improve as greater hardware becomes available and this is no different. Do you think a PII based computer could happily run the browsers of today with their embedded multimedia, flash and countless add-ons?

Until you can show us these offending websites stop using this thread as an excuse to troll and bash.

"I have a problem being nagged by advertisers repetitively"

Thats slightly ironic coming from a sales assistant.

 

This really makes my head hurt!

 

No offence but I find all your posts hard to read and confusing.
I seriously still have no idea how this is Microsoft/Vista's fault (never heard of aero enhanced websites) and I still don't know what message you're trying to convey (if any).

You used three (3) periods in that entire post (no that wasn't enough). Your posts are confusing and hard to read and your ideas seem to be all over the place. You seriously need to learn how to communicate your point (if you even have one).

 

How to Use English Punctuation Correctly

Oh and breaking a wall of text into paragraphs helps as well.

At least some people may learn something from this thread at the end

 

Yeah, but unfortunately most likely NOT the one who needs to.

I am learning where the ignore button is!

Gary

 

I shall name it annoygraph!

 

Your posts are ridiculous The popups at howard forums have nothing to do with vista or ie 6 or 7 matter of fact firefox and opera show the same types of ads over at howard forums I don't go to howard forums anymore due to the ads I m amazed at some of the stuff I read on forums next they will be saying that vista is responsible for iraq Yea I highly recommend people to not install flash in their main browser I use two browsers one for general cruisin and one for flash stuff works out fine for me

At any rate you really should post some proof of what you are talking about instead of making what seems like false accusations

 

Ads, such as http://*.us.intellitxt.com/ and others are completely the choice of the website and have nothing to do with browsers, operating systems, firewalls, antivirus, or anything else. They are implemented, by the website, as a revenue source to help offset the costs of providing the website to you.

I personally run Firefox with the AdBlockPlus add-on (with the EasyList(USA) subscription with additional entries (such as hitbox.com and intellitxt.com)) and I also run the FlashBlock add-on.

 

I'm not understanding what the problem is.

 

Neither does the OP.:laugh:

 

Or anyone else in this topic as far as I can see.

 

that is because you are one sick puppy.