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    Java and XP

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Diver_Down, Dec 4, 2008.

  1. Diver_Down

    Diver_Down Notebook Guru

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    I've been mulling over this for quite a while now.

    I was just thinking whether I should install Java 6 update 10 on my laptop. Normally I would, but I've read somewhere that this version comes with more than your usual changes - be it additional bloat or the auto-replace upgrade feature. Anyway, I've been using the next most recent update (#7) without any problems ... so, unless websites decide to accomodate the new version's features, do you guys think that I should jump into this bandwagon?
     
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  2. stewie

    stewie What the deuce?

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    stewie, Dec 4, 2008
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    stewie What the deuce?

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    For the record, I had been using Java 6 update 10 for a while, no problem at all.
     
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    Personally I believe that Java6upd10 is a big improvement from previous version. And as Stewie mentioned, 11 just came out, a definite installation for XP.

    cheers ...
     
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    Hahahahaha! Without knowing it, I've downloaded the offline version of Update 11 from the site just before creating this thread.

    Ok, I'll push through with the upgrade. Thanks!
     
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    As have I, not that I'd know about a Java problem if I had one. LOL...

    Added: I have jusched.exe unticked

    Added II Just installed 11
     
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    Java 10 (and 11) has an extra process (jqs - java quick start). Untick the jusched as mentioned above, but leave this jqs alone ... you'd be pleasantly surprised.

    cheers ...
     
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    Make sure you manually uninstall the previous version(s), because the "upgrade" doesn't do that and your system will end up having multiple java installations, which isn't a problem, but there is no need for the older versions, unless some java apps require them.

    Good advice.
     
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    Whats the benefit of leaving JQS active?
     
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    ^^ extracted from Sun Java changelog:

    "JavaTM Quick Starter

    Java Quick Starter (JQS) improves the initial startup time of Java applets and applications by periodically prefetching some of the most heavily used Java Runtime Environment files into memory (occupying no more than 20Mb of RAM). Later, when Java is launched, much less disk I/O is required and as a result, startup is much faster.

    JQS is enabled by default in the Windows 2000 and Windows XP operating systems running on x86 (IA-32) or compatible hardware. It is turned off in Windows Vista because Windows Vista offers its own preloading mechanisms. When fully enabled, JQS runs as a Windows service called Java Quick Starter. The Task Manager shows a jqs.exe process.

    The JQS service will perform runtime checks to determine if the system is running on battery power. If so, prefetching will be suspended until AC power is restored. This scenario is most common on laptop PCs."

    cheers ...
     
    qhn, Dec 6, 2008
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    Actually, I disabled JQS in XP, and that option is grayed out in Vista.
     
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    I actually disabled JQS, thinking that it was like reader_sl. I mean is it really that significant?

    Thanks for the jusched tip, by the way.
     
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  13. stewie

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    It's kinda like reader_sl, but honestly, it doesn't make a significant difference with a C2D CPU, so I disabled it.

    By the way, about the jusched, even if you disable it from the Control Panel, there is still an entry in the startup registry. You can use msconfig to prevent it from loading on startup, or delete the entry completely from the registry like I did.
     
    stewie, Dec 6, 2008
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