Just had chance to see Vista

Until today I had never seen what Vista is like. Now by chance I have seen it. Haven't explored much yet, but it seems to me it is too fancy, too attention-diverting, even though it has more features than XP that may be useful. I guess for someone who don't play games etc. the no-frill XP would be more suitable.

 

And the point of this thread?

 

Agree - pointless we have had too many XP / Vista arguments (search the forum).
And now we have Windows 7 too.

I'll just report this.

 

No-frills XP? What is wrong with you? Don't you see the START menu, the ghastly "windows" that programs run in. The horrid GUI that's an abomination to your eyes?

Want real no-frills? Come and join me with my amazing command line only interface. Green monospace text on a black background - it's the only way to go. Want to do word processing? Easy. Only 104 keystrokes to open Notepad. Learn what no-frills is before you start spouting nonsense.

 

I found this awesome new OS.

It boots up really fast, no bloat!

 

LOL? This thread about Vista sucks and XP ownage?
Personally, I do not agree with it even a lot of people say XP is better than Vista. I find it is not.
XP = Security Holes King, Less features, Buggy, DirectX 9.
Vista = Good Security, More features, less bugs, and DirectX 10(will be 11 in the future). The downside is it is heavy resources which can be tweaked to lower it down.
7 = Good security, more features, less resources and bugs and DirectX 11.

Fancy? No. Do you know what is design and art? Attraction and eye catching are needed.
Imagine you play something like GTA4 or GRID which has been modify into super ugly lousy graphic mode.
For example:
GRID with lousy graphic mode(everything is boxes only, no design, no texture, no depth). The games still run the same, the drifting, the control, the brake, the acceleration and so on. You're controlling a simple BOX on a PLAIN GROUND. You definitely quit the games. LOL.

 

Do you live under a rock? How can you just NOW be seeing Vista?

 

Lol, that's what I was thinking.

 

Oh my God, didn't expect it to generate such an overwhelming response Yes, I am talking to you from a cave

Just a quick question if anyone cares to inform me, is Windows 7 also like Windows Vista in the above aspect I mentioned? I think I'd bypass Vista and may take windows 7 if it's nice. Thanks

 

The most basic explanation of Win7.

Same core components as Vista, but tidied up and optimized a bit.
New GUI

Yes, Win7 is better than Vista - but if Vista runs well for you there is no need to upgrade an existing computer.

 

I think OP heard some friends or people said Vista sucks.
Just like my area, the Computer Shop workers are all dumbed. They learn so much Computer stuffs. They offer Pirated Windows Installation(about 8 USD). But they're genuine stupid. They don't know how exactly is Vista works(they did use Vista on some of their machines but when the customer wants to install Vista they will said NO, Vista sucks).
Now, Windows 7 already. They're still working on Windows XP. So, they spread wrong information and I am sick of it. =.=!

I agreed with DetlevCM.

 

Report them to Microsoft - you may get a thank you. (thinking this may happen as its a business pirating, not just a person "sharing")

 

They didn't show it(pirated) obviously on the shop.
When you come to them, they will only tell you. They did sell genuine Windows of course. In addition, my country = almost everywhere also same as this. It is pointless to inform MS and they can wipe-up all evidences as well. Just that my area is quite dumbed with the XP > Vista and 7.

 

Thank you. Is Windows 7 as "fancy" and "attention-diverting" as Vista? (I know you don't think it's so, but just as you understand what I mean--too many extra features for me; I don't mean the power, just the interface etc)

 

What's the difference in this rich interface with users putting themes and all sort of candy apps front-end on XP?

There are ways to show the XP look for many users, should they choose it.

cheers ...

 

you could use Windows Classic themes, but i really pity the Windows GUI designers who worked so hard, only to see people throw it away in favor of something thats older than the 21st century.

 

xp is obsolete
thread close

 

I've only used Win7 a short time - I couldn't really be bothered to figure out how to make some things work on my Vaio.

The interface is more "fancy" than Vista - the question is, is it bad?

To be honest, when my mother had Vista Home Premium on her laptop and I had XP, I disliked Vista and was contemplating XP for my Vaio (got downgrade rights).
But I got used to Vista very quickly, really like it and now shudder when I see it.
I'm a slow adopter of changes - but if you really use the features they give you, it does speed things up. For example, leave indexing on, and if you want paint for that screenshot you just took - just hit the start menu key, type paint and hit enter - voila.
It works with any other software too.

The only thing with Vista was that initial PCs weren't powerful enough and pre SP1 it had a few problems...

And security also improved

I really recommend you use Win7 on whatever computer you buy next - or if your's was originally Vita to upgrade to one of the Win7 versions.

I personally won't change to Win7 - I have a disc and license - Student with MSDN AA access - due to those Fn keys that Sony messed up.
But I would still recoomend it

 

Thank you DetlevCM for sharing your experience. Thanks for others for chiming in

 

You won't like Windows 7. It is too fancy, too attention-diverting, even though it has more features than XP, er, Vista that may be useful. I guess for someone who don't play games etc. the no-frill XP, er, Vista would be more suitable.

 

er, I can't figure out, er, if you are being serious or, er, joking?

 

Why not go take a look at screenshots yourself? Is that it that hard to do? Read some RTM reviews on it too as well...

 

This is the dumbest thread ever. OP has never seen an OS that is over 3 years old, thinks it's too fancy, still living in 2001 with xp, and now realized that there is win 7 already and he had missed a generation? I have never used vista as my primary OS (Dual-booting 7 and vista now) and but intelligence level needed to operate XP is more than enough to breeze through vista.

 

You get GREEN text? I'm jealous...

 

ditto!!

Vista is obsolete now with Windows 7 out....and he's still just heard of Vista?? where have u been d00d

 

This is the smartest post ever.

Been in iraq...

 

They have computers in Iraq. They also have internet, and Google, and probably access to Youtube. These resources could have given you a lot of information, even while you were there.

If you've been out of the loop for a legitimate reason, you have to tell the people you're talking to. Of course from your original post none of this makes sense. I thought this was a dug up thread from 2006 or something. Preface your posts with "I've been in Iraq without access to modern technology so help me out here" or something, if you haven't already resorted to the passive means of information gathering I already mentioned.

For the record, a guy I worked with was in Iraq, and he took his laptop from the US over with him. It took some residual damage from an IED that went off near where he was standing. It wasn't something as awesome as "this laptop saved my life!" but it did reduce the amount of shrapnel he may have otherwise taken. That laptop was a mess, but still worked. He had Vista. I put Win7 on it for him. 8)

 

That's probably the guy I met in Iraq. He was about to show me the Vista when the explosion happened. I never saw him again, so I didn't get to see Vista. Glad he made his way back to the US safely

 

Such hostility in the forums recently. I don't get it.

Some people are better educated by reading webpage after webpage of reviews. That is because they know exactly what they want and what they need.

Some people are better off consulting someone with more experience. That is the point of this thread. Seriously people. We need to quit acting like A-holes and start acting like adults. Such a seemingly well mannered thread starter deserves THIS hostile response??

just because someone mentions XP, it doesn't mean the thread will degenerate to a Vista v 7 v XP thread. /sigh

To actually answer the guy's question and you know, stay on topic, I ask a few things:

• Are you thinking about buying a new laptop with Windows 7 on it?
• What kind of tasks do you see yourself running?
• Most importantly, what current applications do you run? This is important because we should assees whether application compatibility will become a significant issue.

 

Thank you very much surfasb--just repped you. Finally saw a grown-up here . Some seem to be too obsessed with Vista

To answer your questions:

• Are you thinking about buying a new laptop with Windows 7 on it?
  
  Not really: I have just bought a new laptop. It was on XP, but after sending for repair, the tech wrongly loaded it with Vista. I called and was told to send it back. As I wait for shipping it back, I had time to take a look at Vista (all my laptops are on XP, so are the ones I use in libraries, so I never got to run Vista though have read much about it).
  
  What prompted me to post this thread was that I was having second thought whether I should have XP re-loaded or simply keep Vista and save the hassle.
  
  
• What kind of tasks do you see yourself running?
  
  Pretty usual: web browsing (including youtube), office tasks, music and photos, occasional videos/movies, little programming. Never games or other high demanding tasks.
  
  
• Most importantly, what current applications do you run? This is important because we should assees whether application compatibility will become a significant issue.
  
  MS office, wordperfect, adobe photo, ... pretty limited.

 

If you have to ask, you don't need to know.

Gary

 

You probably won't see ground breaking value with Vista.

IMO, the biggest changes are to the taskbar. You get thumbnails of the windows you hover over in the taskbar and also when you hit Alt-tab you get similar thumbnails.

There is also a built in search entry box into the start menu that people like to use. You type in the name of the program or document you want to pull up and it takes a couple of seconds to search for it. Some people prefer flipping and scrolling through the menus. If you are like me, you prefer typing it out.

If you didn't have any serious issues with XP, I'd stick with it for a while and move to Vista (or Windows 7) on your own.

Edit:

BTW, I just saw Wordperfect in there. I don't know anyone with that program so I can't comment on that program. ALL the other programs will run the same on Vista versus XP.

 

Thanks. I just found this statement from corel web site:

"Corel will not be releasing compliance updates for Windows VISTA for legacy versions of WordPerfect (version 12 or lower). Earlier versions are expected to run on this new operating system, but users may encounter product incompatibility with the new operating system and should consider upgrading at their earliest opportunity. For information about the most current version of WordPerfect, visit www.wordperfect.com."

Looks like I may encounter problem since I have older version.

So I agree with you, I probably won't gain much by switching to Vista. Maybe Windows 7 or even newer OS will be where I'm heading.

 

i say it not worth the hassle to downgrade back to XP if your PC can handle Vista fine. If it looks to fancy simply change the theme to Vista basic which i like more the Aero. Also if you do indeed still have Vista mess around with wordperfect abit and see if any problems arise. BTW that seems like a really old statment from corel since its talking about Vista being new so they might have released updates since(worth a try atleast)

 

If you'd decide to continue using Vista, Corel has released updates/patches for WordPerfect Office X3 and Office X4 to play nice with Vista.
Here is a link to the standalone installer webpage for X3 link.
Perhaps easier to use is the Corel Product Update Advisor as described on this page.