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    LONG boot up time

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by idiotpilot, Dec 15, 2009.

  1. idiotpilot

    idiotpilot Notebook Evangelist

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    So, i recently just put together the laptop in my signature and installed windows 7 ultimate 32 bit on it. the hard drive i put in it was used in my old gateway laptop which i had for a year. I wiped the data using a bios based program and installed the OS. Everything loads up quickly until i get to the animated windows screen where is says "starting windows". It stalls there for about 3 minutes and then loads up. any idea as to what is causing this?
     
  2. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

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    Are you sure that your hardrive is OK ?
    Does it make any noice ? (Which dosn't sound normal?)
     
  3. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    START, right click COMPUTER, choose MANAGE

    Click EVENT VIEWER > APPLICATION AND SERVICE LOGS > MICROSOFT > WINDOWS >DIAGNOSTICS-PERFORMANCE.

    Scroll through the warnings and errors and report back what you found if you cannot figure it out. There should be one or more "XXXX took longer than expected to start...." messages.
     
  4. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    That's one way, or try looking at the diagnostics tool built into the OS - that has an option to view the event manager and takes you there too :)
    (see my sig)
     
  5. n0elia

    n0elia Come on Haswell...

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    Or try defragmenting the boot files?

    I'm using PerfectDisk 10 <- it's perfect :D
     
  6. grbac

    grbac Notebook Deity

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    I don't think defragmenting boot files will help. Try what two guys above wrote, diagnostic will probably help you.
     
  7. Deks

    Deks Notebook Prophet

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    Have you tried disabling networking devices startup in BIOS?
    I think this may increase boot times significantly on some laptops if left on.
     
  8. idiotpilot

    idiotpilot Notebook Evangelist

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    Yep, im getting A LOT of critical errors pertaining to boot peformance. ill paste a couple for you.

    Windows has started up:
    Boot Duration : 153718ms
    IsDegradation : false
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2009‎-‎12‎-‎15T23:11:43.624800200Z

    Windows has started up:
    Boot Duration : 157919ms
    IsDegradation : false
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2009‎-‎12‎-‎15T17:37:27.624800200Z

    Windows has started up:
    Boot Duration : 159159ms
    IsDegradation : false
    Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2009‎-‎12‎-‎12T04:08:13.624800200Z

    There is NO hard drive activity whatsoever for about two minutes, then once my hard drive activity indicator lights up, the OS boots up immediately.
     
  9. idiotpilot

    idiotpilot Notebook Evangelist

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    I was thinking this was a possibility as the hard drive im using wasn't wiped properly until i needed to install the OS on it in my new computer. I am familiar with perfect disk and will defragment the boot files and get back to you with the results.
     
  10. idiotpilot

    idiotpilot Notebook Evangelist

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    boot file dfragmentation did not help.
     
  11. weinter

    weinter /dev/null

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    1)Go to Control Panel >> Admin Tools >> Event Viewer
    See if there are any critical errors
    I suspect Harddisk Issue as Driver and Service load timeouts should be rather short.
    If it is harddisk issue as said download the Western Digital CD DOS iso and boot from it to scan your Harddisk.
     
  12. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Sounds a bit like the boot time on my HDD before I went SSD...

    What's your Anti virus software? I found that sadly KIS 2010 is a mess and impacts boot times...
     
  13. idiotpilot

    idiotpilot Notebook Evangelist

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    i pasted some critical messages on the last page relating to my boot performance. where can i get the western digital iso at?

    Right now im using avast home, but it was loading slow even before i installed an anti virus.


    Like I stated earlier, on the "starting windows" load screen, it sits there for about 2 minutes with no hard drive activity and once my hard drive activity indicator shows, it boots up almost immediately. I really doubt that it's software causing it, as it takes literally 2-3 minutes to boot up. my computer is brand new and it has high end components.
     
  14. idiotpilot

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    BootTsVersion 2
    BootStartTime 2009-12-16T05:45:39.624800200Z
    BootEndTime 2009-12-16T05:49:39.670263600Z
    SystemBootInstance 15
    UserBootInstance 14
    BootTime 181320
    MainPathBootTime 135720
    BootKernelInitTime 25
    BootDriverInitTime 8393
    BootDevicesInitTime 107912
    BootPrefetchInitTime 23153
    BootPrefetchBytes 188473344
    BootAutoChkTime 0
    BootSmssInitTime 6943
    BootCriticalServicesInitTime 764
    BootUserProfileProcessingTime 103
    BootMachineProfileProcessingTime 162
    BootExplorerInitTime 997
    BootNumStartupApps 4
    BootPostBootTime 45600
    BootIsRebootAfterInstall false
    BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits 0
    BootRootCauseGradualImprovementBits 0
    BootRootCauseStepDegradationBits 0
    BootRootCauseGradualDegradationBits 0
    BootIsDegradation false
    BootIsStepDegradation false
    BootIsGradualDegradation false
    BootImprovementDelta 0
    BootDegradationDelta 0
    BootIsRootCauseIdentified false
    OSLoaderDuration 2095
    BootPNPInitStartTimeMS 25
    BootPNPInitDuration 115689
    OtherKernelInitDuration 1938
    SystemPNPInitStartTimeMS 117623
    SystemPNPInitDuration 617
    SessionInitStartTimeMS 118245
    Session0InitDuration 1744
    Session1InitDuration 1509
    SessionInitOtherDuration 3689
    WinLogonStartTimeMS 125189
    OtherLogonInitActivityDuration 9267
    UserLogonWaitDuration 1257


    Here is a detailed log of my most recent boot, as you can see (in bold) the computer seemingly idles at the windows start splash for several minutes.
     
  15. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I think that time is the "sum of all individual times taken" - if its been happening from the start, possibly hardware that responds slowly or a bad driver...
     
  16. idiotpilot

    idiotpilot Notebook Evangelist

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    K, so i ran the western digital lifeguard scanner and it stopped immediately with an error code that says "Cable test::Write sector error". = /
     
  17. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    OK.... "write sector error" - did you google it, sounds like disc damage to me?
     
  18. idiotpilot

    idiotpilot Notebook Evangelist

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    Didn't come to any conclusions about it. Anyone have any ideas?
     
  19. tuηay

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    disable/remove all hw components that you can. bluetooth. wireless. lan. webcam. etc. in the bios at best.

    and see if it boots faster then.

    if it's slow withOUT the disk light glowing for a long time, it's the initialisation of some hw taking long.

    my desktop took > 2min to start vista, on a raid0 with two ssds. i got angry as my subnotebook took around 40sec with a single ssd, and a quarter of the cpu power (and half the ram).

    i opened the desktop, and took anything off the mainboard i could (cardreader, additional usb ports, infrared receiver, etc etc).

    after doing so, it booted in less than 30 secs.


    i never plugged in the hw again :)
     
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    Did you use this Data Lifeguard Diagnostic for DOS (CD)?
     
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    Windows one is useless because it runs in Windows there is a lot of things it can no longer do.
    So download the one for DOS burn it as an image and boot from it.