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    List your IE8 Problems

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Kurat, Mar 21, 2009.

  1. Thibault

    Thibault Banned

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    None. IE wasn't even opened.
    If I took a screenshot of it back then, you wouldn't think that IE was open (wouldn't be showing in the menu bar), but looking at the task manager you would see multiple iexplorer.exe running.
     
  2. coolguy

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    That's superfetch pre-loading iexplore.exe into memory. I also had multiple instances of iexplore.exe in task manager.
    If you have UAC enabled it will add up a couple of processes.
     
  3. Thibault

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    Isn't that a Vista feature? I run Windows XP Home edition.
     
  4. gonwk

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    So are you folks suggesting NOT to upgrade from IE7 to IE8?

    If so, Why!?!?

    Yahoo keep prompting me to install IE8 ... it claims to be "Safer".

    Thanks,

    G! :)
     
  5. coolguy

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    IE 8 is faster, safer, and more productive than IE 7.
     
  6. S.SubZero

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    Superfetch does not load things directly into RAM. They get loaded into cache. Things in cache do not appear in task manager's process list.
     
  7. nsgze

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    for those having problem with cookies and passwords, it is happening after deleting the 'Low' folder from you temp dir.. just simply ceate back an empty folder and it should be fine
     
  8. lineS of flight

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    Hmmm...how does this folder get deleted in the first place? I have not deleted such a folder.
     
  9. HI DesertNM

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    One problem I had is that some buttons would not show correctly. For example, the summit button on google.com would be tiny and you could not read it. To fix, I had to go to tools/options/advanced and uncheck the visual styles under browsing. It makes these visuals work but more basic looking. The other issue I see is that the smooth scrolling feature makes things more jumpy and less smooth when scrolling. Again, I disabled that too in the advanced options. Compared to FF, the scrolling is still not as nice. The other major gripe is no spell check. Are there any third party plugins that will work on IE 8 final build that are worth a crap?

    All these issues are on my XP box which is around 7 years old now.

    EDIT, I am using a visual style theme and disabled that and then I enabled the visual styles on buttons in IE8 and now it works.. So IE8 is not compatible with visual styles themes on my machine. I noticed another user on a different forum that had the same issue and he mentioned he was using msstyles so I think there may be conflict here.
     
  10. lineS of flight

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    Yeah...strangely (or maybe not so strangely!) IE8 seems to have a lot more problems when used on an XP box. I am on Vista, I had to uninstall Logitech's Setpoint and then the scrolling was much better - but I had to keep smooth scrolling enabled on IE8. Without it, IE8 was almost impossible to use.
     
  11. HI DesertNM

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    Well, in my case the msstyles theme required a registry change to enable so I don't really fault MS for that. After all, it modified a dll file to make it work. I can't stand the default XP themes so I am using the MS zune theme which is a nice compromise for a darker theme. Its more like a dark brown and wish it were truly black but oh well. If I could just find a decent IE 8 spell checker I think IE 8 would be a worthy alternative. Also a chatzilla type of extension would also be nice as other poster mentioned. The bottom line is many people will never adopt to IE no matter how good the base browser is unless they open up more third party extensions like in FF.
     
  12. lineS of flight

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    At the risk of going OT, if you like the Zune theme, you may want to also try the Royale Noir theme, in my opinion, it is better than the Zune one.

    One would hope, MS now starts with periodic updates to IE8 and not only in the security department. If after their IE6 & 7 fiasco they have not learnt their lesson, they should drown themselves in a cup of bioling hot water!
     
  13. gonwk

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    Hi CoolGuy,

    THANKS man!

    G! :)
     
  14. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    And where do you think "cache" might be?

    Gary
     
  15. HI DesertNM

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    Well, after giving IE 8 about a week of use I have to say its just not there yet. Thanks for the royale noir tip. That seems to be the best theme that works and does not bug out IE 8. But IE8 is just too clunky for me. No matter what I try the scrolling is crap in comparison to FF. No spell check and opening a new tab takes a few seconds whereas in FF it is instant. One only has to use IE for a few days and to go back to FF to see what I mean. Overall, IE lacks in many areas still and the overall effect is dismal IMO. Its better on my faster laptop but I still prefer FF. IE is definitely pretty stable at this point I give it that. And it does open up faster then FF but after that FF is faster in every way.
     
  16. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Scrolling is a smooth as a babies bottom here. New tabs snap open in an instant. Most all of the side by side comparisons posted thus far with actual measurments put IE8 as quicker than FF. Sound like something is amiss on your system. Do you have any IE addin's?

    I feel your pain re: spell check. I use ieSpell which works great, but the word highlighting is broken in IE8.

    Gary
     
  17. HI DesertNM

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    No IE addons. I think its just because its an older desktop (1.6 mhz amd) running XP with only 512 ram. It runs better on my laptop for sure. I just have it on for security since my wife aways prefers IE for some reason.
     
  18. Thaenatos

    Thaenatos Zero Cool

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    Its not firefox :p.

    Honestly I havent even tried it, I guess I should since people at work are asking for it.
     
  19. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Yeah well, in that case (slow, xp, 512k) I can see where it might be a pig.

    Gary
     
  20. coolguy

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    I have issues with scrolling when using the logitech mouse wheel. Scrolling in IE 8 is not as smooth as IE 7 and FF 3 when using the same mouse.
    Also IE 8 eats more RAM when compared to IE 7.
     
  21. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    I use both a mouse wheel and the right side of the touchpad and see zero difference in scrolling between IE7 and IE8. RE: more memory, you bet it does and for good reason. There are now separate tasks for each tab. That is a BIG step forward.

    Gary
     
  22. lineS of flight

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    I may have mentioned it before...if you are using Logitech's Setpoint software, get rid of it, helps with the scrolling. I am using a VX Nano, with Setpoint, it was difficult to use IE8, got rid of Setpoint, much better - could be better, but still a massive improvement.
     
  23. coolguy

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    I am not using set point software. When I scroll using the wheel in some web sites like NBR the page jumps.
     
  24. lineS of flight

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    Yeah sorry, I re-read the post where you mentioned that earlier. One thing I did notice was that on sites with a lot of links - like the NBR page, there is a degree of jerkiness...or are you facign this on all sites?

    Just to give you an example:

    For me the scrolling is relative smooth (I won't compare with Opera 9.64, where the scrolling with and without Setpoint is excellent) on the following sites:

    BBC
    Guardian
    Time
    Wired
    Ars Technica
    Computer World
     
  25. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    That doesn't make any sense. You and I have identical hardware. I wonder why you are having the issue and I am not??? Very odd.

    Gary

    P.S. I am running Vista SP1. What about you?
     
  26. Kurat

    Kurat Notebook Consultant

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    I have successfully crashed IE8 with flash, eventhough each page tab is running in its own proccess, I had 5 tabs open and have brought the who IE8 down, it also looks like a caching problem on top, I you want to throw a flash torture test at IE8, goto the teeny bopper site popcrunch.com and start opening a couple of tabs then click on what ever, Im sure most IE8 users will go down, I you try this test, please report back.
     
  27. DetlevCM

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    If you have flash trouble - get theflash removal tool and reinstal flash.
     
  28. Kurat

    Kurat Notebook Consultant

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    flash is ok for the most, Im looking for problems that could occur in this version.
     
  29. icon007

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    face it IE has never been that geat. just use the other browsers, fox, opera and now chrome
     
  30. DetlevCM

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    No browser is perfect, every one has its flaws.
     
  31. Kurat

    Kurat Notebook Consultant

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    There are many applications and sites that demand IE, which sucks, even my online banking demands IE, since MS has all these things locked up, its acceptable to demand a better product.
    Another problem is MS does not see eye to eye with certain companies such as Adobe.
     
  32. coolguy

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    I am running SP1 too. What mouse are you using? Because I had similar issues at work with the logitech mouse and IE 8 scrolling.
     
  33. ScuderiaConchiglia

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    At home, none. At the office, a Microsoft wireless one with a scroll wheel.

    But the thing is if I use the mouse, the up down arrows, or the slide up and down the right edge of the trackpad gesture, they all scroll smoothly. No hesitation whatsoever.

    Gary
     
  34. alitunay

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    Isn't that a CT scan table?
     
  35. Kurat

    Kurat Notebook Consultant

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    There is IE8 download with a bunch of fixes available on windows update for x64 vista
     
  36. lineS of flight

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    Quick question guys:

    How do I get IE8 to oepn up to a maximized screen - not full screen. Right now when I click on the IE8 icon, it opens up small, I then have to click on the maximize button. I want to be able to click on the icon and have IE8 open in maximized form. I am sure it is something simple, its just that I am a little slow today.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  37. lineS of flight

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    Hmmmm...i just updated, but did not see any updates for IE8...only for Windows Live Services (2 of them)...that's all....

    That being said, IE8 has become even smoother over the past few days...iof course the password problem (at some sites) still remains!
     
  38. coolguy

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    Just open one IE 8 window (no other window/ program open) and resize the border to fit the screen.
    Also you can right click the IE icon in desktop and select Normal/minimized/maximized in the "Run" option.
     
  39. Kurat

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    Sorry forgot to say for x64 vista, its some kind of fixes, going to ms site to read up more.
    Cookie problem remains with new update
     
  40. lineS of flight

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    I tried the first option, but while I could stretch the window to be as big as possible, it is not the maximized.

    As for the second, I don't have a desktop icon - I use object dock. That run option is not there or I am missing it. I did go to All Programs and did what you said, it worked. So, I deleted the dock entry and dragged that icon from the All Programs section...still did not work. Any ideas?

    Edit: Nevermind, I got it. It is possible to do what you said from the Dock itself - dock properties. Thanks!
     
  41. shieber

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    That should work but doesn't with IE8. Regardless of how the Run option is set in an icon/shortcut that loads IE8, it loads from that shortcut/icon Normal instead of Maximized.



     
  42. lineS of flight

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    Errr....it does work...at least it worked for me...
     
  43. fishwhale

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    It crashed when norton antivirus started to scan my whole system. It's really weird because I have 3GB ram and a T8100 processor.. But yeah.. Sometimes weird things happen in vista. That's why I use linux and firefox now :)
     
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    I think weird things happen on all computers.

    I am just thinking - virus scans normally take a lot of resources... so I don't find it surprising that an application crashes when used during a scan.

    I just wonder - you didn't try firefox on Vista during the scan? Just to "try it out"?

    PS: Enjoy Linux!!! (I've got it on my old Medion but have no need for it, my Vaio runs Vista :D and I'm happy with it)

    Edit: This post is badly written... I started ever sentece with an "I"....
     
  45. shieber

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    It might work on some machines but not all. Lots of posts across the web attest to this.

    You can manually set the value of Maximized to "Yes" in registry key

    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Document Windows

    But the effect doesn't stick if you change the Run value of any of the icons then change it back.


     
  46. homstead_us

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    Well I just installed it last night and had no problems with it until today. It wouldnt open a lot of sites, and then it would crash. I had it in compatibility mode as well. I just uninstalled it and now everything works fine.
     
  47. Kurat

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    I finally decided to go back to IE7, although I do like a-lot of things about IE8, there are just to many issues with it, Im going to wait for the fixes and then start using it again.
     
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    It runs perfectly fine for me.... ??? :(

    I think one problem will be that IE8 errors are not uniform and thus will be difficult to patch...

    Also, it seems as if IE8 is more problematic on XP than on Vista...


    I think this thread should have benn separated by OS....
     
  49. Kurat

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    I dont think its uniform either, such in my case, I have upgraded my Eset security suit to V4, where V4 did not show any problems in my "problem reports", but with IE8 there is always a fault, so I have to wait for the Eset people to update their software, and its hard to say what other problems arise as it starts getting harder to track.
     
  50. Michael York

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    Hello everyone,

    This is Mike from the Norton Authorized Support Team.

    Since IE was just recently released, it is compatible with all 2009 Norton products. As long as you have a valid subscription, you are entitled to a free update to the 2009 version, which is highly encouraged. Please NOTE, that while this will update your Norton product to the latest version, it will not extend your subscription.

    To update, please visit the Norton Update Center at the link below.

    Norton Update Center

    When the updated product is installed, launch it, and manually choose "Run LiveUpdate" to ensure you get the latest patches applied. After the update is complete, restart your computer.

    Thanks,
    Mike
     
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