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    LiteOS - Windows 10 Without The Bloatware (Multiple Editions)

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Clamibot, Dec 20, 2020.

  1. Clamibot

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    Hey everyone! I just wanted to report on an interesting discovery I made today. I don't know if any of you have seen this before, but today I came across an interesting modded version of Windows 10 called LiteOS. Having seen the benchmarks between LiteOS versions of Windows 10 and their stock counterparts, I gotta say I'm very impressed.

    There are LiteOS versions of Windows 10 Home, Pro, and Even Enterprise LTSC. The mods applied to each edition of Windows 10 remove bloatware and other crap to increase performance, reduce memory usage, and decrease space taken up by Windows.

    Performance is significantly improved in the modded Home edition over stock Windows 10 Home edition, especially in CPU bound scenarios. See this video for framerate comparisons in games:

    Even LTSC gets a boost in games:


    I'd recommend the LiteOS version of Windows 10 LTSC to any gamer. 1% low framerates in even stock LTSC are significantly higher than in the Home or Pro editions, and LiteOS Windows 10 LTSC gets a further boost in 1% lows to make games feel smoother than ever.

    Memory usage on all these LiteOS versions is also ridiculously low (less than 1 GB!). I think this speaks to how much crap is in Windows 10 that really doesn't need to be there.

    There are other quality of life features such as a Windows 7 esque start menu and more. I think this is definitely worth checking out for those of you @Mr. Fox @Papusan who want Windows 7 superiority out of Windows 10. I'll be trying it out myself in the coming days.
     
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    A little update: I installed LiteOS Windows 10 LTSC today and some things were not as advertised. This could be due to multiple reasons however. I'll start off with the mismatches and then focus on the improvements.

    Contrary to the description, LiteOS LTSC does still have Windows Defender, the Windows 7 esque start menu isn't there, and memory usage is not 460 MB. However, I don't find these mismastches of that much importance because there are definitely tweaks that have been made to the OS to provide a better out of box experience.

    Although memory usage is not as low as advertised in those videos embedded in my previous post, memory usage has improved significantly. This may be due to Windows auto installing drivers for my machine, but it's still a good reduction in memory usage. It's about half that of a stock LTSC installation. My modded LTSC installation uses around 2 GB of memory at startup, wheras my stock LTSC installation used around 3.5-4 GB of memory at startup.

    A lot of useless crap has been disabled, such as services and features I don't need running since I don't use them. This is nice as I don't have to tweak this stuff myself. I can just focus on setting up my machine as I want it instead of having to perform tedious tweaks to get OS performance to where it should be and remove crap I don't need.

    In conclusion, LiteOS LTSC is not exactly as advertised in the video, but it's still really good, especially for gamers and benchers who want every last drop of performance from their machine. Performance in CPU bound games can improve significantly. LiteOS LTSC gets significantly higher 1% lows, so your games will feel smoother as well.
     
  3. thewizzard1

    thewizzard1 Notebook Consultant

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    I played with nLite back in the day - I'll be giving this a shot for sure!
     
  4. thenelle

    thenelle Newbie

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    Is this custom Windows safe to use? I got tired of Microsoft and their BS and decided to look for ways to improve my experience, but I was told not to trust ISOs made by others. I don't know much about these things but it looks like it's what I need, hence I'd rather ask beforehands to people who know more than I do. Thank you :)
     
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    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    I wouldn't come near it with a 10 foot pole. Windows 10 LTSC is light as it is. Just disable Windows Defender and Telemetry and you're good to go
     
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    thenelle Newbie

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    Alright, thank you!
     
  7. Clamibot

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    As far as I can tell, it's perfectly safe. I'm more open to taking risks if it improves performance though.

    Spartan's view is perfectly valid as well. If you don't want to take any risks, regular LTSC is also very good for gaming. It's a massive improvement over Windows 10 Home or Pro. You will get significantly higher framerates in games that are CPU bound. In my personal experience on my Alienware Ranger in my signature, switching to LTSC over Home gave me around a 20 FPS boost in CPU bound games, specifically the newer Tomb Raider and Hitman games.

    LiteOS LTSC is an additional 5-10% improvement over stock LTSC at best. I installed it because I'll take any performance improvement I can get, even at the risk of worse security. I've also disabled spectre and meltdown patches to gain an extra 2%. Multiple small improvements stack to make a bigger performance improvement, and since I'm doing this on a gaming machine, I don't mind sacrificing security for performance. I'd never do that on a business machine, only my personal gaming machines.

    You choose which path you want to take. Both are perfectly valid. I just chose the LiteOS LTSC path because I want absolute max performance at any cost. Stock LTSC will get you almost all the way there though with less risk, so no shame in going that route. My original post was more for letting people like me know that there is another option for maximum performance.
     
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    Thank you so much for taking your time to reply. I'm using LTSC for now and I can already say the minimalism approach is great, it feels like you actually own a PC, rather than some interface made for ads and bloats. I'll see in the future if I want to try LiteOS just to take it a step further, although I feel like I found my comfy spot for now. The videos of it do make it seem like it's even more optimized though, which interests me as I'm not good at doing this myself (I'm good at breaking the OS though, lol).

    Windows 10 is just a huge bloatware/spyware, and it's becoming unbearable IMO, especially since the only reason I need Windows is for gaming, as my games aren't compatible with Linux.
     
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    StormJumper Notebook Virtuoso

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    This is the safe protocols to go with - other then the support Windows version from Microsoft going with other version then those are asking for problem as those whom created it will not give you support or resolve your issues. I used Windows 10x64 Pro and installed and using it without issues. There are tweaks you can add or do to it but that is something you should look at before using something someone has created-as they may have removed parts your system needs and you won't know til it's too late. So go with the standard unless your really a Power users or Want to be a Tester for them then by all means do so. But standard Windows package will work for the majority of users.
     
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    MaheshKondraju Notebook Geek

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    Have you checked my Micro 10 Versions ? if not give it a try and let me know your experience.

    cheers
     
  11. MaheshKondraju

    MaheshKondraju Notebook Geek

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    Have you checked my Micro 10 Versions ? if not give it a try and let me know your experience.

    cheers
     
  12. Clamibot

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    I have not. I didn't know your versions existed. Is your Micro Home Edition a 64 bit OS?
     
  13. MaheshKondraju

    MaheshKondraju Notebook Geek

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    Both 32 Bit & 64 Bit are available check out the threads

    64 Bit:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/micro-10-home-n-20h2-19042-685.834980/

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/micro-10-pro-20h2-19042-630.834614/

    32 Bit:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/micro-10-pro-20h2-19042-685-32-bit.834867/

    Well these Micro versions are aimed at running efficiently on old legacy hardware with minimal resources. So i have stripped down a lot of features & dll's.

    As every end user usage is different and i cant cater their requirements with one release, i have released quite a few versions or iterations of Windows 10. Just go through the details and select the version which suits your usage and requirements.

    I have gone through your previous posts, So if your prime concern is to play games with better fps, i am not sure whether games at the first place would install and run smoothly without an error on Barebone versions. As the name suggests i have stripped down Assembly & Dot Net Framework 4.0 to its core for basic functionalities, secondly lots of system dll's has been removed which might result in crash of applications or software.

    So i think for gaming best suited version should be Micro 10 Pro 20H2 19042.630 Extreme which has stock Assembly & Dot Net Framework ( 2.0, 3.0, 3.5 & 4.0).

    Let me know your experience, if possible let me know the errors or problems faced in trying out the os, i will try to fix them in future releases.

    If you are interested in my 7 - 8 years old released Micro 7, Micro 8, Micro 8.1 & Micro 10 RTM, you can check out them here http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/micro-windows-isos-not-verified-by-nbr.830711/

    cheers
     
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    StormJumper Notebook Virtuoso

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    I installed the standard Pro Windows 10 on my desktop and laptop and done the DIY tweaks and so far had no issues other then bugs they found and updated to fix. Like I said if people want to be tester or Power users go and by all means use them but the majority shouldn't use this. This comes from experiences System Buildings and learning from trial and error. Such DIY O/S is good if it's something for yourself to use and test but that isn't something the majority needs should problem other then a O/S update be the cause. And troubleshooting will take longer then needs be in resolving issues.