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    MS Office 2010

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by TheAtreidesHawk, Sep 12, 2010.

  1. TheAtreidesHawk

    TheAtreidesHawk Notebook Deity

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    Does this offer any substantial improvements over 2007?

    More importantly if I buy the STUDENT version does that come with 3 licenses (meaning I can install it on 3 systems)?

    Any information would be greatly appreciated....
     
  2. TheAtreidesHawk

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    Anyone have any knowledge on this issue?
     
  3. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Yes 3 licenses means 3 separate machines.
     
  4. TheAtreidesHawk

    TheAtreidesHawk Notebook Deity

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    That's not what I am asking though...

    If you buy MS OFFFICE 2010 through MS own website using the student offer...are you buying ONE license OR 3?
     
  5. booboo12

    booboo12 Notebook Prophet

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    The student offer includes Office Pro Academic. Unlike Home and Student, it allows you to install to two machines (one "portable" and one desktop, though I doubt it matters which type of PC you install it on.)

    http://download.microsoft.com/downl... Office 2010 pdf/clientallup_eula_english.pdf
     
  6. TheAtreidesHawk

    TheAtreidesHawk Notebook Deity

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    I'm sorry but you're not making much sense...if someone buys the regular Home and Student version at regular price you can install it on up to 3 computers...

    All I want to know is IF the same thing is applicable if I were to buy Home and Student thru the Student Offer

    I've never heard of "Office Pro Academic"...is that a document, a version of MS Office?
     
  7. Matrix Leader7

    Matrix Leader7 Notebook Geek

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    I got Office Professional Plus 2010 for $9 USD through a special promotional offer :D
     
  8. Terminal42

    Terminal42 Notebook Evangelist

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    Doesn't look like a big step up from 2007. Which I've been using for quite some time. Its great. I say stick with it.
     
  9. hirush

    hirush Notebook Evangelist

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    First thing you'll notice is the loading speed improvement. I have not been on office 2010 long enough to notice any major big difference against 2007 yet.
     
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    Matrix Leader7 Notebook Geek

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    I have both 2007 and 2010. I'll tell you honestly. There is 0 percent difference.

    The loading speed is much much slower! Just try loading Outlook and you'll know what i'm talking about, it's coz of all thesee xtra modules like the bluetooth module, etc that slow it down.

    Functionality wise, nothing different other than a newer look and a bunch of features you'll never use
     
  11. TheAtreidesHawk

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    Thanks for those replies....still waiting to see if anyone knows anything about the # of computers I'd be able to install it on if I bought the student offer version and downloaded it online.
     
  12. booboo12

    booboo12 Notebook Prophet

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    Office Professional Academic is the version you'll get if you download Office via Microsoft's Academic site for 79.95.

    Microsoft® Academic
     
  13. TheAtreidesHawk

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    And according to the link you're providing I could install it on 3 PCs correct?
     
  14. kobe

    kobe Notebook Virtuoso

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    Buying it through online is the same as retail and not OEM, (not preinstalled software on a new computer) According to the license pdf which you can download here LINK It says you can install it up to 2 pc's. One is the licensed device and the other is a portable device (laptop I guess or a desktop that you carry around, it has to be the one that you use though, not someone elses). It is confusing the way they worded it. M$ go figure. :rolleyes:
     
  15. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    One significant advantage - Outlook 2010 searches your contacts when you start typing the address - 2007 only searches through already "used" addresses...


    And I think performance is better in 2010 - besides a better menu layout and a print preview.

    Would I buy it - even though I can get the student version, no. I have 2007... if I hadn't I would though.
     
  16. Pirx

    Pirx Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hmm, that's news to me; at least mine doesn't do that. Are you saying there is an option for this?

    In any case, the one suprisingly useful new trick I found in Outlook is to display your emails in a threaded format, as "conversations". This amazing feature even works across different mail folders. So, even if you store your email in various folders, when a new email appears in your Inbox, Outlook will show you the related emails (the original email and all replies to it) no matter where you filed them. Truly awesome feature...
     
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    No, you are confusing Office Professional Academic (the one you can buy on special for cheap) with Office Home and Student.

    Office Professional Academic: Two machines (preferably one copy on a "portable" AKA netbook, laptop....they won't care if its on a desktop though)

    Office Home and Student: 3 machines

    You get a lot more of Office through the Professional Academic suite than the Home and Student suite. Consider this the advantage of getting it over Home and Student even though Home and Student lets you install office on one additional machine.

    Hope this is a bit clearer, MS should be up front about this but its buried in the EULA instead.... :)
     
  18. fonduekid

    fonduekid JSUTAONHTERBIRCKINTEHWLAL

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    I agree, and I was about to say the same.

    I would go with the Office Professional through that ultimate steal program!!! I have had both Office 2007 / Office 2010 with that and it was very cheap, and yes, they allow installation on one laptop and one desktop....

    Cheers.
     
  19. TheAtreidesHawk

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    Thanks guys for clearing that up. I agree with you 100%...

    Will be getting the student offer asap
     
  20. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Well, I'm pretty sure the Beta of 2010 searched through all my contacts - in fact it must because I added a relatives email address recently in Poland and just started off from the name.

    In 2007 I can only get the "suggestions" for email addresses I already sent stuff too - which mean I have to go digging around in old emails on occasions...

    Not sure what setting it would be or if there is one... I've also moved back to 2007... heck, I bought Outlook 2007 for 150€ in 2008... so it must last a bit longer... even though 2010 is better - just not better enough.
    (And Office Home & Student 2007 around 2007 I think)
     
  21. Pirx

    Pirx Notebook Virtuoso

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    O.k., all I can say is that my Outlook 2010 that I am using for a couple of weeks now does not search my contacts when typing in the address field of emails. It acts exactly the same way the 2007 version did: Addresses that have been used before are remembered and offered in a drop-down list, anything else you have to type yourself.
     
  22. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Strange... but OK.

    Any way to change that? :) - maybe in 2007 :D
     
  23. Pirx

    Pirx Notebook Virtuoso

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    You know, actually, I am not sure I would want that changed. My contacts list is pretty extensive, and I'm not sure I want an endless list of email adresses to pop up every time I start typing in an address field. But, if the option existed, at least I could try it out. I couldn't find such an option anywhere, though.
     
  24. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You know... it must exist though...

    I got the Technical Preview, then the Beta - always had the suggestions.
    Then this summer I had to reinstall my OS as I managed to break it - I then installed a trial of Office 2010 because my 2007 disc was in the UK - and I had the suggestions once I started typing.

    I'd highly doubt Outlook went through all my sent emails and got the email addresses from that.

    On that note - I know that 2007 does not.
     
  25. Pirx

    Pirx Notebook Virtuoso

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    I wonder if anybody knows; my Office 2010 installation was an upgrade install from Office 2007. It could be that that's why I don't get the address suggestions. If that is the case, then I'd like to know how to get them...

    P.S.: I just found this article. The author claims, without referring to a specific version of Outlook, that it sometimes uses the Contacts list to find suggestions, but sometimes it doesn't, and it seems unclear under what circumstances it does or does not use the Contacts list. The mystery deepens...

    P.P.S.: Here is a tool for editing the suggestion list. Seems to work for Outlook 2010 as well.
     
  26. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Maybe... Sadly I cannot tell... I did do an upgrade from 2007 onto the Technical preview, but that is a long time ago... and I don't remember :(

    I suppose you can migrate to a new Outlook profile and a new .pst file? :) shouldn't be too difficult.
     
  27. Pirx

    Pirx Notebook Virtuoso

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    Found out another thing: It turns out that Outlook 2010 maintains a second Contacts folder for me, titled "Suggested Contacts", which contains exactly the suggestions Outlook presents when I type in an Address field. I can add addresses from my main Contacts folder to this one, and Outlook will use them in the above way. This way I can have the best of both worlds: I can have all the suggestions I like, without having Outlook suggest everything in my Contacts list. Problem solved.
     
  28. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Nice :)
    Maybe all my contacts where in the same category.

    Anyway, I think the answer has been found? :)
     
  29. Sir Punk

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    I don't know why would someone use outlook when there's thunderbird and a few other programs out there for free.
     
  30. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Integration with mobile devices ;) that's reason enough :)

    Besides it's all in one - contacts, notes, address book, email, planner.

    On that note - I shortly had Thunderbird on another computer because I was thinking about recommending it to someone - result: I wouldn't, if you need something free, Microsoft Live Mail is easier to use.
     
  31. Pirx

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    Too many reasons to list. Outlook is a lot more than a simple email client such as Thunderbird.
     
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    A bit of clarification on the license - you can install it to a licensed machine (the main one, usually a desktop) and a portable machine. So a total of two. However, the license sticks to the user, not the machine. It's meant for one user to be able to choose to use either install at will, not for multiple people to use the software at the same time.