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    MZ Vista Force (Tweaking Guide)

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by MaXimus, Jun 1, 2009.

  1. MaXimus

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    This is by far, one of the best all round tweakers I have used for Vista.

    MZ Vista Force

    Here's a free Vista tweaker, and it's a very good one--you'll be able to tweak Vista in countless way, including for speeding up performance, juicing up Internet speed, cleaning up your hard disk, cleaning out startup programs, and even tweaking Windows Media Player and Explorer. There are numerous settings here, many of them exceedingly fine-grained. Want to change the speed at which the Start menu search displays? Yes, you can do it, and plenty more as well. The program free, and there's a lot to play with, and based on that, it's hard not to want to download it.

    1) As soon as you startup the program, you will be prompted to backup the registry, DO IT, just incase. (I personally never backup the registry when using this program but feel free to do so.

    2) Begin tweaking (refer to attachments) I use these settings and have gained excellent performance increase, feel free to play around with more, yo ucan find an explanation for every option in the HELP.

    3) After going through all the options, click APPLY, then reboot.

    4) Run MZ Registry optimizer, then reboot.

    :)
     

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  2. MaXimus

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    This used to be recommended in the Vista tweaks thread, but was removed because more than one user's computer was crippled from using this.

    Use it at your own risk!

    Also, I don't use a tweaking program unless it fully documents what the tweaks do internally to your system. From what I remember, this documentation was not provided before. Do they have it now?
     
  4. MaXimus

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    Yes dude, if you access teh help section, you will find an explanation for every single option. That's how I learned how to turn on/ off these options, The guide provided above is very safe to my knowledge/experience.
     
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    Has anyone else used this with good success? I want to try it but I'm not sure if it's worth the risk.
     
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    I've never tried this program, but I've used Vista Manager for over a year and it's absolutely amazing!

    http://www.yamicsoft.com/vistamanager/
     
  7. MaXimus

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    Dude, like I said, when you first open the program it prompts you to backup your registry so you could revert back if anything happens. Plus I have been using it on al systems that I fix with 0 problems for about 6 months.

    Trust teh men, I guarantee you'll love it.
     
  8. Second2Last33

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    That looks pretty nice, but I'm a bit turned off by the price tag. Has it made a noticeable difference for your system?

    Thanks for the assurance.
     
  9. MaXimus

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    MZ Vista Force is FREE and does a great job, dont wanna trust meh? up to you.
     
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    Hi everyone!

    Please have a look a my post in this thread which I just wrote some hours ago: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=385925&page=3

    The thread partly was about this software, and I wrote a pretty long post (took about 90 minutes to write I guess) about "tweaking" and about what to do and what not to do. I talk about the dangers and possible benefits, and I really hope that my post will help people to understand the way of "sane tweaking".

    I'm trying to help prevent problems here, so if you read that post please drop me some comments.



    Thank you!

    Christoph
     
  11. MaXimus

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    Way of sane tweaking? This is exactly my guide''s purpose d00d.
     
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    It's not that I don't trust you, and I'm thankful for your post. I just wanted to see what other people think.
     
  13. MaXimus

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    Fair enough :) U will love meh after applying teh tw34k$ though :D
     
  14. -L1GHTGAM3R-

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    so what do i copy exactly what u have in the pics as int the options and ill be safe does it work for 64bit vista
     
  15. MaXimus

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    32 Bit / 64 Bit = Same tweaks.

    You should copy all the options I have selected except for 1 thing, the option which prompts you to specifiy your L2 cache (one of the best tweaks BTW), I chose CUSTOM Value then chose 6144 as I have 6 MB of L2 cache, there is a drop down list there, see if you find your exact CPU, if you don't then choose CUSTOM and enter the L2 cache manually

    its simple, if you have 4 MB L2 Cache, so it means 4x1024 = 4096 so you should set the value to 4096, and so forth.

    Other than that, choose all the options that I chose exactly.
     
  16. -L1GHTGAM3R-

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    thanks did u see any performance increase....
     
  17. MaXimus

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    offcourse!!! faster boot time, faster reboot/shutdown, faster net speed, faster whole system general responsiveness, faster disk access times.
     
  18. -L1GHTGAM3R-

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    ok let me get this straigght my l2 cache is 2048 is that what i put in....
     
  19. MaXimus

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    What CPU do you have exactly? use CPU-Z or SiSoft Sandra to give you the full name, then I can tell you what to put exactly.
     
  20. MaXimus

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    Ok I found it, If you're sure you have 2 MB, then you should choose Centrino Core2 Duo E4300)

    * check the attachment *
     

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    here it is
     
  22. MaXimus

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    yup like I told you in the previous post :)

    *check the attachment*
     
  23. -L1GHTGAM3R-

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    ok thx sorry for the stupid question and for putting up with them

    +REP
     
  24. MaXimus

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    You're welcome, let me know what you think after you've applied ALL the tweaks and restarted :)

    Don't forget to run the MZ Registry Optimzer after you restart, then restart for it to complete, then judge :)
     
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    Vista Tweak is really dangerous both manual(registry editing) and auto(3rd party softwares).
    I do not trust it 100%. As I have tried tweaking it before. My laptop got screwed up. LOL.
    1st, Vista Tweak may cause registry malfunction.
    2nd, it might spoil your MBR.
    3rd, tweaking/changing of speed like start-up menu delay and so on are fake. What it do for you is just disabling windows animation and fading effects. So, it can run faster.

    I only trust Vistaglazz as it is being tested and confirmed to be safe.
    Tune-up Utilities tweaking is safe as well.
    However, I do not tweak those speed-up thingy using Tune-up Utilities because I know it is fake.
    All I want was just vistaglazz transparent bar, registry fixing and defragmenter and clean-up.
     
  26. MaXimus

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    Yeah right I have been using it for almost a year now on all the computer that I use or fix with 0 problems and excellent performance.

    Additionally, I was using MZ Ultimate Tweaker in the old days, which is the same program but supports XP, never had a problem with that as well! I gurantee you guys, this program is 100%, just use the settings that I have used, and youll be perfect!
     
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    And BTW Dark Silver, MZ Vista Tweaker does not remove any animations or effects :rolleyes: I am running AERO with all the effects. kthxbye :rolleyes:
     
  28. -L1GHTGAM3R-

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    well just tried not gonna lie but it crippled my machine as in that i mean lagged like if i was running on my knees thank god i backed up my registry i was about to go crying in my usual crying corner u knoe the one u go to when u knoe u f*#!? something up lol anyways thx MAX for the help this just wasnt for me.......
     
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    what the.........*no comment* :rolleyes:
     
  30. crash

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    Not every person has the EXACT same system as you so the settings you used may not be suitable for everybody :rolleyes:

    You're not the only one that's had that problem. It's not uncommon.

    Told you.
     
  31. davepermen

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    I just use vista, the way it installs from my stick (which is a copy of the original disk :)).

    fast, stable, updating and enhancing due to it. no crippling, nothing. the only thing important is to find out what's the bottleneck of your system, fix that, and it's never slow again.. :)
     
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    oh, and, just saw you disabled UAC.

    you lost me there. you can go back to xp right now :)
     
  33. MaXimus

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    why? UAC just tells u when comething is trying to alter your system, I know what I am running, and I have an AV so...
     
  34. davepermen

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    UAC disabling is for the dudes that believe to know better.

    Till the day they (maybe) learn otherwise.

    I prefer to not have to care 100% all the time if all i do doesn't harm the system. espencially as silent viruses could still sneak in. I know what I'm running as well, but I know as well, no matter what I do (or don't), my System knows when I'm doing harm to it, and prevents it.
     
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    ok ill reenable UAC bro thanks
     
  36. DarkSilver

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    You pointed out the important notes for me.

    @MaXimus: A lot of people are using vista tweak both manual or auto.
    However, a lot of people are not using it because some systems
    cannot work with it. I know my system couldn't obviously
    because I tweaking my vista before. That's why I suggest
    DON'T EVER PLAY WITH VISTA TWEAKING. It might be cool if
    success. It sucks if it fails and it worst if you do not backup or
    can't use/restore using the backup.

    Conclusion,
    TRY IT AT YOUR OWN RISK.
     
  37. davepermen

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    the biggest problem imho is, lots of others try out those tweaks, which magically enhance the os, and still the os then doesn't work 100% as it should. then they come in those very forums crying how bad vista is, how this and that doesn't work how it should, etc.

    and no one will notice that they treaked their system and that's the reason for it. they wouldn't say that while posting, of course :)
     
  38. DarkSilver

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    That might be true.
    I disagreed with too much of tweaking such as shutdown faster or boot-up faster.
    Boot-up/shutdown speed can be adjust by decreasing the services and startup.
    However, using 3rd party softwares, I don't know what would they tweak in the registry. Maybe the shutdown timing. 20seconds(standard) maybe they adjusted it to lesser than that.
     
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    I don't tweak services anymore as well. In vista, it always decreased performance and/or stability.
     
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    The Vista tweaks in this forum are good enough to get Vista working to an optimum level for all users here and it is also very safe. There is no need to run this program if you do not want to run the risk of messing up your computer in the hope of getting the best performance possible.
     
  41. Christoph.krn

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    Sorry, but it isn't!
    See... you're not even giving out any warnings except for "you should back up your registry". I'm sorry, but I just can't call that sane enough!
    Oh, and UAC is so much more than just asking "Are you sure?". If you absolutely don't want any UAC dialogs, you should disable the dialogs but not UAC itself. I highly suggest to keep it fully enabled, though. Once you installed everything you need you will hardly get any UAC dialogs anymore.
     
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    I've always heard and read in various Tech magazine and articles, that the first thing anyone should do with vista is to turn off UAC.
     
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    Well, that is completely wrong. First off, UAC certainly has its purpose for non-computer-savvy people. They should certainly keep it on. Secondly, UAC is helpful even for a knowledgeable user for several reasons. People that say "turn off UAC, it's stupid" without talking about what it does are giving bad advice.
     
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    Well, these are usually the kind of magazines that try to sell using promises they can't keep. "10 tricks to make your Computer the best. Ever. Period." and similar.

    It's only good to disable UAC if you are absolutely certain (and I mean 100% absolutely certain) about what you are doing, and you know that UAC will not help you - which is an extremely rare case for very specialized uses of Windows.

    UAC greatly helps improve the overall security of Windows systems. What it does is it takes applications that you run all rights to mess around with the system, so these applications can only change some not so critical things (your personal data, for example) because otherwise you'd have to click "Yes, I'm sure" every time you want to write a document - also see "This is especially true for web browsers" below. If any application needs to make changes to the system, it will have to prompt you for privilege elevation so that it's able to fully play around with your system.
    The most tricky part about this is that applications with security holes in them will also no longer have the right to mess around with the system. So an attacker can not directly compromise your system by exploiting that security hole.

    This is especially true for web browsers: UAC also enables Internet Explorer (also works with other web browsers or any other software, but you have to set it up manually) in "Protected Mode", which improves security as web browsers are a huge vector for attacks nowadays (if not even the biggest). Internet Explorer is set to run in protected mode via default. For more information, see: About Internet Explorer Protected Mode on Internet Explorer Team Blog

    Now, applications with security holes in them could still be exploited to modify some executable files in your personal directories (like "Documents" or your desktop), because applications can still do that while they're not running with full rights - UAC will just prevent them from compromising your whole system (that is, from writing anywhere to the windows directory for instance). If you then run these executable files (could be setup files, for example), you might end up confirming a UAC prompt because you thought that setup routine was genuine while it had actually been modified by the rogue application with the security hole, so that it now has a virus in it.
    For this (and other) reason(s), UAC dialogs will show if the files you are about to execute are "digitally signed". If a file is digitally signed, the UAC dialog will show the vendor of the software. Digital signatures automatically get void whenever the signed file has been modified. Unfortunately, though, still not all software vendors sign their files.
    You can also view the digital signatures of files using explorer, by right-clicking a file and selecting "properties"


    So UAC is not about limiting the user, it's about limiting the rights of the software you run while you're still in control. Ideally, each software would only get the specific rights it needs. For example, with Java and .NET, software developers can already limit the rights of their applications, but that's not very common yet. And it seems that it won't be until the amount of malicious software (read: Malware, Spyware, Viruses, Trojans and friends) increases to an amount that is even more enormous than what we can think of now.

    In XP, it's also possible to make applications run with lower rights by default by using a "standard user" account instead of an administrator account. However, in XP it's hard to do this if you don't know enough about it, because it wasn't designed to be used with lower rights by default. For example, you would have to escalate privileges manually. Also, in XP it's not a very secure implementation: for example, in certain circumstances applications with lower rights can simply tell applications that are running with full rights what they want them to do, and they'll do it.

    The reason why these UAC prompts were extremely annoying when Vista was released (leading to much press coverage back then) is that no version of Windows prior to Vista had been designed with security as a top priority. So most XP applications that wouldn't have needed full rights caused a UAC prompt on Vista, because the developers of the software had taken full rights as granted by default, which was the case in every version of Windows prior to Vista.
    In most Linux systems, you usually have to type in a specific password every time an application needs full rights. But as in Linux it has always been common to not give any rights to software that doesn't absolutely need it, you won't get these password requests too often and only when they are absolutely needed. So it's not annoying.

    And finally: In-depth information about UAC on Microsoft Technet: "Understanding and Configuring User Account Control in Windows Vista"


    Hope that helped and wasn't too hard to understand. Security is a pretty complicated topic. :)

    Christoph


    Edit: forgot to add Inside Windows Vista User Account Control on Microsoft Technet, which is a bit less heavy than the above Technet link.
     
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    I used Vista Manager from Yamicsoft in trial mode and it didn't make hardly any noticeable difference. For the most part these "tweaking" programs are really just a lot of fluff/smoke and mirrors as it relates to Vista. There are a few things you can do to your system without using "tweaking tools" to have your system running at optimum performance by keeping your system clean (See CCleaner), doing a defrag (see auslogics defrag) and not visiting the pRon sites (See avoiding nasty viruses! ;) )
     
  46. davepermen

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    Amazing Post. have to quote that from now on in all sort of threads about badboy UAC.. :)

    I've made a simple example on how to fix xp-days apps that don't work well with UAC in my links below. the only personal app i had to fix that way was an online radio streaming app for our club. still, better than disabling it completely, or making it invisible.
     
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    you know i still dont get why people rag on vista. i think vista is better than xp, every customer i have once they give vista a try love it. if vista is installed properly an set up right it just doesnt need to be "tweaked" i dont use any tweaker on my systems and they run flawless. and i dont mean any offense by this but if you need to use a auto tweak program you shouldnt be messing with it anyway. again no offense by that please
     
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    Agreed. Almost all tweak are useless except those windows theme changing.
    Personally, I would not recommend tweaking on vista.
    Tweaking are all lies, it only switch off certain programs or services to make you feel your computer is actually running faster.

    CCleaner, Tune-Up Utilities, Disk Defragmenter, Disk Clean-up and GOOD internet security(antivirus) are all you need for a computer to work flawlessly.
     
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    remove tune-up utilities from that list. no clue what that is for :) (and i don't need defragmenters. disk cleanup is in ccleaner, and antivirus is something i don't use anymore anyways.. :))
     
  50. DarkSilver

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    For a Professional, of course you do no need AV and so on.
    Because you know the very very complicated and $%^&^%$%^ parts of a PC.

    Tune-Up Utilities is similar to CCleaner but more function and sometime detect more registry errors than CCleaner.
    However, CCleaner do detect registry errors that Tune-UP Utilities does not detect.
    DISK DEFRAGMENTER is located at your system tools. Obviously, every computer have it.
     
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