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    Major problems. Can't even reinstall OS

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Nvidia, Aug 25, 2009.

  1. Nvidia

    Nvidia Notebook Consultant

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    Hello. My laptops Been major slow and I wanted to do a clen install anyway to put on windows 7.

    Well, even booting from the disk, it just sits on setup is starting and never actually does. In repair, while it loads and searches for windows installations it will just continuously load and freeze there as well.
    I've tried two disks now. Nothing will work.
    I tried doing it through the os too but that froze too. Along with most programs I run.

    I thought when u reinstalled that was above all. I already booted with Linux and got my data off. And through that I can see the harderive. Should I try deleting everything off it thru Linux? And then nothing will stop the cd maybe?

    Thanks I'm in big trouble with this one. Help fast!
     
  2. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    Since you are trying to install Windows 7, these are not commercial disks, so you burned these yourself?

    First, I have seen the setup take a long time to start....I mean, a long time.

    Second, I have seen this occur with a bad image and a bad burn.

    First thing you should do is burn the Windows image at the slowest speed possible for your burner. 1x or 2x if you can. Some media is quite finicky.
     
  3. comrade_commissar7

    comrade_commissar7 Notebook Evangelist

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    What is your notebook specs? What about your hard disk's age? If you frequently use your notebook for several hours, then what you are experiencing is actually a symptom of failing hard drive. Boot to BIOS mode and check if your hard disk is detected. If yes, then I suggest you delete you Linux partition and retry your Windows 7 installation by burning it (as ISO image), as Gerry said, with slowest speed possible. Neverthelss, you have to choose which OS to use, Linux or Windows because apparently, you're having a hard time in installing 7. It just means that your hard disk is having a hard time taking the two OS at the same time considering 7's new features and RAM requirements.

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    Hope this helped :)
     
  4. LIVEFRMNYC

    LIVEFRMNYC Blah Blah Blah!!!

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    Maybe it's just the partition itself that's corrupted somehow. Especially if Linux is working properly. You should just delete it and create a newly formatted one.
     
  5. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    His problem, it sounds to me, is that the Windows setup does not even begin. That says bad burn, not hardrive issues.

    Windows 7 setup will start and see any drive no matter the partition arrangement or file system format--once it starts. I still say bad burn
     
  6. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    LIVEFRMNYC mentioned a corrupt partition, specifically the file system. Use chkdsk to check the drive for errors (and fix them automatically).
     
  7. newsposter

    newsposter Notebook Virtuoso

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    or just tell the windows installer to delete and recreate/format the whole disk.
     
  8. Nvidia

    Nvidia Notebook Consultant

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    ok. yes, i burned the discs at slowest speed and twice. plus i burned them on another computer too. and it was still the same result.

    but anywayssss- i just let it sit and after about 40 minutes the setup finally loaded. so, even though the whole setup process took a million times longer, it worked and i installed it succesfully.

    although its not fixed. it is better though, but booting and starting still take unbelivably and rediculously long times. as well do installing programs. and using most.

    whats the problem? i even did a complete wipe and its still like this
    just the way it was before i planned to reinstall OS.

    any help? is it a hardware problem?
    should i go through ubuntu or somthing and delete everything on my hdd thru there? because thats going behind windows. because obviously theres something wrong if dping a clean wipe install didnt work.
     
  9. taj619

    taj619 Notebook Consultant

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    this could be ur hard disk or ram problem
     
  10. Shadows1990

    Shadows1990 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yep, that's what it sounds like to me.
    My guess would be that it's the hard drive, as I've seen many more hard drives fail than I have RAM sticks.

    For checking the health of the hard drive, check out HDTune.

    For checking the memory, use Memtest. This will require burning to a disc, and booting from that disc.
    Note, it is highly recommended you run memtest for a minimum of 12 hours, using the full scan, as it will provide more accurate results.
     
  11. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    The question is--where is the time "long"

    Can you describe that?

    Does the status bar swinging back and forth take forever?

    Does the computer spend a long time on the splash screen of the laptop maker?

    Details help
     
  12. Nvidia

    Nvidia Notebook Consultant

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    ok I will do so :)
     
  13. Nvidia

    Nvidia Notebook Consultant

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    No. The splash screen disapears fast as usual.
    By long time I mean much longer than usual. Trust me I know what the normal times are and were. And they are much slowr now and unnaceptable.

    The status bar? Like thenloading bar on folders? No that's normal time. Unless I'm In my computer. Because my other hardrrive is listed there and it can't access it and has a problem with it.

    Booting takes 10-15 minutes... :eek:

    and another thing. Today it came up installing new devices thing when it started up. In there were both my hardrives and my mouse pugged in. Doug this for after 5minutes eventually the mouse and one hardrives finished, while the other failed. Which is the same one that I cannot access.
    One more thing is that my CPU and memory usages are normal and low, the whole time this is happening
    AND games run fine and normal. Which is odd. But I get normal fps, even though sometimes it takes a few minutes for the game to actually appear.

    The drive hasn't recently overheated or anything, it's a good hitachi too. I don't know how it would fail. And my memory ram is OCZ I think, Wich I thought was special quality and for gamers.
     
  14. Nvidia

    Nvidia Notebook Consultant

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    Another thing is now a problem too.

    When I try to start HDtune, the compuetr freezes for a second and the hardrives spins up or whatever you call it. But then as with most other thighs of course, the program doesn't start up or eever appear.

    What now?
    Is there any program I can run through ubuntu Linux to scan my hdd like hdtune?
     
  15. Nvidia

    Nvidia Notebook Consultant

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    Bumpppppp

    cmon people, please! I need help my laptops is acting like it's 10 years old.
     
  16. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    You didn't say you have two harddrives

    remove the second harddrive

    Boot up.

    Difference?
     
  17. Nvidia

    Nvidia Notebook Consultant

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    oh, I'm very sorry, I thought i did
    please understand this is just getting really stressful.

    And it's getting worse. It is now sitting on the splash screen for a while. It's slower and it won't even find files anymore and folders are coming up blank.

    I'll try that. Thank you. :)
     
  18. pixelot

    pixelot Notebook Acolyte

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    If HDTune won't run, it sounds like bad hard drive corruption, similar to what happened to me recently, as a bad sector in my HDD caused problems. I booted a Linux terminal and ran e2fsck -c and let it do it's magic. I ordered a new drive anyways, but that may help your HDD back to life.

    Cheers... :)
     
  19. gerryf19

    gerryf19 I am the walrus

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    I think it is the second drive failing as well, now.

    the symptoms you describe sounds like a drive with bad blocks/bad circuitboard.