My Professor wants me to get XP?

I wonder.
If XP is still better on games, will it be better on 3D design?

BTW, I'm sure his professor did the math.

 

XP is not better on games. The only time you'll see any difference in frame rate is if you're playing a natively DX10 game, which has to run in DX9 mode because XP doesn't have DX10.

 

My friend, you don't have a gaming machine. But go and ask the people of the "gaming" forum. They'll tell you XP is still faster, 3-6 FPS.

 

Must. Beat. Dead. Horse.

 

Good one.
I checked with the gaming people, apparently if you have a top PC, Vista should be as good as XP.

 

OH MY GOD 3 FPS!!!!! THIS IS GOING TO ALLOW ME TO PLAY ON VERY HIGH RATHER THAN MINIMUM1!!!!!!1111!!1!!!!11!

This difference is so low, you could see it between 2 identical computers. If you are already over 30fps, 6 won't even make you see a difference.

You could also get 7, it does virtualize XP.

 

If you are on 25 fps, oh man huge difference on shooters. 23 vs 26. 22 vs 28?

 

Then you are going to the wrong university--many can set you up with a student license much cheaper than that.

 

someone is a student and actually PAYS for XP Pro? Seriously? No MSDNAA subscription? You're missing out bro

 

Dude, just get Vista and VMWare and make a virtual machine with XP. That way you have the best of both worlds and you make Prof happy. And as far as games go, Vista is better. Maybe in the early days it struggled some, but now I run everything in Vista. Have almost abandoned XP Still got it on a VM, and 1 of my desktops, but thats it. Go with Vista or wait on 7. XP is done

 

My custom-built gaming desktop would like a word with you.

Are you aware of how many thousands of different tiny little things can make a difference of 3-6 frames per second? I can almost guarantee you it's not just the operating system. And even if it is...so what?

Haha, I guess the Ohio State University is the wrong one. Never mind being the largest federally funded institute in the United States, and largest college campus this year.

Our university-affiliated computer store stocks 80% Macbooks and Apple stuff. Even the interior decor is all white and silver, like an Apple store. There's like 4 Dell and HP models kind of shoved in their own little corner.

 

Ohio State...that explains everything

 

Care to elaborate?

 

Are you the poor sap student that still pays for Windows OSs?

Being it that you go to OSU, you should be able to get an MSDNAA membership or an IEEE student membership ( Im with IEEE personally; $30/year ), both of which afford you the ability to acquire a free .ISO and serial key of Windows XP Pro, Windows Vista Business, and supposedly Windows 7 Professional sometime after release. We also got the Windows 7 RC a week early as well.

Who needs student discounts?

 

What poor sap pays for any software?

 

Care to elaborate?

Legal methods to obtain free software are limited to certain groups, like students for example.

 

You know exactly what I mean, besides depending on where you live, it is legal.

 

I dont. So please, explain to me what you mean.

 

Neither do I.

But that may be because I buy my software.

Or use MSDN at the moment as I am a student.

 

Why are people so against file sharing? Damn.

Read irating software Happy now?

 

That is illegal in every country.
Some may allow you to download a file if you have a valid license but its ilegal - period.

Exceptions are:
Freeware where the license allows you to share the software provided you do not profit from it.
"Data" that you own all rights to - like your own programmes, your pictures.

And I think we can close this topicnow.

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About MSDN - do you get immediate access on the US? it took a couple of months here in the UK beforewe (maths group) got the e-mail wth our username and password.

 

By definition, its not actually sharing, its actually more like....replicating. Also, we ( we being NBR, such as the forum rules you should read ) are against anything illegal, of which much of "file sharing" is. It violates copyrights and is bad for software developers. It is essentially stealing; im sure it would anger you if I came to your house, took your laptop, then took your car since, and then left with 0 repercussions for my actions.

I had a similar argument not too long ago, where I said some devs would likely stop writing software due to piracy. One argument against mine was that the devs dont write the software only to make money, but rather because they enjoy it, and many times, the FOSS ends up being much better than the paid version, one example was *nix. Let me remind you that Red Hat made $400 Million in 2007. Also, there are many softwares that are not beat by their FOSS counterparts. One small subset of programs that require payment that FOSS counterparts have yet to beat ( overall ) is very popular and commonly used by people of all ages. Its called games.

One more thing, were you to actually to take the time to read the EULAs of the software you pirate, you would noticed the "protected by international treaties that is included as well"

Didnt your mother teach you to read before you sign?

 

It only took about a week or so, then again, my subscription is through IEEE, not directly with MSDN, so im not completely sure if there is anything different. Months is quite a while.

 

If we're going to continue the discussion about piracy, this thread is going to close. K?

 

Jut checked up to be sure.

I got the e-mail with my MSDN username and password on the 25th of November 2008 - I started uni on the 22nd of September (not quite - that was the first day, but things like enrolment, etc. but it started within 1 week)

So it took about pretty accurately 2 months.

But it was dealt with by the university - I didn' know about it until I got the e-mail - and I'm in the UK.

I suppose the OP could always contat the revelevant department at the university and see whether this can be sped up.

 

Wow...2 months. Mine took 6 days...

As for the OP. Like many others have said, unless there is a specific reason that you would actually need XP, such as a compatibility issue, go with Vista or maybe even Windows 7 RC1. Vista has a stigma attached to it, and much what people thing are unfounded and way off base. Actually, pick whichever you want, Ive only used XP and Vista, but Ive heard good things about W7. Either of the three are good operating systems.

 

Can we get back on topic now?

We don't want to have what is a good thread closed.

 

I agree with this; while I would love to argue my point and give a different scenario, at the same time, I would rather not have this thread closed for coming in here and derailing the topic.

 

I may have three OS's running in my system (XP, Vista, and Ubuntu)..... I mainly use XP SP3.... its performs very well, great compatibility, and low resource hog.

 

I would also love to argue your points. Agree that we don't want the thread closed. Unfortunately, it's very hard to find a forum that allows talking these subjects, and on the other hand that does not promotes piracy. It's like if you search for a forum about the middle east issues, you get both extremes but none where objective people participate.

 

I saw that website, but according to the Ohio State information page about it, I have to use a username and password that was (allegedly) emailed to me, though I never got one, so I have nothing to log in with. I contacted the specified help address, and they told me that if I wasn't sent an email, then they can't help me. :/

 

Wow you guys serious removed my post? Fascists.

 

Don't let the ban door hit you on the way out.

 

What did you say?

 

Don't worry, I won't.

 

Are you an engineering major? If you're not that might be why you haven't received anything.

 

Computer Information Science. And the only link to MSDNAA information on the entire OSU website is in that department's website.

 

To paraphrase Inigo Montoya, I don't think that word means what you think it means.