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    NBR Vista Tips and Tweaks Guide

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Les, Sep 7, 2007.

  1. Les

    Les Not associated with NotebookReview in any way

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    I could probably add this on to the papa regading turning off System Restore but not give it its own space because, shutting system restore off accomplishes this.
     
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    Meetloaf13 fear the MONKEY!!!

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    HEy Flam, real quick, I thought you might know what's going on.

    So, it takes about 2 minutes to boot to desktop.

    It takes ~20 to get to the point where crcdisk.sys appears to be loading, which takes another ~10s to load. Then I have a blank screen for ~55s (during which I see my webcam light blink) and then the Pearl. ~30s later I see desktop.

    What is supposed to be happening during the "Blank Screen" period?

    P.S. The Pagefile is off =D But my HD is still accessed all the time (indexing is off), any clues on that one either?

    Here are the drivers that it indicated didn't load on boot (However, I see other entries that say they did):
    Did not load driver \??\C:\Windows\system32\drivers\hcmon.sys
    Did not load driver \??\C:\Windows\system32\drivers\vmnetuserif.sys
    Did not load driver \??\C:\Windows\system32\drivers\vmx86.sys
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdhid.sys
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srv.sys
    Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\vmnetbridge.sys
     
  3. Meetloaf13

    Meetloaf13 fear the MONKEY!!!

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    I see that my boot has the following commands (switches?):
    /NOEXECUTE /NOGUIBOOT /BOOTLOGO /BOOTLOG /SOS

    I don't recognize the sos or noexecute (doesn't mean they're bad).
     
  4. Les

    Les Not associated with NotebookReview in any way

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    I am feeling your pain but no, I am not familiar with what you are seeing. There is no way you should be getting this even after a Clean Install.

    Can anyone else jump in thats familiar with what he is seeing?
     
  5. devct

    devct Notebook Enthusiast

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    NOEXECUTE: found this online:
    The /NoExecute switch relates to the new data execution prevention (DEP) technologies that Microsoft introduced in Windows 2003 SP1 and Windows XP SP2. DEP technologies help stop malicious code from accessing data pages. Two types of DEP technologies exist: software-enforced and hardware-enforced.

    SOS: and this from microsoft ( http://support.microsoft.com/kb/833721):

    The /sos switch displays the device driver names while they are being loaded. By default, the Windows Loader screen only echoes progress dots. Use this switch with the /basevideo switch to determine the driver that is triggering a failure.
     
  6. Les

    Les Not associated with NotebookReview in any way

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    Meetloaf:

    Do a Clean Install
    Install the needed drivers
    Tweak the system
    THEN do the testing....no other programs and no SP1
     
  7. Meetloaf13

    Meetloaf13 fear the MONKEY!!!

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    I knew someone was going to suggest that. If/when I ever have time, I will definitely try that and let you know.

    Thanks for all your help/suggestions.
     
  8. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    Best tips I've seen anywhere yet and I plan to use them when I do the Dell Clean Install when the new SP1 comes out.

    Repped :)
     
  9. rk_nasa

    rk_nasa Newbie

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    Thanks a lot for these wonderful tips.
     
  10. Les

    Les Not associated with NotebookReview in any way

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    Thank you and Jack for the support...
     
  11. roytse

    roytse Notebook Evangelist

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    flamenko, i just found this on the internet,
    this might be useful for those who have updated or planning to update SP1, I get about 1GB back by applying the exe.

    **after doing this, SP1 will become irreversible think before you do so.**
     
  12. Les

    Les Not associated with NotebookReview in any way

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    I wouldn't touch it until the final version has been sent to automatically update systems.

    Thank you though.

    I would make sure you post this once SP1 is released. Its good info.
     
  13. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Yes, as flamenko said, until we see what happens with all of the folks who downloaded the LAST refresh of the beta and are HOPING that Windows Update treats it as the RTM version, folks should NOT run this cleanup app.

    Now before all of you who have the beta refresh and are sure it is the RTM version start jumping on me. I agree with you that indeed it is. The unknown here is will Windows Update recognize it as the RTM version? Until we have THAT answer folks need to be careful. It most likely will, but we sure as hell don't want to burn a bridge for uninstalling the final beta SP1 if it turns out we need too.

    Gary
     
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    Hey Flam (and others),

    I know I may be beating a dead dog here, but I thought that maybe you had seen this behavior before. I couldn't describe it in words very well, so I made quick video of it.

    During the boot process I have the NOGUIBOOT thing enabled (which allows you to see all the drivers being loaded) it usually scrolls through very quickly and fluidly. As you can see with my video here it blips through slower and not "fluid". I don't know if this is due to something running slower, or just some sort of refresh problem.

    Let me know if this triggers any ideas.

    Thanks again.
     
  15. Les

    Les Not associated with NotebookReview in any way

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    That looks like your system is starting in diagnostic mode.

    Have you done what we all are requesting and reinstalled sans Vista Update and programs yet???
     
  16. Gintoki

    Gintoki Notebook Prophet

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    I really have to thank you once again for these tweaks flamenko, they've really been increasing my performance greatly.
     
  17. diggy

    diggy Notebook Deity

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    Definately so! Until I purchased a machine for my wife, I hadnt really played around with Vista. After coming across this site (most specifically the Tweaks thread) Vista grew on me. I've had nothing but good luck (so far) with the OS, and have not suffered one single BSOD. I even went so far as to install Vista Business on a Dell Latitude D620 that I use at work. I work in our Help Desk, and we havent made the move to Vista yet, but I figured what the heck.
     
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    Gintoki Notebook Prophet

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    Great news diggy, be sure to post here if you have any problems with the tweaks.
     
  19. roytse

    roytse Notebook Evangelist

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    same as you,
    I was google-ing about tweaking vista and found this thread,
    this is how I found this forum :rolleyes:
     
  20. Les

    Les Not associated with NotebookReview in any way

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    So thats two more that came as a result of the Thread!!! Thats great! I figured there had been a few..couldn't imagine putting a number on it though.

    I, along with NBR, have granted the Guides translation in Polish and Finish most recently.
     
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    jaxxx Notebook Consultant

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    23. Clean System Restore and Eliminate Shadow Copies

    If, after careful consideration, you elected to leave System Restore on and pass on Tip #15, there is another great little trick to save space. It is common for new users to write the forums stating that their disk space is dissappearing and they don't know why. By default, System Restore will save a copy of your current desktop on regularly scheduled intervals, whenever something new is installed and also if an error or update occurs with the system. The results in alot of GB of needless backups remaining for no reason. Also, shadow copies of programs are created on expansion after installation, many of which remain their needlessly.

    To get there, follow: Start/Computer/Right Click On 'C'/Disk CleanUp/More Options/System Restore and Shadow Copies/Clean Up

    You can check the space on your drive after this and be amazed!
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    im having problem on the part of after going to "computer" from start..you say to right click on 'C', i dont see it?? i tried right clicking on the hard drive but nothing
     
  22. Mysteree

    Mysteree Notebook Enthusiast

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    right click on C then click on properties or u can also go to run and type in cleanmgr.exe
     
  23. crash

    crash NBR Assassin

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    Or..

    Start>All Programs>Accessories>System Tools>Disk Cleanup
     
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    jaxxx Notebook Consultant

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    Jaxxx why are posting the same thing multiple times?. Also the information you had posted is a well-known fact.
     
  27. crash

    crash NBR Assassin

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    He was trying to quote the tweak he had issues with, but doesn't know how to use the quote tags. :)
     
  28. jaxxx

    jaxxx Notebook Consultant

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    yup i didnt want to quote the whole number of guide so i just copy and pasted the guide i was talking about... my question was under it
     
  29. crash

    crash NBR Assassin

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    This kind of OT, but...

    To put text you're responding to in a quote box, type: [QUOTE]Your text here.[/QUOTE]

    It will show up as...
    For more vB Code, see this.

    Ok, back on topic. :)
     
  30. 1999TL

    1999TL Notebook Enthusiast

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    I received some errors when using dual monitors and some big programs. My video card driver crashed and then had to wake up. It probably had to do with the page filing system turned off. I read more about it, and it seems that in vista, you want to have page filing always turned on, no matter how much ram you have.

    http://tweakhound.com/vista/tweakguide/page_6.htm
     
  31. 1999TL

    1999TL Notebook Enthusiast

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    also, as for the readyboost, it should be noted that you wont really notice any improvement if you have a lot of memory, say 3 gb and up. On top of that, it's not that practical for a laptop unless you used an internal method...
     
  32. Les

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    You wont notice any improvement on readyboost for 2Gb and above for the most part and your monitore problem was probably from the Tweak entitled TMM where it discusses that, not the pagefile tweak.
     
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    1999TL Notebook Enthusiast

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    I never did the TMM tweak b/c I use dual monitors.
     
  34. Gintoki

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    Flamenko, have you seen the PM i sent you about the spelling mistake?
     
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    Thanks for the guild just ran it and got about 3 gigs of space back.
     
  36. crash

    crash NBR Assassin

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    Great! Glad everything worked for you.

    flamenko, I sent you a PM with some thoughts I had about the guide. Let me know what you think. :)
     
  37. hamproof

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    I've a Thinkpad T61p runing Vista Home Premium. If I stop the Workstation service, Firefox (2.0.0.12) will not appear on the desktop when launched.

    When I check the processes using Task Manager, it is running, but it is not visible on the screen.

    The minute I turn on Workstation service again, it appears.

    Weird, huh?
     
  38. Les

    Les Not associated with NotebookReview in any way

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    Yes weird and...in this case maybe you wanna leave it on. Not a fan of Firefox myself.
     
  39. Gintoki

    Gintoki Notebook Prophet

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    It's no problem for me. I used to use Firefox 2.0.0.12 and now i use the Firefox 3 beta 3. Your problem is most likely that it takes a long time to start up.
     
  40. hamproof

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    Actually no. The behavior is repeatable. I even tried it with portable Firefox.

    Workstation service disabled, FF no show but running according to Task Manager.

    Workstation service enabled, FF shows up.
     
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    When i try to disable vista search indexing, i unclick the "index drive for faster searching", hit apply, then i get a bunch of error messages. Do i hit ignore all to these? Also when it "applying attributes to:" it took a a good 5 minutes? is this normal?
     
  42. Gintoki

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    Press "ignore all" and yes, it's supposed to take a while.
     
  43. Leon

    Leon Notebook Deity

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    OMG! Flamenko no longer exists!
     
  44. Les

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    Nope...sorry...still here....
     
  45. Gintoki

    Gintoki Notebook Prophet

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    What is he talking about?
     
  46. Les

    Les Not associated with NotebookReview in any way

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    Removed Flamenko...went with first name. A few have gotten confused over it for some reason.
     
  47. Gintoki

    Gintoki Notebook Prophet

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    But your user title says: "formerly Flamenko".
     
  48. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Wait! Who kidnapped flamenko? Who is this imposter? Someone, quick. call the police... big ol' grin... :D

    Gary
     
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    911... Flamenko is missing.
     
  50. Les

    Les Not associated with NotebookReview in any way

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    Wow.... I never dreamed changing my handle from Flamenko to 'Les', my real name would cause such a reaction. From posts here and on other threads, to pm's, to a call from Interpol, to a personal knock on my door from local police....this has been an adventure to say the least.

    Perhaps it should get its own thread (if anyone really deems it necessary) so people looking for real information on this thread don't spend a great deal of time wondering what the hecks up?

    Heck..whats that Eminem song playing in the backgound?

    "Can I have your attention please? Would the real Flamenko please stand up, please stand up?"
     
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