NBR Vista Tips and Tweaks Guide

hey so does anybody have a suggestion?
oh and flamenko, how many processes do you run at startup?

 

I have 59 process running but I havent really attacked that tweak yet...Im one of these nuts who picks and prods at everything then finally one day puts it all together perfect. I have at least 3-4 more clean installs with fine tuning before I get to where I want.

When you reran tuneXP...what was your time? Did it decrease?

Also, I run an SSD. I dont believe I would be under 30-35sec without the SSD... I must admit though, Tweak # 1 shaved a solid 5 secs in itself.

 

Nope even after removing the program it still works great on my system, if it ever starts lagging again I will just install and run it again since I installed it on my must have program flash drive.

 

ya i think i run now around 1:45ish... i guess i just have a slow boot. plus i have the password enabled. guess i should disable that.

 

I wouldn't. Any password is better than no password, unless you leave it on sticky notes all throughout your office. It's a small hassle to pay for a decent amount of security, and really, who cares about the extra 2 seconds it takes to type in your password.

 

I had a 75 second boot up now I have a 55 second bootup thanks to tune xp. I guess... So its good.

Flamenko: How do i get to that thing to make my ssd faster? I cant find it anywhere.

 

It may be different with a Sony than with a dell, although I wouldnt think so as Intel is Intel...

Check your Sony manual and see how to get to your bios on startup.

With a dell, you hit F12 when the initial Dell screen comes up. It even says it top right of the screen

Once in the bios setup...follow what i wrote before to see if you are in AHCI mode.

 

I think I got to the bios screen.. is that where you can choose the bootup order? I got there! but couldnt find anything about what you were saying...any other way to get there? thanks

 

No...it is where you select your boot order.

Now I dont know exactly what that setup information contains. In Dells setup there is a place for selection of the hard drive in ATA/AHCI mode.

 

Under properties of my hard drive there is something that says "enable advanced performance" but it is unchecked.. should i check it? "enable drive caching" is checked though..

 

Yes and yes...that would be it. Now... if it freezes up at all its because you may need to install the matrix storage Manager which I believe would be available through Sony drivers section. It is also available through Intel.

Some dont require it.

Worst comes to worst, you just come back and change the settings back right.

The change in these settings increased the entire response of my SSD another 10mb/sec

 

Im gonna go to sony support webpage, look for the intel matrix storage thing and then enable advanced performance... Ill reboot, do the hd tune and let you know how it went

 

hey guys, i checked out that anandtech link posted earlier in the thread, the guy there recommends opera over ff/ie, is that actually better than ff or is it just his personal preference?

also anyone know of a tutorial for switching over from firefox/thunderbird to opera? I am thinking of giving it a try. it should be pretty good if nintendo is using it on their wii and ds systems right?

 

No intel matrix storage. I dont have SATA, mine is Ultra ATA. Its 1.8 inch. I checked the advanced performance... and it seems a liiiittle bit faster but more unstable.. ill post the pictures when hd tune finishes

 

Good luck...you remind me of how I do things...

Just barrel ahead and worry about the aftereffects later. It can always be fixed.

 

Nevermind about the unstability. I fixed it, I had utorrent running, I closed it and it was exactly the same as before without the advanced performance thing. Well, maybe it performs better in other stuff. Ill give a try then maybe switch it back if I dont like it.

 

Personally, I saw the diff only in the HDTune tests...

 

Well Im gonna use it for a couple of days. then decide if I keep it... or not. In the meanwhile Ill keep checking here for more tweaks!

 

I try to add them once a day or so...Keep in touch. Us SSD guys need to stick together!

 

Yes! SSD guys rock.. lol! Im very happy with my SSD. I had read that the tz150(100gb 4200rpm) was SUPER NASTY-SLOW. But mine is very very fast actually. Im very happy with it. I love SSD. And besides, I really dont need more than 32 gigs, and even so, I got myself an 8gb memory stick that I have in my computer all the time for movies and music. Love it.

 

Wonderful info guys. TuneXP did help

 

Thank you very much. New tips daily...or until i run out.

 

sofar so good system runs nice back on defaults, boots the same as usual which is something i guess i will have to live with.

 

Did you say yours still boots with the flash on boot?

 

Hi flamenko, could you explain the purpose of doing the above action to me? and what's the SSD that you guys mentions? Thanks..

 

Hey guys.

This has been great, and I intend to try it out. A question though, does anyone know how to get rid of that annoying "double flash" where the screen goes black then comes back again when you are shutting down?

Thanks and regards to all.

 

Wettek:

No...that double flash, to the best of my knowledge, is part of the shutdown process....things closing quickly.

Glad ya like it...

haOkepa:

I was explaining the setup configuration to another SSD user to ensure he is in ACHI mode and not ATA mode.

An ssd is a solid state drive which is different than a hard drive, in that, it doesnt spin. It is similar to flash memory.

 

No one is saying it doesn't work. We are only trying to figure out HOW it works. Trebuin attibuted it to some unseen special defrag, but we now know the only two processes involved are both Microsoft ones. There is no special TweakXP defrag at all, it is using defrage.exe to do its bidding. One only needs to look at the list of running processes to see that. But the results of what TweakXP is doing stand for themselves, it obviously is improving folks boot times. Since the rest of TweakXP is of no use to us, we might be able to create something that accomplishes the same thing if we can get to the bottom of this.

Personally, I think what is happening here is that TweakXP is invoking the very thing that is SUPPOSED to be happening behind the scenes automatically in Vista. But the way Vista is handling this is flawed. It appears that Vista is waiting until there is some slack time to do this and most folks are not leaving their machine sitting idle long enough for that to occur. I am trying to track down the "schedule" by which Vista is supposed to do this. The trials that wax4123 is doing will show if there is something else that TweakXP is doing that is making some difference. Maybe the author has found some other undocumented parameter for defrag.exe. But at this point it is obvious he is using defrag.exe to accomplish this bit of magic.

No one owns any thread here. All threads are open to discussion, that's the entire point of forums like this. You are taking this all much too personally.

Gary

 

Ok, here's how tuneXP is different from windows boot defrag:

1) Windows will defrag and consolidate the boot files.
2) TuneXP will defrag and consolidate the boot files at the beginning of the partition...unlike vista/XP, that's why you see the perfmance boost.

3) TuneXP then calls the standard Defrag that windows uses under the second defrag process.

So there are 2 defrag runs...run it in XP and you will understand.

*edit: actually, I think there are 3 which I only remember through XP, it would bring up the blue scroll bar, then the defrag text, then a message saying not to do anything until the command screen closes. Since I did not write this program, I cannot answer this.

*edit 2: I will not post anymore about this on the thread...I will forward this through Flamenko to be posted on the initial thread. I'm sorry I can't be on very long, but I am currently deployed.

 

Here's what I changed for my services. I put a lot in manual as I can confirm that they will not start unless for some reason it really is needed. Essentially, disabled is changed to manual where it does indeed keep the item from starting. There are three things I set to Automatic over the safe setting's recommended disabled:
1) HID (needed for controllers)
2) PDES (needed for my camera media)
3) WMCLS (needed for sharing media via media center over to my wife's laptop)

Edit 1: attachment did not take.
Edit 2: I did not build this for tablets

 

Using TuneXP i cut my boot time in half. This machine boots in 33secs. Not bad for a D820 with 1.5gig ram. I dont know how it does it, but it does. Thanks flamenko

 

anyone here know what windows services or features control the windows wireless service? google fails me.

I have to keep telling windows to diagnose why the wireless wont start and then it gives me the option to start it which then makes it work, but i want to have it work automatically like it used to before.


any ideas?

 

great thread.since reading i have done some tweaks and did cut out some time.
last nite before bed i timed vista 32 when i shut it down.took 15 secs,and just now it took double that lol. my start up is okay,but after i type my password a black screen appears for like a 1:15 secs.i think i remember reading that,thats the indexing thing.and we should disable it,but on another site they say not to.

 

54 processes at boot. Oddly enough, my load time slowly creeps back to its original 1 minute state unless I continue defrag with tunexp

 

no one, not even me, claimed that TuneXP wasn't having a positive effect. what i said from the start is that TuneXP is using the exact same boot optimizing functions built into XP/Vista to do it's bidding. hence, installing TuneXP, which was last developed in 2004 and for XP, is not necessary so long as you use the command-line defrag with the -b switch. it's as simple as that.

 

I have a G1S.
So, I went and disabled TMM, indexing and the other "various" things, as described. Vista took 45 seconds longer to boot up and my hard drive seems to be accessing a lot more than before. I played Neverwinter Nights 2 and got 2 crashes in 20 minutes with a video card driver failing to respond (never happened before). Loading levels seems to take a lot longer, too.

Strange, huh? I am unable to download the other programs as listed on the front page (I'm deployed and can only access the internet with common area computer that block a lot of websites; no internet on my personal laptop).

 

ERL,

We have some brillian tpeople here to help figure out what you did. Give ud a detailed account of the changes you made, the system you have as well as what has occurred.

Secondly, do you have 'Restore' enabled?

 

Whenever I shut down... My screen flashes black very strangely and then it fades to the "shutting down" screen. Why is that? I dissabled the tmm thing or whatever its called

 

I dont think it has anything to do with the TMM tweak and is the way it shuts down at a quicker pace, hoping anyway.

I know of a quick shutdown tweak Im going to want to work on and maybe include it.

 

I did 1, 3 and 6 (unchecked everything but games).

I did 5 (UAC) the minute I got the computer a few months ago.
I cannot do 2 + 4 (as I mentioned).

I went back after the display driver errors and undid 6, leaving TMM and indexing off.

I have a G1S, and system restore was the second thing I disabled after UAC.

It could be that the graphic driver errors were a complete and total coincidence, but since I've played NWN2 for up to several hours at a time, periodically (almost nightly) , for the past several weeks and have never had an error, I don't think it is. Also, the slower loading times and increased hard drive accessing (noticeably so!) seem strange.
I did a defrag this morning, so we'll see what happens tonight. I can't imagine that turning indexing off would cause all this disk activity?

 

Actually, none of the Tweaks I have posted would do that.

I cant see that turning off any of those windows features would create that but maybe turn them back on and see.

 

That's what I thought, too, Flamenko. I mean, I'm not exactly a computer illiterate, but it is noticeably slower. I'll give it another night or two of playing around....maybe it just takes a day.

Also, I don't know if it's any relation, but when I disabled indexing, it popped up a box that said c:\boot\memtest.exe is in use (ignore, ignore all, etc)

When I hit ignore, it came up with quite a few other programs from the c:\boot\ directory before I finally hit ignore all.

Typical, or odd?

 

Never heard of that at all...Im gonna leave a pm for Treb to check out and give me his take on this.

 

Definitely odd.

 

BTW regarding tweak #5... turning off UAC after using it for a while can cause some software to stop working properly. Also, turning it on after having it disabled initially can cause problems. Therefore, you should indicate that if they want to turn it off they should do so initially and not turn it on again, or conversly, if they've had it on for a while, they should probably not turn it off.

 

I have never experienced this or read about it anywhere in information articles but I will do some background and include that if it be the case.

 

Super. I'll just hope that my laptop hangs on until I can get home to format it (where I can reload everything with patches, etc). Until then......I hope I didn't screw anything up.
If I did, you're going to be reading in the paper about flamenko's lifeless corpse . (just kidding.....probably)

 

What system are you using...a G1? Video Card???

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=2427783

you have been warned of this before.. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=2438675#post2438675

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Account_Control#Criticism

http://technet2.microsoft.com/Windo...2b2f-422c-b70e-b18ff918c2811033.mspx?mfr=true
^everything you could ever want to know about UAC

Basically, the problem lies with file and registry virtualization, which UAC implements. I don't fully understand it so don't ask for a detailed analysis of it, but I know that it messes up settings and files when altered.

 

He said he has a G1s. That means he has a 8600GT 256MB DDR3 video card.