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    Need URGENT Word assistance.

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by eleron911, Oct 13, 2008.

  1. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    My friend has a thesis that he has to present tomorrow and it needs a few final adjustments...
    First, he needs to have only certain pages numbered, not all of them (say from 4-30) ..
    Then , the same thing for headers and footers...
    Can I exclude them from the numbering process and start the numbering at 4 for example?
    I know what you`re going to say, split the documents and make it like that.
    Well, yea, thought about it, but I need to know if it`s possible this way also.
    Thanks :)
     
  2. David

    David NBR Random Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    If this is in MS word 2003, then....
    Insert -> Page Numbers -> Format -> Under 'Page Numbering' select 'start at' and choose the page number you want the numbering to start.
     
  3. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Ok, so how do I remove the older numbering?
    Also, that only makes the numbering start with the digit I choose, not from the page I want..
     
  4. Meetloaf13

    Meetloaf13 fear the MONKEY!!!

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    ...before you get REALLY frustrated, the numbering system in Office 2003 is crap. You may want to do it manually by splitting as you mentioned.

    If you can figure it out though, more power to you, b/c I've spent too much time trying to get things the way I want in Office. If you want to not have numbers on some pages, it may be as easy as putting a white box with no border over the pages you don't want numbers on :)

    Good luck1
     
  5. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    I`ve also got Office 2007, didn`t use it before.
    I found some help online, but I`m missing some key features, like Header and Footer Design...so still no good.
     
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    You've seen this?
     
  7. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    That's what I`m using.
    So I`ve split the sections, and when starting to number the pages again, I choose to start from 1 and he starts from 2, like ...
    1
    2
    3
    2
    3
    4
    etc..
    Word is dumb, ****it!
     
  8. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Figured that one out.
    Now, how do I remove headers and footers just from SPECIFIC pages without messing up the numbering system? :confused:
     
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    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Ok, how can I make ONLY SOME pages show the numbers?
    I don`t want pages 5 ,6 and 32312312 to show the numbers..
    I wish they`d make Office idiot proof, but I`m excelling at this field really fast...
     
  11. Meetloaf13

    Meetloaf13 fear the MONKEY!!!

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    If you're ready to print, and you don't want to beef w/e Office 2003, Place white boxes w/o borders on top of them :)
     
  12. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    I want a very simple thing and Word 2003 is just too messed up for me right now, can`t figure out squat.
    I want to remove headers from the first page of every chapter(5 chapters in total), start numbering from page 5 to 30, and pages 1-5 and 30-36 to be without numbers...

    Jesus Christ, and to think they want a retail price of a few houndred dollars for this messed up suite!
    Thank God for school advantages...
     
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    AFAIK, you can remove header for the first page of every chapter (it was pretty easy to do this, from what I read in the tutorials and guides), and use section breaks to number them... number them starting from page 6, using the suggestions mentioned before and stop at 29.. use section break, start page numbering from 36 and stop wherever u want to, next.... No??? It doesn't work this way???? :eek:

    Man... reading this thread has just made me see the dark side of word (though I have been using word for the past 8 or so years!!!) LOL.. :D never had any issues like this though.. :D
     
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    Meetloaf13 fear the MONKEY!!!

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    I'd say to throw it in OPenOffice...but you'd undoubtedly lose some formatting...and who knows it it would be any easier ;\
     
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    No idea if this will work.

     
  16. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    The section breaking is not really clear to me.
    I got the idea that you can divide the text into sections, and I have different headers for all of the chapters.
    However, if I remove one page numbering, Word automatically deletes all the page numbers on all pages.
    Same thing applies to the headers/footnotes...
    Therefore my predicament...
     
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    Well the idea here is to "separate"('Link to previous' option - unchecked) the selected page from the others so when you remove the numbering it won't affect on the whole document...
     
  18. Shyster1

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    Eleron:

    For each page that you want to do something different with, you'll need to insert a section break at the start of the page (and a second section break at the end of the last page to be affected if you don't want the changes to go on to other pages that follow that last page).

    Next, you'll need to get to the headers/footers tool bar (which should pop up as a free-floating tool-bar if you click on the menu item "view headers and footers..."), and on there you'll see a little symbol with two yellow rectangles and an arrow going from one to the other - clicking on that will turn off, or turn on, the functionality that causes the settings of a prior section to carry over to subsequent sections.

    I would remove page numbers and (to the extent you won't lose valuable data/text) existing headers and footers. Then, go into the document and set up all of the section breaks you need, making sure to turn off the functionality that causes the settings of the first section to be imposed on subsequent sections. Finally, go into each section and set up your page numbers and headers/footers.
     
  19. kegobeer

    kegobeer 1 hr late but moving fast

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    In Word's defense, you are trying to do things that are so "non-standard" it isn't fair to expect Word to fit your needs. You won't find any word processing application that is configured to allow people to make headers and footers on the 1st, 5th, 8th, 9th, and 10th pages, but make the rest the same - the same thing goes for numbering pages (a general statement about what you want - don't reply saying that it isn't the 9th page).

    The best way to attempt what you want is to create a new document, configure the headers and footers, the copy some of the text, insert a new section and/or header (making sure to not inherit the previous header/footer/section), copy more text, etc. Rinse and repeat. The absolutely easiest way is to manually edit each header and footer and add whatever text you want.
     
  20. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Restarting with a new document file that's had the sections set up (and inheritance turned off) first, and then cutting and pasting in the text is a good idea, so long as there's not too much specialized formatting on the body text that's going to get lost when the cut-n-paste is done.

    It's not so much that he's trying to do something Word wasn't designed to do, but more the case that he's trying to do what most users don't need to do out of the box, and so the default settings on Word are tripping him up. That being the case, starting fresh with a new document with the settings set for what he wants to do would be the best way to go - although that might not be possible with the given time constraints.
     
  21. kegobeer

    kegobeer 1 hr late but moving fast

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    I've had a lot of practice using Word with special formatting, and subsequently with tons of frustration and wasted days. I've seen entire sections of text disappear after inserting section breaks and custom headers/footers in an already complete document, and spent hours upon hours trying to figure out how to fix it. I learned that it is always faster to create a new document when dealing with custom headers/footers than it is to reverse engineer a document for custom headers/footers.

    I believe that the Microsoft help on headers/footers says the same thing, in slightly more eloquent wording (of course).
     
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    Sounds like precedent documents - I've had some that had such messed up internal formatting from being used as the base for too many new documents that really strange things like that started happening as well.
     
  23. DetlevCM

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    I don't know if anybody mentioned this, but in Ofice2007, you can add all age numbers, then go into the header/footnotes and remove the ones you don't need without affecting the ones you do need.
     
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    Well, I kinda figured it out somehow.
    Breaking eveything into sections and treating them as individual portions...

    However, I don`t know if I could do it all over again, haha :D
    Thanks guys...