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    New Defrag Program: Opinions

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Meetloaf13, May 23, 2008.

  1. Meetloaf13

    Meetloaf13 fear the MONKEY!!!

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    Curios what your opinions are on this new program.

    I'm not up to snuff on Defrag programs to know whether what they're advertising will actually make a difference.

    Basically you can control where on the disk any file goes.

    Linky:
    http://freewaregeeks.com/UltimateDefrag_Free.html
     
  2. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    Wow have not seen this one before. I like how the graphical representation is actually a disk. I wonder how accurate of a representation it is? I use JKDefrag myself when I want to do a thorough defrag as it seems to do all this stuff auto-magically, and very well too. It has a command line feature set similar to what this tool is claiming but i don't think it has as polished a GUI as this one. If I just want to do a quick defrag I'll use Auslogic as it is very quick. Not sure if I feel up to the task to take the time to specify which files need to be on the fastest part of the disc. I prefer the tool to do it. Nonetheless this looks like a cool tool and I am curious how it performs as well.
     
  3. A#1

    A#1 Notebook Consultant

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    i use and have used Diskeeper for a number of years...although there have been software upgrades...i still prefer the version 9...if you have your drive partitioned like i do...you can defrag more than one partition at a time...plus Diskeeper will set the recommended MFT...automatically pad you drive and or partitions...creating a buffer to lessen the amount of fragmentation to your drive...my .02 cents

    A#1
     
  4. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    I could be wrong but I think Diskkeeper is the stripped down/built in defrag program Microsoft uses for XP and Vista.
     
  5. A#1

    A#1 Notebook Consultant

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    yes you are wrong...independend third party software
    [​IMG]
     
  6. Rodster

    Rodster Merica

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    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848

    MORE INFORMATION

    Disk Defragmenter MMC is based on the full retail version of Executive Software Diskeeper. The version that is included with Windows XP and later provides limited functionality in maintaining disk performance by defragmenting volumes that use the FAT, FAT32, or NTFS file system.
     
  7. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    I use DKeeper, and it stays in the background, and the system is maintain snappy.
    I`ll let you guys try this one, I`m happy with DK :)
     
  8. MaXimus

    MaXimus Notebook Deity

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    so what's the performance difference between PerfectDisk and the built in Vista Defragger
     
  9. Arki

    Arki Super Moderator

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    Any Windows (XP, Vista) built-in defragmenter is not good. It defrags the data but it doesn't push it to the beginning of the disk.

    I tested this by defragmenting using Windows' defragmenter and then analyzing using the same defragmenter. The data was packed together but it was spread out everywhere. No matter how many times I defragmented, it stayed the same way; organized clutter.

    I compared the defragmenters to JKDefrag's. Not only did JKDefrag defragment the data, it also pushed it to the fastest end of the HDD (the outside track).

    But here's the kicker; after I defragmented with JKDefrag, I decided to defrag with Windows'. Guess what? It made all the data cluttered again!

    Conclusion: Windows' defragmenter defragments, but then spreads the data out all over the HDD on purpose.
     
  10. Meetloaf13

    Meetloaf13 fear the MONKEY!!!

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    So, if I gather correctly Ark, what you're saying is that JK optimizes as well (which is this new program claims to do as well)...the only difference is you can't select which files get priority on the "beach-side real-estate" (if you catch my drift).

    Ja?
     
  11. kanehi

    kanehi Notebook Deity

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    MaximumPC has defrag softwares reviewed. I personally use Auslogics and find it better than others including Vista's own defrag program.
     
  12. McGrady

    McGrady Notebook Virtuoso

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    oii. auslogics defrag is crap. doesnt do anything. the scan is too fast for anything to possibly get defragged. jkdefrag ftw.
     
  13. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    Agreed 100%, and the default defrag in Vista is even worse than the XP one. JKDefrag is top notch.

    I believe using the command line options you can choose what files/folders get moved/defragged, you just can't specify exactly where they go. But as I said earlier I'd rather let the tool figure it all out, I have better things to do than analyze and sort a million files on my HDD o_O
     
  14. ATG

    ATG 2x4 Super Moderator

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    JKDefrag crashes here so I'm stuck with Auslogics
     
  15. Arki

    Arki Super Moderator

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    Definitely. I take this advice from their site.

    Commandline stuff. That's why I don't use JKDefragGUI. It's just all the commands into buttons, which is good, but I only use the "-a 7" once and then just run JKDefrag.exe normally from then on.
     
  16. wojwoda

    wojwoda GN-003 Gundam Kyrios

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    I use Diskeeper 2008. It has option to defrag VSS :D.
     
  17. -Amadeus Excello-

    -Amadeus Excello- Notebook Evangelist

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    O&O Defrag has done fine by me.
     
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    timtravel42 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Auslogics works fine for me, but ill consider
     
  19. Meetloaf13

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    Hi.

    I just tried ultimate defrag, but in auto mode it leaves my system with 28% fragmentation?

    Regards

    John.
     
  21. kanehi

    kanehi Notebook Deity

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    Auslogics does do a fast job at defragmenting but it could be from better algorithm. I've tried System Mechanics before and others and some of them mess up the loading time. It actually took longer to reboot and sometimes reboots 2 or more time before the system is up and running and don't see 'significant' performance. I used to believe the hype of restructuring the programs on the hard drive for faster loading but with today's technology it's not that advantageous.
     
  22. Thund3rball

    Thund3rball I dont know, I'm guessing

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    This is probably why.