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    Notebook Hardware Control- version slection

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by aigle, Mar 2, 2006.

  1. aigle

    aigle Notebook Consultant

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    I want to use Notebook Hardware Control. I went to its site but it has so many versions and many of them still beta. Just wonder which version I should use.

    Also can it be used on desktop as well.

    Thanks
     
  2. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    Take the latest - version 1.10 beta 1. It has graphs, and disk standby that works.

    Cheers,
     
  3. aigle

    aigle Notebook Consultant

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    Juat have few questions about it

    1- Can it be used on desktop as well.
    2- Has it all the options of Speed Fan.
    3- How much resources it uses?
     
  4. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    Hi aigle,
    1. It can.
    2. I don't know. It can control fans on some boards. It works flawlessly on many Asus notebooks for example. Next version will support ACPI fan, and we'll see.
    3. 5-12 MB RAM depending what are you doing with it. Normally only 5, graphs take 12 in total. (but count in the .Net framework 2.0 that needs to be installed as well). And if you already use any .NET program (CCC for example) it is already there.

    Cheers,
     
  5. aigle

    aigle Notebook Consultant

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    I have .NetframeWork 1 now. I am downloading version 2 and will install it. Is there any disadvantage of it? Also i am not sure whether I should first uninstall version 1 or not? No detail on microsoft site.
    thanks
     
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    nickspohn Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    You can have both. But if it gives you trouble, just uninstall Version 1 afterwards....
     
  7. strikeback03

    strikeback03 Notebook Deity

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    is there anything that won't run on 2 and needs 1? is there a reason it did not automatically uninstall 1?
     
  8. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    Although the 2 should upgrade the 1, there are some security things that were changed and some programs written with .NF1 in mind will not function properly. I have them both, so far that was the best solution for me. I don't see anything too bad about it. And I agree they should have done the complete succession with NF2.

    Cheers,
     
  9. qohelet

    qohelet Senior Member

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    Ivan,
    What are the benefits of using the "custom dynamic switching" in NHC? NHC has too skimpy explanation about the benefits of using this function.

    Aigle,
    Sorry to ask this question to Ivan in this thread. I just don't want to post anew thread. :) I think my question is a little related in this thread since it's also about NHC. :)
     
  10. aigle

    aigle Notebook Consultant

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    You are welcome.
     
  11. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    Hi aigle,

    Custom dynamic switching allows you to determine what percentage load on CPU turns to minimum or maximum multiplier. In other words when the CPU logic determines to switch either to the lowest or the highest multiplier. It also allows you to set what multiplier should be the min and what max. Like narrowing the multiplier choice for the CPU. You can also change the time in milliseconds that determines how dynamically the changes will happen. So higher time means less jumping in multipliers, but also the speed is more constant.

    It can be useful for fine tuning with the processes that last long and don't use either the lowest or highest default multiplier. SO you can actually force your CPU to using the max multiplier very seldom for example. But isn't it easier to just lock the min multiplier when you need max battery and that is it?

    I don't use it because statistically 99% of the time CPU spends in either min or max speed so why bother? It is much better to undervolt min and max multipliers in my opinion and get the benefit in the form of a much lower temperature in games. Default multipliers are already the lowest and the highest possible.

    It would be good if you could set the EVEN LOWER multiplier than default and EVEN HIGHER than max. Then I would use this feature big time. This isn't impossible as many people think. Multipliers are not LOCKED permanently. So far I saw only one notebook that could use multiplier 4x with the PM 1,86 that has the lowest multiplier of 6x. It changes to this "silent mode" by pressing the button - so there must be some hardware behind it that sets the CPU to such low multipliers.

    Hope it helps,
     
  12. qohelet

    qohelet Senior Member

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    Quite an elaborate explanation. Thanks a Lot! :)

    additional question: Do you know of any software that can overclock my PM Dothan? thanks for the answer. :D
     
  13. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    As far as I know there is only one software that worked with mobile platforms and that I tried: ClockGen. Unfortunately there is no version that supports the i915 chipset clocks, so that is a big NO for Dothans. 855 works great. My old Asus M6N with banias 1.6 was overclocked to 1,9 GHz and was really fast. Faster than others with stonger CPUs at the time. The thing is that overclocking CPU is in fact overclocking the FSB clock that connects memory and CPU. Memory + FSB + CPU oveclock synergy gives super results even with very small numbers like 5%. My 1,86@1,96 is faster than Dothan 2.0. And I have it as a feature in BIOS. Of course at 5% overclock there is no heat difference that can be noticed. :) It is similar like with GPUs if you manage to make memory faster - everything is faster. But unlike GPUs - main memory is bound to the same clock like FSB and CPU, so in fact you must overclock everything and therefore it is much harder, because the chain is strong as the weakest link.

    Cheers,
     
  14. aigle

    aigle Notebook Consultant

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    Installed NHC today but it is not able to read CPU temp! So is the mobile meter. Only HD temp I can get. It,s disappointing.
     
  15. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    I have seen this only once - in Vista beta2! Unlucky.... :( Perhaps Toshiba has blocked it? Can you see it in bios maybe?

    Cheers,