The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    Phoenix Software Updates

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 2, 2016.

  1. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

    Reputations:
    39,567
    Messages:
    23,559
    Likes Received:
    36,826
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Internet Download Manager updated to v6.30 (Build 5)
     
  2. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    4,879
    Messages:
    8,923
    Likes Received:
    4,701
    Trophy Points:
    431
    This is a cool program, but I will never purchase it because the developer's definition of "lifetime license" is only 3 years of updates. By contrast, my lifetime Adguard license is just that - free updates and technical support for as long as the company is in business.
     
    Spartan@HIDevolution likes this.
  3. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

    Reputations:
    39,567
    Messages:
    23,559
    Likes Received:
    36,826
    Trophy Points:
    931
    I never looked so much into that to be honest, the price is nothing for what the program offers. That is one of the first apps I install and one that I cannot live without. Not only because it offers faster download speeds, but more importantly, it allows me to download streaming videos with the click of a button to save for later viewing. Like on YouTube for example, if you click the download button, it even gives you options for what quality you want to download the video in.

    This is one of the must have paid apps and nothing even comes close to it. What I do when I install it is delete those stupid categories and disable download completion notification. I don't like downloading files into categories, they all go into my downloads folder and from there, I manually put them in the correct folder like videos or programs. I advice you to bite the bullet bro :eek:

    [​IMG]

    Tip: They monitor the license usage by the PC Name. so I name my taptop TITAN

    if I switch to another laptop and also name it Titan, I can activate just fine. If I change the PC Name, they think that you installed it on another PC and thus you would need to contact them to change your PC name in their license database although that only happens if you changed the PC name a lot they are lenient about this and Dave from their customer service is fast to respond and very helpful.
     
    UNCNDL1 and slimmolG like this.
  4. saturnotaku

    saturnotaku Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    4,879
    Messages:
    8,923
    Likes Received:
    4,701
    Trophy Points:
    431
    It would be super helpful if they implemented a system where the end user can activate and de-activate licenses online, just like what Adguard does. This way if you forget or don't bother to rename your computer after an OS install, or want to transfer the license to a new PC, it can easily be done.
     
  5. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

    Reputations:
    39,567
    Messages:
    23,559
    Likes Received:
    36,826
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Garmin Express updated to v6.0.0.0

    WhoCrashed updated to v6.01

    NSudo updated to v5.3.1801.11

    • Fix a potential bug when NSudo obtaining the System Token. (Thanks to mingkuang.)
    • Provide VC-LTL support for NSudo release configuration for x86 and x86-64 (AMD64). (Thanks to mingkuang.)
      • PS: Compiling NSudo with VC-LTL can reduce the NSudo's binary size.
    • Maintaining documents.
     
    Papusan likes this.
  6. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

    Reputations:
    39,567
    Messages:
    23,559
    Likes Received:
    36,826
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Internet Download Manager updated to v6.30 (Build 6)

    SUPERAntiSpyware udated to v6.0.1254
     
    Vasudev and Papusan like this.
  7. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

    Reputations:
    42,691
    Messages:
    29,835
    Likes Received:
    59,599
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Today's Updates: 01/15/2018 Macrium Reflect v7.1.2833
    Bug Fixes v7.1.2833 - 14th January 2018:

    • MIG Service install problem
      The Macrium Image Guardian Service could fail to start. This has been resolved.
    • EXT 4 File System image size
      Linux EXT 4 file system images could be unnecessarily large. This has been resolved.
    • Free Edition prompt for Windows PE rebuild
      The Free Edition of Macrium Reflect could prompt for a rebuild even if the rescue media was up to date. This has been resolved.
     
    Vasudev likes this.
  8. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

    Reputations:
    39,567
    Messages:
    23,559
    Likes Received:
    36,826
    Trophy Points:
    931
    madVR updated to v0.92.11


    powerMAX added to the list v1.00 (from CPUID)

    powerMAX stresses your PC in such a way that it may reveal the weakness of some of the components, and cause non-reversible damage to mainboard VRMs, video card VRM, PSU, or any other component. For that reason, powerMAX has to be used at your entire responsibility and CPUID shall not be liable for any damage which may arise as a result of your use of powerMAX.


    What is (and what is not) powerMAX ?

    powerMAX is a CPU and GPU burn-in test. It is aimed to maximize the power dissipation and the temperature of these two components. There are several ways to use powerMAX :
    • CPU test : allows to check the CPU stability (in case of overclocking for example), and if the CPU cooling system does its job correctly.
    • GPU test : same, but for GPU.
    • CPU + GPU tests in the same time : maximizes the full system power consomption, and therefore ensures that the PSU can handle the peak power required by the CPU and GPU simultaneously.

    powerMAX generates no performance or stability score, and therefore is not a benchmark.

    2018-01-16_010203.png

    @Papusan Please test your CPU and GPU and lemme know if you smell anything funny from your taptop [​IMG]


    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    @Mr. Fox @Falkentyne check your power draw while using this [​IMG]

    @Prema
     
  9. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    8,396
    Messages:
    5,992
    Likes Received:
    8,633
    Trophy Points:
    681
    Not even. My VRM's will probably shut off. This depends though on if it uses FMA3 instructions or not. There is a built in current limit on our MSI laptops which seems to be temperature curve based (meaning it triggers at high current and may trigger sooner at higher temp than lower temp. NOT talking about #PROCHOT here). Desktops have a "CPU Current protection" setting, to avoid "System shutoff" at very high current (i saw this post in some Skylake-X thread), where you can raise or remove this type of protection. Laptops don't have that setting. Pretty sure it's in the EC. Premamods may allow absolute limits to be reached. Maybe I'll consider it, If it uses FMA3 then nope! my OCD will just rage at me again.

    If you're brave, like Phoenix is supposed to be, try it on your laptop with cooler boost at maximum. If it shuts off and shuts on in 2 seconds, it's VRM overload protection.
     
    Vasudev likes this.
  10. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

    Reputations:
    39,567
    Messages:
    23,559
    Likes Received:
    36,826
    Trophy Points:
    931
    ok let's not use this guys, it put abnormal load on the CPU, I reached 99C within 10 seconds and I wasn't even at my 4.4 GHz overclock only 4.2 GHz

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

    Reputations:
    37,213
    Messages:
    39,333
    Likes Received:
    70,624
    Trophy Points:
    931
    I have a strict policy against pointlessly abusing women, children, animals and property. I get all the stability validation I require from benchmark scores, so I do not normally stress test computer hardware. As a result, I rarely experience hardware failures. I do run into to some defective stuff now and then, but nothing that gets killed due to abuse. I'm just not a mean person like that.
     
  12. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    8,396
    Messages:
    5,992
    Likes Received:
    8,633
    Trophy Points:
    681
    Are you using liquid metal?
    Your temps are because of your VID boosting. you're putting 1.3v into that CPU with VID boost. You need to remove that VID boost.

    With 1.175v manual vcore, 4.5 ghz, and IA AC DC loadline=5, my VID stayed at 1.21v and my temps were 71/77/71/77 after about 45 seconds. I did one quick run and temps ended at (i forgot). I'll run it again to check.

    BTW Powercut seems to be nothing more than Prime 95 small FFT with either AVX or FMA3 (not sure which), with a custom FFT size (possibly 14K).
     
    Vasudev likes this.
  13. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

    Reputations:
    39,567
    Messages:
    23,559
    Likes Received:
    36,826
    Trophy Points:
    931
    I am using Liquid Metal yes, at the time of that stress test, I did nothing, not even an undervolt maybe that's why but where is that VID Boost located? I know there is an option in the BIOS called Auto Voltage Optimization that's set to enabled
     
    Vasudev likes this.
  14. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

    Reputations:
    9,368
    Messages:
    6,297
    Likes Received:
    16,482
    Trophy Points:
    681
    Just start powermax & furmark and go grocery shopping, but don't forget to get a return shipping label before heading home. :p
     
    Mr. Fox, Robbo99999, ajc9988 and 5 others like this.
  15. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    8,396
    Messages:
    5,992
    Likes Received:
    8,633
    Trophy Points:
    681
    VID BOOST is the 1.80 mOhms reference setting for IA AC DC loadline. Higher resistance=VID rises more at load. Lower resistance=VID remains almost same at load as idle. Lowest resistance value is 1 (0.01 mOhms) in core I/A Domain. Values of 1, 2 and 3 however will cause excessive "vdroop" because these taptops do not have loadline calibration (LLC). Basically this setting sort of compensates for no LLC setting for direct vcore, in an awkward way. Also the VID you see in HWinfo is not vcore. There is no vcore sensor so you cant know your true "Live" vcore easily at all.

    Using Conductonaut LM

    This is my run. 100% COOLER boost, 4.5 ghz,, Bios vcore=1.175v 1175mv, AC DC Loadline set to 5 in Intel I/A Core Domain. this is 0.05 mOhms. (the default auto (0) value uses a reference value of 180 !!! which is 1.80 mOhms.

    phoenix.jpg

    tl;dr: powercut is nothing more than some sort of prime 95 type of small FFT AVX or FMA3 code.
     
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2018
    Spartan@HIDevolution likes this.
  16. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    8,396
    Messages:
    5,992
    Likes Received:
    8,633
    Trophy Points:
    681
    If you want to test without VID boost, you have to decide whether you are using Adaptive or Static voltages first.

    If you're using static voltages, you need to know what voltage you are stable at first (otherwise you will crash and burn), then in CPU POWER AND PERFORMANCE->CPU POWER SETTINGS (forgot)->CORE I/A DOMAIN-->IA AC Loadline, and IA DC Loadline, set these from 0 (reference value of 180, or 1.80 mOhms), to 5 (0.05 mOhms).

    This will probably require at LEAST a static voltage of 1.150v or 1150mv. At 4.5 ghz, you may need 1200mv. Only you would be able to find out and test.

    If you're using ADAPTIVE VOLTAGE, adaptive voltage uses the "CPU Default VID" for a set mhz speed, then applies VID boosting to it at load. I don't know what your default VID is at 4.3 ghz.
    However, removing the VID boost and using an IA AC DC loadline of 5 with adaptive voltage at 4.3 ghz will most likely cause an instant BSOD at load as you will probably not be stable. THIS DEPENDS ON YOUR DEFAULT VID.

    To fix this, use a POSITIVE voltage offset to match the stability of your "Static" override voltage.

    Example:
    From MY chip:
    My CPU has DEFAULT VID of 1.08v at 4.5 ghz.
    to find your DEFAULT VID, set IA AC DC Loadline to 1 (lowest value) and boot into windows and check the VID. DO NOT APPLY LOAD TO YOUR CPU.

    Then find out your STABLE VID.
    MY cpu has a STABLE VID of 1175mv --1.175v at 4.5 ghz.

    To create stability with adaptive voltage then, if you remove the VID BOOST, which starts at 1.08v VID at 4.5 ghz, I would need a POSITIVE OFFSET of 100mv :) Easy. Simple.

    (with VID boost intact (IA AC DC Loadline=auto or 0), your VID would be 1.08 at full idle and 1.23v at full load.

    See?

    **warning WARNING WARNING WARNING**

    DO NOT GO ANYWHERE NEAR THE UPPER LIMITS OF IA AC DC LOADLINE. PERIOD. NO ONE SHOULD EVER EVER USE A VALUE HIGHER THAN THE REFERENCE VALUE OF 180, PERIOD. EVER. A value of over 1000 could probably destroy the VRM's.
     
  17. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    7,110
    Messages:
    20,384
    Likes Received:
    25,139
    Trophy Points:
    931
    The nice thing about that is you can follow the Smoke Plume back to find home :)
     
  18. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

    Reputations:
    42,691
    Messages:
    29,835
    Likes Received:
    59,599
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Why not test it again when you come home with brand new hardware? Maybe you had faulty hardware before you even started testing :D If people think notebooks have same cooling, same amount high quality vrm's and same hardware protection as the best desktops out there, Oh'well, let them use some of their hard earned money :rolleyes: Just be sure you have proper income as below :p
    [​IMG]
     
    Robbo99999, Vasudev and Falkentyne like this.
  19. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    8,396
    Messages:
    5,992
    Likes Received:
    8,633
    Trophy Points:
    681
    I'm not testing the GPU component, and i don't suggest anyone do it on a laptop.
    Furmark and OCCT GPU tests are throttled by the Nvidia (and AMD) drivers already. I told people already that if you wanted to see non throttled furmark, you have to rename the executable to something like Quake3.exe. This worked years ago (back when Furmark was famous for blowing up GPU VRM's), and I don't know if the drivers are patched to detect code paths rather than exe names for throttling now. You could probably test for that by clocking your GPU *WAY* down then renaming furmark.exe.

    OCCT is also throttled. I've done the OCCT PSU test for an hour at 4.5 ghz, with 1070 at 185W TDP, GPU at +150/+600, and no boom, and the GPU core clocks are significantly lower than they should be, with usage at 99%. GPU temps were quite low (didn't exceed 63C) and core clocks were like around 1800 rather than the low 2000's, thus=throttled. Yet it wasn't even showing POWER LIMIT throttling...

    I don't know what this program does on the GPU side but I'm sure not running it. The CPU side 'seems' to be using some type of FMA3 code path. it says "AVX", but the core temp differentials are HIGHER than prime95 small FFT with AVX enabled (FMA3 disabled). I even tried FMA3 enabled prime small FFT at 4.4 ghz and the core temp differentials were LOWER delta on prime95, but HIGHER POWER DRAW (like 4W higher), than this program's AVX test. 4W less power draw, but higher temp deltas and higher temps with "AVX" selection.

    If it's truly using AVX, it's MORE Stressful than prime 95 AVX. This thing is no joke.
    Funny thing is my VRM's didn't shut off at 4.5. ghz during this test, and I had no event viewer WHEA correctable errors too. Probably would shut off at 90C though.

    Someone should email them and ask if they're using AVX or FMA3 paths.

    Regardless, if this is more stressful than prime 95 small FFT with AVX, I would NOT RUN THE GPU PART ON A LAPTOP unless you have money for a new GPU.
     
    Vasudev likes this.
  20. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

    Reputations:
    42,691
    Messages:
    29,835
    Likes Received:
    59,599
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Although you overclock, core temp is low and clocks is throttled down... How can you be sure how the status is on the VRM's ? + rest of components (paths osv)? You can easly kill components on hardware although you seems to have ok temp on the cores. The pure core is the last of the hardware who will brake down. But not MY money. So just *keep* on :hi:
     
    Vasudev likes this.
  21. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    12,035
    Messages:
    11,277
    Likes Received:
    8,814
    Trophy Points:
    931
    There is an entry to power throttle OCCT and Furmark in nvidia but its disabled by default.
    This is my run. I hate furball based GPU testing since I won't be looking at it while gaming. I usually want to see buildings, humans, animals etc while using GPU stress test, so I used GPU caps viewer's Rain forest OpenGL 2.x test.
    I ran CPU max for 5 mins and forgot to take a screenie so re-ran it for a min.
    Again, Dell's fan profile responds late and causes the temps to hit upper 90C on pure passive cooling. Had to use hwinfo fans to cool it below 90C. cpu_max.png

    And couple of insurance policies will certainly help.
     
    hmscott, Prema, Papusan and 1 other person like this.
  22. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

    Reputations:
    42,691
    Messages:
    29,835
    Likes Received:
    59,599
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Today's Updates: 01/16/2018 Samsung Magician v5.2

    But as you can see... :D
    upload_2018-1-16_9-41-18.png

    GPU-Z v2.6.0
    v2.6.0 (January 16th, 2018)
    • Sensor refresh will no longer lag the GPU-Z window
    • Fixed GPU-Z not starting at all due to broken UPX EXE compressor
    • Fixed crashes on RX Vega
    • Fixed fan RPM monitoring on RX Vega
    • Added support for Radeon Adrenalin Edition
    • RX560 GPU renamed from Baffin to Polaris 21 at AMD's request
    • Added support for NVIDIA Titan V, GeForce GTX 1060 5 GB, Tesla K40m, GeForce 825M, Quadro M520, NVIDIA NVS 810, NVIDIA Grid M6-8Q
    • Added support for AMD Vega 8 Raven Ridge Graphics, Pro WX 9100
    • Added support for Intel HD Graphics P630, UHD Graphics 630, Gemini Lake UHD Graphics 600
    • Fixed GP100 die size
    • Fixed Braswell 16 vs 12 EU count
     
    Vasudev and Spartan@HIDevolution like this.
  23. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

    Reputations:
    39,567
    Messages:
    23,559
    Likes Received:
    36,826
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Classical Samsung Swiss Cheese :rolleyes:

    CCleaner updated to v5.39.6399

    Disk Analyzer
    - Fixed a rare crash where a UI layer was still active

    General
    - Minor user interface improvements
    - Minor bug fixes
     
    Vasudev likes this.
  24. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    12,035
    Messages:
    11,277
    Likes Received:
    8,814
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Where's the link to download latest version? :)
    Do you use BOTIM now?
     
  25. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

    Reputations:
    39,567
    Messages:
    23,559
    Likes Received:
    36,826
    Trophy Points:
    931
    As usual, it takes up to 24 hours for the link to actually work. Piriform is very annoying, they release a new version and a changelog with no fucntioning downloadl ink

    Please please please stop any OT discussions man, you do this in many threads and it's not nice.
     
  26. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    12,035
    Messages:
    11,277
    Likes Received:
    8,814
    Trophy Points:
    931
    CCleaner Builds page is missing. So Slim and portable versions will be delayed.
     
  27. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

    Reputations:
    39,567
    Messages:
    23,559
    Likes Received:
    36,826
    Trophy Points:
    931
    [​IMG]
     
  28. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    12,035
    Messages:
    11,277
    Likes Received:
    8,814
    Trophy Points:
    931
  29. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

    Reputations:
    42,691
    Messages:
    29,835
    Likes Received:
    59,599
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Nice try forcing bloatware on the users :D
     
    Vasudev likes this.
  30. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

    Reputations:
    39,567
    Messages:
    23,559
    Likes Received:
    36,826
    Trophy Points:
    931
    The portable is link is now live. I just downloaded it and my CCleaner become even more powerful :rolleyes:
     
    Vasudev and Papusan like this.
  31. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

    Reputations:
    42,691
    Messages:
    29,835
    Likes Received:
    59,599
    Trophy Points:
    931
    First now? Where have you been?
    Btw. Amazing we could get it so fast. Only a few hours after the Bloatware :D
     
    Vasudev likes this.
  32. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    12,035
    Messages:
    11,277
    Likes Received:
    8,814
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Did they finaaly integrate Winapp2.ini file and Trimming unnecessary winapp2 entries? Its a much needed feature.
     
  33. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

    Reputations:
    39,567
    Messages:
    23,559
    Likes Received:
    36,826
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Norton Remove & Reinstall Tool updated to v4.4.0.71

    nVIDIA GeForce Experience updated to v3.12.0.84
     
    Vasudev likes this.
  34. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    8,396
    Messages:
    5,992
    Likes Received:
    8,633
    Trophy Points:
    681
    Vasudev likes this.
  35. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

    Reputations:
    39,567
    Messages:
    23,559
    Likes Received:
    36,826
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Ran it for about 30 seconds and the temps reached 100C so I shut it down. Not gonna do such torture to my taptop.

    this was on 42x multipliers with a -50mV offset for the undervolt and fans at full blast.

    My taptop didn't reboot but I didn't wanna run it further. :eek: :rolleyes:

    [​IMG]
     
    Mr. Fox, Vasudev and Falkentyne like this.
  36. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    8,396
    Messages:
    5,992
    Likes Received:
    8,633
    Trophy Points:
    681
    Thanks Phoenix.
    I didn't reach 100C but I was at 4.5 ghz and I think it reached 85C after 45 seconds, showing 104W and boom:it shut off and rebooted.
    I think it's an absolute max current limit (not the one in the bios, but programmed in the EC for safety). 4.2 ghz is probably not enough to trigger it. But yeah avoid this program, guys

    Thank you very much Phoenix!

    Ok I got brave and decided to run it at 4.2 ghz instead of 4.5 ghz.

    taptop did NOT shut down, but power draw 106W and 7C core temp differences. Scary. I shut it down after 3 minutes.
    Seems like the shutdown at 4.5 ghz is overcurrent protection.

    I'll upload a screenshot in a bit. I'm in a ranked game on my desktop

    I can't rep you again because I repped you today already!
    but here.
    linx.jpg
     
    Vasudev likes this.
  37. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

    Reputations:
    42,691
    Messages:
    29,835
    Likes Received:
    59,599
    Trophy Points:
    931
    I know [​IMG] But all know about LinX stress tests. Started with LinX 0.6.5. Please, let the other try to Fry their own laptop hardware. You haven't even a desktop setup with proper Phase cooling/water cooled setup. I don't get it, bruh o_O


    Etit. Back on topic... Samsung have a open windows now for downloading latest Samsung Magician v5.2 Bloatware:eek:
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2018
    Spartan@HIDevolution and Vasudev like this.
  38. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

    Reputations:
    37,213
    Messages:
    39,333
    Likes Received:
    70,624
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Maybe just use a hammer and smash the laptop into small pieces and be done with it. Fried silicon doesn't work any better than it does if it has been senselessly destroyed in another way. Probably won't hurt the CPU, but there are other components that might not handle the stress gracefully. No point in generating extreme levels of power draw and heat that will far and away surpasses anything that could ever happen with the most severe duty benching. After smashing it with a hammer, we can move to the driveway, fire up the car and stress test the engine by throwing a cinder block on the accelerator pedal to see if any connecting rods come loose from the crankshaft after the engine red-lines and stays there for a bit. Should be fun.
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2018
    Raiderman, KY_BULLET, Vasudev and 3 others like this.
  39. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

    Reputations:
    42,691
    Messages:
    29,835
    Likes Received:
    59,599
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Exactly :D
     
    Raiderman, Vasudev and Mr. Fox like this.
  40. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    12,035
    Messages:
    11,277
    Likes Received:
    8,814
    Trophy Points:
    931
  41. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

    Reputations:
    39,567
    Messages:
    23,559
    Likes Received:
    36,826
    Trophy Points:
    931
  42. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

    Reputations:
    42,691
    Messages:
    29,835
    Likes Received:
    59,599
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Mr. Fox and Vasudev like this.
  43. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

    Reputations:
    39,567
    Messages:
    23,559
    Likes Received:
    36,826
    Trophy Points:
    931
    This OS should be renamed to Winblows 10 EB (Eternal Beta) :rolleyes:

    The most stable build of Windows 10 believe it or not was the first public release build 10240. I had 0 issues with it, the telemetry and crapware were nothing compared to the mess it has become now. :eek: :rolleyes:
     
    Vasudev and Papusan like this.
  44. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

    Reputations:
    42,691
    Messages:
    29,835
    Likes Received:
    59,599
    Trophy Points:
    931
    It has been so many builds the last years, that I can't even remember what version who killed the screens in last *Normal* laptops from Dellienware :eek: + some Clevo's o_O
     
    Vasudev likes this.
  45. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    12,035
    Messages:
    11,277
    Likes Received:
    8,814
    Trophy Points:
    931
    slimmolG likes this.
  46. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

    Reputations:
    37,213
    Messages:
    39,333
    Likes Received:
    70,624
    Trophy Points:
    931
    The big question now is, why should anyone even think about bothering to try to make it work? Doing so is a colossal waste of time and effort. Skunks don't change their stripes, and I think we are at the point that it should be crystal clear to anyone paying attention that Windows 10 will likely never, ever, be worth a damn. It was designed on-purpose to be a piece of garbage because the people designing it are blithering imbeciles. Just installing an older OS and locking it down to block their access so they can't screw everything up later makes a lot more sense. Only the Kool-Aid drinking UWP crap-App filth lovers would be affected, since the Redmond Nazis make constant updating a requirement for their worthless Store trash.
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2018
    Spartan@HIDevolution and Vasudev like this.
  47. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    12,035
    Messages:
    11,277
    Likes Received:
    8,814
    Trophy Points:
    931
    That's no longer needed because UWP apps are updated to reflect changes from newer FCU to CU, AU and early OS versions if they're aren't in EOL list.
    Newer RS4 has UI tweaks to enable full fluent design which is becoming more like Aero Lite from Winaero. Added features would be Timeline(Confirmed), Sets(TBA), Improved Game mode(Which I removed accidentally) and Win defender improvements.
     
  48. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

    Reputations:
    42,691
    Messages:
    29,835
    Likes Received:
    59,599
    Trophy Points:
    931
    And this *feature* will fix everything? :rolleyes: As Fox said... Skunks don't change their stripes!!

    On topic.
    @Phoenix Could you add InSpectre tool in OP? This tool is now up in Release #4 o_O
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2018
    Mr. Fox and Vasudev like this.
  49. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

    Reputations:
    12,035
    Messages:
    11,277
    Likes Received:
    8,814
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Its still in beta so I see different layers of transparency in insider release. Maybe they won't even make it in public release.
     
  50. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

    Reputations:
    42,691
    Messages:
    29,835
    Likes Received:
    59,599
    Trophy Points:
    931
    It's still in beta? You are kidding with me? :rolleyes:
     
    Vasudev likes this.
← Previous pageNext page →