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    Playing AVCHD on Nvidia 8600 without stutter

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by PJ@y-Z, Jun 4, 2011.

  1. PJ@y-Z

    PJ@y-Z Notebook Evangelist

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    I can't play my camcorder (Canon HF R100) or bluray AVCHD video files smoothly.
    I tried most of the programs/codecs in Windows 7 x64/XP SP3 with the latest driver :(
    The only way I found is to reinstall the graphic driver without reboot then it plays great until I don't reboot or run any program that uses GPU.
    I can play with my CPU (T7500) and Splash Pro without quality loss but it uses all of my CPU.
    My graphic card is 8600M GT 256MB DDR2. Here's the information of the camcorder and bluray video files:

    After reinstalling graphic driver (smooth):

    [​IMG]

    Anytime else (not smooth):

    [​IMG]
     
    PJ@y-Z, Jun 4, 2011
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  2. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    just a guess but could well be your graphics card causing the problems. 8800gtx/9800gt and above might be what you need.
     
    MrDJ, Jun 5, 2011
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    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    What media player are you using? Because it looks like your players seem to somehow "forget" that they're set to use DXVA.

    Have you tried Media Player Classic - Home Cinema?
     
    Pitabred, Jun 6, 2011
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  4. PJ@y-Z

    PJ@y-Z Notebook Evangelist

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    @MrDJ: Solution?? :)

    @Pitabred: Splash Pro. Look at the cpu usage ;)
    Yes, I said.
     
    PJ@y-Z, Jun 6, 2011
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    VLC Player doesn't do .m2ts files correctly. If that's what you're using, try something else like Windows Media Classic. VLC is fine for everything else.
     
    sugarkang, Jun 6, 2011
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    Is there a setting in Splash Pro that will let you configure whether it uses GPU acceleration or not?

    If you run another application that uses the GPU, can you run those multiple times without things slowing down?

    I'm just going through some troubleshooting steps here, and it seems like the issue is Splash Pro. When you said you have tried most of the programs in Windows 7, there's only one program, Windows Media Player or whatever else your machine shipped with. That is why I asked about MPC-HC, a good program that should remember to be DXVA accelerated if the drivers support it.
     
    Pitabred, Jun 6, 2011
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  7. PJ@y-Z

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    VLC doesn't support DxVA.


    Yes.

    No, I can't play well anymore.

    I tried them but got the same result :rolleyes:
     
    PJ@y-Z, Jun 7, 2011
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  8. trvelbug

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    Have you tried using your gpu for other graphic intensive tasks like games etc?
    The reason i ask is because that particular line of gpu has had solder problems; i believe there was a class action suite vs nvidia that the comaony lost.
    Going back ot, my first step would be to determine that it isnt a gpu issue first.

    Edit:
    I owned an 8600 gs that failed, and the first sign of issues was driver failure.
     
    trvelbug, Jun 8, 2011
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  9. H.A.L. 9000

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    H.A.L. 9000, Jun 8, 2011
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  10. PJ@y-Z

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    I have problem only with AVCHD 1920x1080i High profile. AVCHD 1920x1080p24 High profile plays well.
    AVCHD 1920x1080i Main profile and AVCHD 1440x1080i High profile play fine too :rolleyes:

    Yes. I'd no problem.

    I tried but got even worse result.
     
    PJ@y-Z, Jun 9, 2011
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  11. namaiki

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    Possibly a limitation of the inbuilt VP2 decoder chip on the card. You could try use DXVAchecker and do some benchmarks.

    Also, try check GPU-z video decode and memory usage on your card (sensors page).
     
    namaiki, Jun 9, 2011
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  12. PJ@y-Z

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    PJ@y-Z, Jul 1, 2011
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    Unfortunately, I don't think your laptop has a MiniPCIe slot to accept that card.
     
    Pitabred, Jul 1, 2011
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  14. PJ@y-Z

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    But it has :confused:
     
    PJ@y-Z, Jul 2, 2011
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    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    I've got one of those CrystalHD cards. It works fine, but it seems to downscale all my 1080p stuff to 720p for some reason.

    Correction: Seems to downscale to 1280px width.
     
    namaiki, Jul 2, 2011
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  16. PJ@y-Z

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    Would you explain more?
    Can you take some screenshot from its control panel?
     
    PJ@y-Z, Jul 2, 2011
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  17. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    edit: holy carp. you're the guy with that thread on doom9...

    Here are the settings options that I could find:
    http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2791/dsfdslf.jpg
    http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2184/dflkjsdhjfhdsjf.jpg
    http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/3199/sdfhdsj.jpg

    I could not get the decoder to output anything besides YUY2. (YV12 /NV12 is preferable)

    MediaInfo for the file that I was playing at the time is also attached to this post.

    Also, I haven't tried getting a replacement chip. So, it's possible that I've got a dud.
     

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    namaiki, Jul 2, 2011
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  18. PJ@y-Z

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    Yup :D

    Have you tried Splash?
     
    PJ@y-Z, Jul 3, 2011
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  19. olyteddy

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    Yes. Very quick to load, low CPU usage, great for MKV but no DVD or BluRay support yet.
     
    olyteddy, Jul 3, 2011
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  20. PJ@y-Z

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    No, I was talking about Broadcom Crystal HD's video quality with Spalsh.
    I'm not sure about its de-interlacing quality :(
     
    PJ@y-Z, Jul 30, 2011
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