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    Quick Way to override lid close action?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Texanman, Mar 7, 2011.

  1. Texanman

    Texanman Master of all things Cake

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    On my netbook I will occinaly have music playing with headphones. I know you can set the power plan with a lid close action. I made my own plan for school and its set to hibernate when lid is closed on battery... but sometimes i move around and it's a slight hassle to change to a different plan and then switch it back when im done moving... is there a shortcut you can set up to change the lid action so when i am done moving I could select it to change the lid action back??
     
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    Which OS & make/model of netbook?
     
  3. Zeptinune

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    No there isn't a 'shortcut' to doing this.. I needed the same thing because I leave my computer on when I go out and I want the screen to turn off after 60 seconds. The other half the time I need to use it so I want it to stay on.

    I just made a .bat (batch file) that I just run from Rainmeter when I need to change the screen turn off time. You could do the same thing with 2 variables for the Lid Close action.

    Oh and also, hibernate sucks. I'd disable it, but that's just a personal preference.
     
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    What are you on about? Hibernate is the way forward,surely you don't cold boot every time?!
     
  5. Texanman

    Texanman Master of all things Cake

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    well with my ssd it machine does boot fast enough to hibernating is not a issue but I do use it time to time to save my work...anyways ill see about making a batch file for a different power profile to change the lid
     
  6. davepermen

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    i have lid close set to nothing, and the power button is outside of the laptop. so i can just switch it on and off with the powerbutton (hibernate), and let it run when closed.

    depends on the laptop, of course.
     
  7. newsposter

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    davePs method is probably the best, depending on how often you want/need to use your laptop as a (expensive) media player. I have the power button on my laptop set for hibernate/sleep. If I want to power the thing off cold I do so deliberately.

    Remember though, that many laptops are built so that cooling depends at least partially on the keyboard being open to outside air. Deliberately keeping your laptop powered up but closed up might introduce overheating issues which in turn could lead to hardware failures.

    Be careful out there.
     
  8. davepermen

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    mine doesn't as it's a convertible tablet. it's ment to be used closed (but screen rotated of course). nice media player then btw :)
     
  9. Texanman

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    Its my netbook..... this is all because When i move around campus I just want to be able to listen to pandora/mp3's
     
  10. davepermen

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    doesn't look like your power button is accessible when the lid is closed. well, you could still use it that way. to turn off, you would have to open it, press the power, and close it again.

    so instead of "i now want to leave it powered on" you switch to a "i now want to turn it off" behaviour. leave it on by default.
     
  11. Zeptinune

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    I really don't care about boot times, what I do care about is overheating and keeping components powered unnecessarily. So it'll be a cold boot for me forever unless some genius or trusted person like Stephen Hawking can prove to me that hibernation is a safe as cold booting. Other than that I have it turned off on all my machines.
     
  12. davepermen

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    hibernation is cold booting from a hardware standpoint. it's just different from an os standpoint. after hibernating, you can take out your battery, your hdd, everything, plug it in again, turn on, and continue the work.
     
  13. Zeptinune

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    Depending on the cost of disk space amongst other things, really I see no reason to use it. I've already given it a try.
     
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    i close my laptop. i open it days later and continue where i left in seconds. that's what it is for. never having to "end a session, close and save everything, start again, open up again, load all your stuff you need". just continue where left. my work laptop does get a restart about once a week/month, rest it's on standby/hibernation and walks with me where ever it needs to. throw into a dockingstation near me, and continue work in about two seconds.

    pc at home is on standby all the time. laptop on hibernation mostly (as i use it very infrequently)
     
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    When I need to reboot I use Hibernation because it's quicker to shutdown. Saving the RAM as a single file is lots quicker than saving all the settings. Then just hit 'F8' during reboot and voila, reboot accomplished.
     
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    I don't know if this helps you in any way but some laptops have a small magnet inside the laptop lid installed somewhere around the perimeter of the screen. That's the lid switch. If I place a small magnet next to the Caps Lock key while the lid is open, the screen turns off.
     
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    this.

    hibernation is not sleep

    as for OP I'd just rather set close lid to Nothing, and set power button to hibernate .
    as for LCD try the program Turn Off LCD so you can turn it off while lid closed.
     
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    On the other paw, on my i3 laptop, a cold boot to login screen takes approx 15 seconds.
     
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    which means hibernate will be much faster, no ?
    and OP mentioned netbook... so.. yeah can't compare them :p
     
  20. davepermen

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    hibernation max time = amount of ram / write speed to hdd/ssd. reload max time = amount of ram / read speed from hdd/ssd.

    in my case: 2.5GB / 70MB/s = 35 sec hibernation, 2.5GB / 250MB/s = 10 sec back online.

    and that's back online including all apps that i left open ready to continue work. so count in the additional seconds you need to open your apps of choice and all.
     
  21. Zeptinune

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    I understood the difference before that, but that complicates things. So you're saying it's faster because it reads from RAM instead of the HDD? Well either way I just read the wikipedia topic on it.

    Why doesn't it completely replace 'cold booting' then? What's a hybrid sleep compared to hibernating and cold booting?

    Without getting really off-topic what about devices that were plugged in when the computer hibernated that you unplug after you hibernate the computer due to wanting to move it etc. Are all devices 'hibernate compliant' ?
     
  22. davepermen

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    cold booting is for reinitializing the whole system, starting the os from fresh, the drivers, the applications, the files, etc.. i mostly do that just when i get new windows updates, a.k.a. i REBOOT.

    i never shutdown / startup. i do reboots when needed (installation of stuff, or some ed up driver), else i only hibernate/sleep.

    and no, hibernation is writing ram to disk, then turn off, then turn on, then loading disk to ram.

    hybrid sleep is a combination of sleep and hibernation: it sleeps AND writes the whole ram to disk. after a while, it turns off. so if you close your laptop and need it in say a minute, then you open it up and it's just back there in a second or two. but if you leave it overnight, it'll hibernate after a while to save battery.

    advantage: as fast as sleep, as save as hibernation (means it doesn't matter if you have a power outage/battery down while sleeping).


    devices don't need to be hibernation compliant, they just have to be compliant to "getting plugged out, and getting plugged in again". if that works for a device, hibernation works.
     
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    Thanks as always for separating the meat from the bone dave :) I am once again enlightened.
     
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    that's what i try to do in here. greetings to finland, was nice when i was there.
     
  25. shriek11

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    I have seen that hibernating actually makes the programs run worser, as I think cache probably gets filled up. Cold boot starts from scratch and 99% of the time, this is what I use.