Raise your hand if your getting really sick and tired of Windows Vista!

/me raises his hand

I hate it. Seriously, I am getting so aggravated. I feel like getting my laptop and throwing it out the window..honestly.

Since 7 am this morning, my taskbar has crashed

13 times.

Go me. I am getting really sick and tired of this. It worked temporary when I ran Windows in a separate folder, now it doesn't.

In some ways..I wish I had bought the laptop from Mac. Bill Gates and his people over at Microsoft better start to fix this otherwise they loose a Microsoft customer. I paid for this laptop by saving up for 3 years. I figured I would get a little bit of joy out of it ?

 

Raise my hand on Vista... Windows 7 should be a major improvement though, so be on the look out for the release date...

 

I'm kinda tired of it too. I just wish we had an even playing field where all of the OS vendors were on the same boat. Then competition happens. Then prices go down.

THEN THIS KIND OF STUFF DOESN'T HAPPEN.

am I right or am I right? Who's with me?

 

down with your hands. it works flawless and great on several systems of me, and others around me.

get your bugs fixed instead of "ohno it's vista". win7 is just vista with some enhancements. if you don't get vista working right, win7 by a big chance won't work right on your system eighter.

but back to your real problem:

is it a clean install or the default of your notebook? how about doing a clean install? it should always help. and do you have all the updates? servicepack1, updates, driver updates? it looks like you have something really actively crashing your taskbar. mine haven't crashed since over a year on all my systems. so something's terribly wrong on yours.

what's your specs?

 

I have been using Ultimate x64 for a while now and its great. No problems here.

 

I've grown accustomed to it...I'm pretty ambivalent about it at this point. It originally sucked when it was brand new (I bought my first Vista laptop in 5/07, a few months after its introduction). But I also was using a laptop with a 1.66GHz CPU and 1GB of RAM! Vista works fine for me as long as I have enough muscle (processor, RAM, graphics card) to bend it to my will!

 

I'm not, I switched my machine to XP right after I got it. I've tried Vista repeatedly, and it just isn't good for me. I even tried Windows 7 on my X205, and while it's "pretty", XP is simply faster, more compatible, and I know where everything is.

 

Ultimate 64 bit here, no problems either, runs great. I find XP more annoying to tell you the truth, just turn off UAC and then no annoying warnings, etc.

 

When someone refers to the update process, I'm sure they mean to include Service Packs, and even the newest .Net Framework, which should be 3.5. Also of interest is Microsoft Visual C++ 2005, and the newest Windows installer. I'm not sure why Windows update does not include these by default, but they work wonders for random unexplained crashes. I hope yet again, that this advice offers you some releif from what has quickly become Bill Gate's little mulligan.

 

I just did restarted my computer and hasn't crashed for the past half hour. Might be the fact that I hadn't restarted my computer in a few weeks. Or, it might be the fact that I somehow had 91 processes going on ? Is this normal ? I got my computer at Christmas time. I right now have 80 Processes going..However, I do have my MSN going, my steam, my ati catalyst, weather eye, etc. Some extra addons I guess boosts it up a bit. Everything seems to be fine now though..It's not that I hate Vista, I love it personally, It just gets a little annoying from time to time. Here are my specs; http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/prodd...AF913900&sku_id=0926INGFS10111648&catid=25253

 

I use Windows Vista x64 64-Bit, no problem over here...
I realy don't understand why pepole don't like vista, I have XP on destkop and Vista on my leptop...
My PC have never crashed, after a clean install of vista...
Maybe "user" is the problem ?

 

Tunay, while I am glad that you have no issues with your build, far too many do, for it to be a user issue. Sure updating does help alot, and tweaking is a must, but these are not default options available to the everyday user, as Microsoft makes you jump through hoops to find and install certain packages(ie .Net Framework 3.5, Microsoft Visual Studio C++, Direct X End-user Runtime updates, etc) that should be readily available from the get go without having to search and individually download and install them. So I have to disagree with the statement that it's a user related issue, as there are multiple standing lawsuits against Microsoft for these so called issues, from more than one country, and more than a few thousand users.

 

I am running vista 64 on my new system. while i will admit i havent had any problems with vista all the systems ive had with vista now and in the past show excessive hard drive access. even on a fresh out of the box brand new install. You can just sit there and watch the HD activity light click and grind on and off all day even when idle doing nothing at all.

Windows 7 doesnt do this at all, so I see it as an improvment. However i am experiences some problems with the new internet exploror 8 beta it comes with to stop responding and crashing. the operating system itself isnt bad for a beta.

 

It's usually the user that crashes the system and not Vista. I too am using Vista and hasn't crashed on me yet. I use both 32 and 64 versions. I do use XP on my older laptop. Hard disk activity on new systems are normal and expected.

 

I use vista and it's okay.

 

I decided to give Vista a shot for the first time. Installed it into my linux-dominated machine. After a couple days spent learning its guts, tweaking, and setting it up, I have to admit that it's a good system. It's functioning nicely as a light, easy-to-use game box, and I'm sure I can keep it that way if I keep a tight leash. System security still has me on edge, as with any Windows system. I dip into linux for more arcane or risky activities, so it's not such a concern.

Maybe after a long time maintaining it, I'll find something to complain about, but so far there's been nothing.

 

Fail thread is fail. Vista works fine, given you have reliable hardware and know what you're up to.

 

When the "user", crashes vista, it's because they were not informed of proper protocol or procedure, (That Microsoft does not make readily available)which is indeed the developer's fault. Why arent the packages I mentioned included by default, as they obviously improve stability.I have used quite the plethora of OSs, OS/2, Linux, Unix, OSX, Windows 3.1, 95, 98 SE, Millenium Edition(ME), XP, Media Center Edition, Vista 32-64bit, and even Yellowdog Linux on PS3, so with my experience, I can honestly say, that Vista has so far been the worst when it comes to stability, with the exception of Windows 95 and the old ping command bug, and the worst when it comes to optional functions being forced on the average consumer that arent needed and require tweaking to turn off. Is anyone in here familiar with the vista capable class action suit? Not so much about hardware as it is about the OS developer being honest in practice, and taking responsibility for a release now, patch later product.

 

While I understand some people have issues because of software bloat or hardware, I'm raising my hand because I'm sick of everyone trashing Vista. Those Mac commercials that propagate this make me sick!

Vista has been solid for me on three different notebooks (Acer, HP, and my current Dell).

 

Vista Business 64 for me: gotta say, I love it. Sorry.

 

I am not a single OS fanboy, as there are many that have something equally important to offer, but by not being a fanboy, I call it how I see it. I agree that the low-balling Mac commercials are annoying, and unethical in propagating the Vista hate. I just see vista working better for more experienced users, versus the casual demographic that MS aimed it at initially. Hopefully Windows 7 will alleviate some of these woes.

 

I have been using Vista since release without a SINGLE issue.

So it's not Vista that's the problem, it's either something you did, a virus, drivers, or a misbehaving program.

 

I concur w/ Captain Fail. Vista has had less issues than XP for me.

 

I use both Vista and XP..I like them both equally the same

Cin

 

Are you sure its Vista or some lame program poorly written causing system instability and crashing your taskbar... did it run fine before?

Using it without problem on this end and happy, always looking for the next best thing... W7...maybe.

 

Vista worked great for me for about 1.5 years. Now I get BSODs once in a while. Will move to 64-bit with a fresh install, I hope that will get me back on track.

 

It's sad that there are hundreds of thousands of educated consumers that disagree with you Captain Fail and thats no account for the other thousands that arent as tech savvy as they would like to be. I will say that there are a host of good features in Vista, and that through many updates and a service pack, performance has almost been brought on par with XP, and exceeds XP in certain specialized functions. However, blaming the user and only the user, is the same as saying that Vista is perfect, which everyone knows that it is NOT perfect. I am very glad that there are those that dont have any issues with Vista, I also know that some of those people just choose to jump on the boat and overlook certain shortfalls for the sake of being right or making a point. If your opinion is so easily bought, and equally as valuable, then so be it. I have seen and done alot, software-wise through many different Operating Systems, through many years, and my critique is with purpose, and very well founded. We are all entitled to our opinion, but to insinuate that Vista is perfect, and that the only flaw with it is the user, is fundamentally wrong, as the OS was created by imperfect programmers.

 

They must have some Ancient systems running vista with 512MB ram and Pll cpus or older .Tey complain because they use a new os on outdated harddware.

 

As many times as I've gone back to Vista, especially since I blew $100 on an OEM version when I built my desktop a couple years back, I just can't stay there.

I have to say, however, that Windows 7 is looking quite nice ATM. If they work hard and optimizing this, then I'll be sold when it's available come day 1.

In the meantime, it's XP all the way.

 

I like both vista and xp.

 

Hey HTwingnut, just out of curiosity, have you benchmarked that Asus N10J? I'd like to know how the 9300m performs.

 

You people and Xp,why do you like it somuch its 4 years old and only works so fast b/c your using some slow hardware.Vista runs fast on alot of pcs and isnt a memory hogger.

 

I didn't want to use Vista, especially after hearing all the bad rep. So when I got my new laptop over the summer, I prepared all the drivers I needed for XP. However, after using it for just a few days, I was hooked. The OS is not as bad as people claim to be and I like it. Safe to say, I left Vista on the laptop and have been using it ever since. Plus, I like the eye-candy.

 

Vista just needs abit of tweaking.

Still have to go with XP for practicality though.

 

Eye-candy Vista has alot of, and does very well. I like Vista as well, as it serves my purposes, and isnt hard on the lookers.

 

I've had way less problems with Vista than with XP. I used Vista 64-bit for a while, but switched back to 32-bit because I don't need 64-bit on my laptop ATM. I've had virtually no problems with either version. I don't plan on ever going back to XP.

 

Always glad to hear that kind of news. Congratulations.....

 

With the exceptions of a few minor hiccups, though extremely annoying, my Vista experience has been pretty decent. Do I like it? Not particularly, but hey it gets the job done.

 

Hey, ok first of all, please stop telling me that this is a pointless thread. Personally, it's my own opinion. No operating system is going to EVER have no problems with it. I went over to futureshop tonight for a second, and as I was looking at some other laptops, a worker there asked me if I had a Toshiba..He asked me how I liked Vista and I told him my situation..he said that many people have this problem and it is mainly caused by 32 bit edition. I was also told this by my computer technician. Personally, don't get me wrong, I love Vista. I have loved it since the day I got it. I find it more secure than XP. It might be since I have been a XP user since it first came out. After the restart, I haven't had a problem with it crashing yet. My computer technician said that restarting the computer sometimes helps this stop. He isin't a Vista user but he has fixed machines with Vista on it. I am almost 100% that it isin't a Virus or anything else. I have Norton 360 running on the latest updates and I do a quick scan everyday with Norton, Ad-Aware, and Windows Defender and I keep all of those up to date each day. Please, I do not want anyone to hate me since I started this thread. All I did was complain about something. I am not quite concerned for it as it is a school laptop. Sorry. I hope I didn't get a back reputation on me. If I did offend you of something silly such as me complaining about a part of Vista, sorry, but there is more important things in life than an operation system for a computer. Sorry if I come on as harsh, not trying to, but I'm just stating my own opinion.

Tomorrow when I go to school just to make sure I'll run a Full scan of Ad-Aware, Norton and Windows Defender. Sorry for making such a stupid topic that would wound people up.

 

Well, we 'XP' people like it because it is, and always will be, leaner than Vista. Out of the box - leaner. Tweak Vista? Yes, and I can tweak XP even more. XP is also more controllable. Tons of freebie apps don't work on Vista because it won't let you. No 'treacherous computing' DRM infestation in XP - AnyDVD and Nero will give you 1080p. No backward compatibility or driver issues in XP (no matter whose fault - I just don't need the aggravation).

And what does Vista offer? Eye candy. Yippee. So all the Vista fans are tolerating this disasterous, bloated, OS because ... they like the cool aero. Quite sad. And then they just love to call themselves 'cutting edge' by looking down on the XP 'fuddy-duddies'

 

Check it out here:
http://www.n10user.com/post3075.html#p3075

 

Vista FTW!

 

All these issues of yours can also be easily happening with XP. How about expanding your issues, and see if we can all chip in for some resolutions?

cheers ...

 

Yeah. Taskbar crashing isn't normal on either XP or Vista. I've been running Vista for over a year and I've never seen that happen even once.

I suggest trying a reinstall, if possible.

What do you mean by that?

 

Windows 98 is leaner than XP. You should be using that.

 

You are clearly well-informed, knowledgeable and objective. Not opinionated at all. Well done sir.

 

I've been using Vista for a month now (used XP for years) and don't think it's bad at all.

 

Hey HTwingnut, thanks for the link. Very impressive, especially for an extra portable netbook. Color me impressed....

Now to the issue at hand. Ryan, I feel your pain bro, and I use Vista X64, I used to have so many crashes and lockups, until I tuned it, and downloaded the optional packages I stated earlier in the thread. With all the work I've put into it, it still is not flawless. For all the people not having problems with vista, let me ask if I may, what exactly do you use it for? I use it for research, 3D modeling, image editing, video encoding/editing, and especially gaming. I push an OS as far as I can, and thats why I say what I have about Vista's instability. I have always ran at least a suite of programs to test the functionality and limits of an OS. I say in closing, congratulations to those that have no problems with Vista, I am happy for you, but to those that honestly do have problems, I feel you, as I've been on both sides of the spectrum, and I hope that Windows 7 does more to fix these problems, that we the users keep getting blamed for. You can give a turd a paint job, and respect, but it will always be a turd none the less. Some may join in your quest trying to build up and modify turds, but in the end and in all honesty all your left with is a turd...

 

add directx 9 redistributable to that list, and we're good to go...

Vista works very well on my computer. It didn't when I first bought it though, heaps of random crashes and instability. But now, a year and a half later, and numerous MS patches and vendor driver updates, the system seems almost rock stable. I've had a couple of unexplained crashes in IE, and that's about it...

 

I second that motion temagic. Good call.