Ready Boost & Eboostr

I'm trying to reduce my hard drive temperature by using either Ready Boost or Eboostr. Which one's better? Also what kind of memory card would be best? (Memory Stick, SD,...)

 

Why not use both at the same time? For both of them, the faster the better.

 

Never heard of Ready Boost can lower hard drive temp. Maybe I am missing something

cheers ...

 

jack, could you elaborate on how using both would work?

...i figured using readyboost/eboostr would decrease hard drive usage, thus lowering its temperature.
any advice on the kind of memory card?

 

Neither are going to make a significant difference in regards to HDD temperature. Increase your RAM to your system's maximum, and after that, invest in a cooling pad.

 

i'll at least give it a try. i think you can get like 16~32gb memory cards, thats way more than vista needs, isn't it?

 

You're not going to have 16-32 GB of applications/services to cache. Furthermore, if some application/service is actually that large, Readyboost will actually slow down your system since flash memory is slower when it comes to sequential reads/writes.

 

Your HDD won't reduce temperature no mater what you do with your "solutions". Ready boost is designed for those who can't upgrade their RAM (discontinued RAM, don't know how, can't afford).
ReadyBoost uses your USB memory stick as a page file extender to the HDD. It's being used for fast access time, read/write will either be HDD or USB memory stick depending is your USB stick is faster or not than your HDD, and if it has the capacity to hold the memory data that needs to be accessed.

Something else to be noted, is that unlike XP, Vista/Win7 memory management is actually very good. XP acts like if you are low in memory no mater how much RAM you have. It put everything it can on the HDD, instead of the RAM. Why? Because XP was designed for 128-256-512 MB of RAM, and not GB's of RAM. Vista/Win7 memory management uses the RAM first. when the RAM is full/near full THEN it will start actually using the page file.

 

i have 4gb ram what kind of memory card should i get?

i was looking a sandisk extreme iii

 

You're pretty good at ignoring advice.

You need to get the fastest memory card you can afford. At least you'll experience some placebo effect for your money.

 

I would say that in your case, using a memory card for ReadyBoost would pretty much be a waste of money. 4GB of RAM is plenty for even Vista. It won't really help lower HDD access, and besides, while the HDD is on, it will be roughly the same temperature whether or not it is stressed. The temperature difference is not as big as in a CPU stressed versus idle.

If you really want performance gain, save up and get yourself a nice SSD.

 

Hey! thanks for reading our advice! Next time you need help, we will remember how good your reading skill is

 

have you heard of "trust but verify"? thanks for the advice, i've read everything but i still wanna try to see how it works
so, i understand that vista sometimes turns off the hdd, i'm hoping if some of the resources get copied to flash the hdd could be turned off more.
does anyone know what's the fastest memory you can put in a 7 in 1 card reader?

 

Hard drives only shut off on standby and shut down.

 

What you think is plain wrong.

Your main HDD with Windows loaded on it will not turn off - and it shouldn't. HDDs are slow enough as they are, having your primary HDD turn off and on would kill system performance, you might as well throw away your laptop and use an abacus.

Furthermore, Readyboost is a cache, it does not replace your HDD, instead, it works in tandem with it. With 4 GB of memory, there is absolutely no advantage of using Readyboost.

Finally, as other users have stated, HDD temps barely fluctuate between idle and active. Most of the heat from your computer is from the processor and video card. If you are experiencing overheating, buy a laptop fan.

This is all I can say in the matter. If you're not going to listen to the advice given, then buy the fastest card you can afford. The $100 you spend on can act as a lesson learned.

 

HDD can be turn off, but that is exclusive to laptops HDD's. When you set it means "I am ready to lose performance for gaining some battery life". Laptop HDD, even for the same RPM's, are slower than desktops HDD's and more expensive.

HDD temperature varies in HDD brands and models.
The best you do for a desktop HDD is get one of those "green" HDD's, where have some similarities as the laptop HDD features but applied in a desktop HDD. The idea of them is to use less power, noit less heat. You also lose performance with them over the normal version.

 

To add to that, that's only for when you're not using your computer. Not in the middle of using it. It's analogous to hibernate, but with less time needed to wake up.

 

You can set aside for example 2GB of flash memory for readyboost and 2GB for eboostr. Then you can use both at once.

By using readyboost and eboostr3 on a SD card on my netbook, not only does the HDD spin down more often thus reducing hdd heat, but it greatly increases the responsiveness of the OS as well as extending my battery life by 15minutes-half an hour.

I use readyboost on my quadcore computer with 4GB of ram, but the performance difference isn't as obvious as on my netbook, but it is still noticible.

 

in the power settings there is an option to turn off hard disks after as little as 1 minute of inactivity, doesn't that mean that the hdd can be off while the computer is working, especially with e/ready-boost?
also, would any memory card that works with card reader do the trick?

 

You need to check the motherboard before buying the memory card.
Make sure the motherboard match with the memory card you buy.
DDR version and Mhz(latency) version if not mistaken.

If you buy a most high speed memory card, but your motherboard doesn't support it, the most high speed memory card will downclock itself to the speed state that suite your motherboard.
This will mean you're wasting your money to get the most high speed memory card for not using it speed fully.
I suppose you know this well, right?

 

No, the hard drive will coem back online the moment you start using the computer again.
I am sorry, but if you don't know the basic workings of your computer, you can't "verify".
The hard drive's temperature can be elevated by the other parts of the computer - depends on your laptop model.

If you want a cooler hard drive, get an SSD instead of your "solutions".

 

Um... no
My netbook sometimes doesn't turn on the hdd when I use my computer. Some of the frequently accessed files are cached in the SD card by eboostr thus the hdd is not accessed thus it's not turned on.

 

this is nearly impossible in the real world.
Even for a program like MSN, I mean the history of the conversation needs to be saved somewhere, Microsoft Office has it's backup document feature (let alone saving your document), Web browser has cache and history. Yea, I guess if you use Windows Calculator, that would be the exception.

 

I'm pretty sure you have a 32Bit OS which means readyboost won't work anyway.

Apart from that - do read what people write - it reduces the frustration of (especially long time) members.

 

Agreed. 32bit OS will only used max to 3GB-3.5GB of RAM.
My question is should I turn off the readyboost feature in the services.msc?
I am on 32bit OS currently, will move to 64bit OS randomly(when I feel I want experiment something).

 

No, because the service is linked to more than just "Readyboost".

Leave it as it is.

 

Well, what on the earth the ReadyBoost service do other than readyboost using flash memory?

 

Something called "Readyboot" was mentioned to be part of the Readyboost process.

 

You still think in XP days.
Disabling service won't give you any performance increase or visible faster startup. All you do is save a few KB of RAM.

 

LOL~ I thought it consume a lot of RAM(LOL I am noob).
Never mind, I need to have some startups(needless and useless) in order to keep my undervolt stable at its FID and VID all the time. I don't want it to shake like heartbeat.

 

Ignoring Lithus and the other sagacious advices here is a federal offense man. These persons learned their thing through vast experiences so i suggest you try listening to them.

Readyboost and Ebooster with hopes of reducing HDD temperatures is just plain stupid. lol

 

Well you are right... well used to...
Back in the day when we had 512MB and bellow, that was important. But, with our 24GB of today, not so much: (Dell Studio XPS 435)

 

i've read the whole thread, thanks for the advice, i still wanna try and see what happens
i got the sager np8662, where everything has excellent cooling besides the hdd and zalman nc2000 cooler
i also have 64 bit os

i've read somewhere that the flash should be double the ram, so should i get 8 gb?

 

What?

So you're saying that 32bit OS cannot use readyboost? Are you also implying page file wouldn't work as well?

Apart from that - do read what everyone writes

 

Well.. you can't always trust someone who hasn't used readyboost or eboostr extensively even though they're "long time" members. They aren't always right you know. I'm a "long time" member as well and i'm not always right.

What eboostr does is cache files on the hdd onto the sd card and redirect read instructions to the SD card. For example, Internet Explorer, whenever opening a new tab, it has to access data from the hdd for a split second. I cached those files in eboostr and IE8 now gets that data from the SD card thus the hdd doesn't spinup when I create a new tab. I have also cached the thumbnails of my picture folder. Now my pictures folder thumbnails load instantly and the hdd doesn't have to work nearly as hard to fetch those thumbnails. Overall, eboostr makes access small random files much faster.

Readyboost makes a big difference on computers with low amount of ram and makes a tiny bit of difference on computer with an abundance of ram.

 

jackluo923, you explain a lot and very detail.
I think I would use ReadyBoost in the future too. However, I am pure noob(again) on this readyboost thing. I screwed up my USB flash drive with it. LOL.
Lastly, +rep for informative post.

 

I wasn't referring to RAM, I was referring to flash memory.

Here: straight from Microsoft,

http://blogs.technet.com/askperf/archive/2007/03/29/windows-vista-superfetch-readyboost.aspx

 

I use an 8 gig SD card, works really well, I mainly see the difference in games. Haven't noticed a change in HDD temps though, but I wasn't looking.

 

To the page before - never disable ReadyBoost. ReadyBoot is tied into it and is an important part of the system. Actually, don't disable any services. Windows engineers weep when they see "tweakers" talk about it.

 

can anyone recommend a good guide on eboostr/readyboost?
also, is there any reason to use them if I do get an ssd?

 

If you get an SSD, ReadyBoos/Eboostr will be slower than your SSD, so it would in fact produce a performance degradation, not improvement. So no, there is no reason to use it.

 

Yup, if you have SSD, it either won't make a difference or slower your computer down.

Though, it really depends on what kind of SSD you're using. If it's those netbook SSD, using readyboost and eboostr will make a huge difference.

 

You're quoting out of context.

I quoted someone who said he has 4GB of RAM - Readyboost is to support RAM - so 4GB of RAM and Readyboost shouldn't work.

Also - wasn't there a comparison that showed that Readyboost only made sense with less than 2B of RAM?

 

readyboost is "virtual memory" thus if you have 100GB of ram installed, you can still use it just like you can use page files on computer with more than 4GB of ram.