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no!...No!...NO!...NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NOOOOOO!

THIS IS PATHETIC Utterly pathetic. This disgusts me. This is stupid, moronic, idiotic, and a pure boneheaed thing to do

This is way to early for WIN 8 I mean IMO windows vista is finally getting its way into everyones homes. But before it can settle and become an OS that we like, MS tosses out windows 7 which really is a cheap vista knockoff. And before windows 7 is even released, WINDOWS 8 is being cooked
Can't MS stick with making service packs instead of basically selling us the service packs and calling them a new OS?

Darn you MS, I'm getting tired of this

When is windows vista SP5 *cough*cough* I mean windows 9 going to be released?

 

Honestly, how can you be this ignorant?

Do you have any idea about project management? This is called planning for the future. They always have to keep thinking and developing beyond the current projects. In IT things move too fast and software development takes a LONG time and a lot of man hours. If they dont start early then it will take forever for a future release to come out and they will be behind the competition.

 

What? You think developers just freeze code and do not think or program with new ideas after a release ?
Yea, how DARE they even begin work on Windows 8.

 

What's the big deal? Win 7 is about to come out so it is already time to start on to the new project or even the project after that. You just can't stop developing. Microsoft is large enough to have teams working on the current project and future projects.

 

I'm not trying to echo what everyone else is saying, but what should Microsoft developers do, twiddle their thumbs? To remain being the leader in the market, Microsoft cannot pat itself on its back; Microsoft needs to keep innovating and developing.

 

sry guys I understand now. I was angry at first because I havent even used windows 7 yet and am just now getting used to vista.

 

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Heh...that's all I can say to that reaction. It's amazing sometimes on the internet.

 

'Let us call it Windows 8 for now.' lol made me chuckle 8 after 7 hmmm really.

When do you reckon Windows 8 will start to emerge?

 

The only problem is that people dont understand how windows is STUCK...

Windows is stuck with MILLIONS of possible hardware configurations, so they have to squeeze all this compatibility for computer illiterate people into a useable package (since thats the majority of users, not like most of us here)

So its kind of hard to say MICROSOFT SUCKS!!! Because MAC SUCKS!!! when it comes to possibilities, expandability, gaming etc...


Windows 8... 2012 is my bet... 2010-11 beta actually... I forsee MANY more beta testers and windows releasing betas way earlier


I love Mac and "PC" equally, you guys just expect too much from life

 

But... your avatar says you hate everything

 

At the very least, 2 years. I'm guessing 3.

It's odd, Vista still feels new to me even though its 3 years old.

 

Yeah, I'm bored with Win 7. Way too stable, never crashes, all my hardware works. I'm boooorrrrred...

 

There's always been a two to three year Windows release cycle, Vista was just an outlier

 

I think we will see early details around 2010. It will most likely look exactly like 7. It probably will release around 2012.

 

I still feel that way about Vista also!
You are not alone.~!


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I say something like 4 years this time around. Windows 7's kernel is based off of Vista's kernel, and me thinks Microsoft will changeup the kernel in W8.

I agree with that Vista still feels "new" even though I've been using it for 3 years now (since beta). SP2 makes it even better.

 

I bet Windows 8 is out in time for back to school 2013.

 

It's interesting as microsoft knows this. and because of it they add a lot of (optional, users have to opt in to do so) user-data-logging to find out what is actually needed in windows, and what not. so they can move on, to not be stuck.

but yes, most are nowadays quite stuck. microsoft is, apple is, even linux for most part.

then again, it's amazing to see how much microsoft changed under the hood, that didn't result in big problems (no matter how many try to hate and bash vista). and the result: much saver, much more stable than it was years ago (think, 10-15 years ). and still mostly compatible. so, while stuck from the outside, they refactured what they could on the inside, and still do.

but yes, we are mostly stuck

 

took the words out of my mouth. i just got done completely re theming vista to look like 7, and a couple apps that work like 7 like aeroshake, peek, and snap. i have the 7 calculator installed and working. i really dont see any need now to actually upgrade, vista works flawless for me, i have it all figured out for the most part and it does exactly what i want how i want it to.

and after service pack 2 final hits us soon, i think itll be just about perfect. im sure 7 will be awesome but im perfectly happy with vista.


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I am betting on release toward the end of 2012. I bet it will be using the WINFS file partition. With new stuff like Ray Tracing, SSD and other technologies, 8 will run great. MS will most likely put a lot of focus into touch and it is possible that it may have a UI for mouse and keyboard and a UI for touch that you will be able to choose. What ever they do, it will be cool.

 

the only way Windows can get un-stuck is to start cutting legacy support... for example at realease of Win 8, All 'offical' supportfor programs from the Win ME and earlier. If the programs run, great but if they don't... oh well.

also a more selective installation would help, so for example there a 'recommended' and a customize install option... that way you can pick and chose what part's of the OS to install, for example have a check box based system....
___Windows Mail
___Windows Media Player
___Windows Movie Maker
... ...

that way us geeks will get a lighter faster OS and the rest of the world can use recommended settings

 

Mail and Movie Maker are already not included in Windows 7.

 

I know, that's just an example, others could be
__IE
__ReadyBoost(if this isn't completely scrapped)
__superfetch

 

they can handle it with virtualisation. and they actually do so partially with vista, where they simulate a wrong world around applications to make them behave as they think they do.

if an app without admin right stores something in it's programs folder, that actually works (if it isn't an app that sais "i'm a vista app"). it won't be in that folder, though, it's only virtually working. it's in a user-folder saved instead, but the program never notices. vista does quite some of those virtualisations (registry etc comes to mind).

and they should go much further for pre-nt stuff (something like dosbox for dos-apps, something similar for win98-etc based stuff). as well for anything pre-vista.

 

services shouldn't be removable per se, as a lot of services nowadays are just mostly there for the case they're needed (and, to make people happy, won't even get started beginning with win7), just as drivers. you don't want to not have it when your system one day may require it.

but i'd love to get superfetch configurable with a simple gui.

 

Hope W8 will loose it's x86 support and be really a true OS finally. x86 bogs down development. MS needs to go with 64bit and beyond to really accelerate performance. There's no other competition with the exception of Apple and Linux but Windows seems to be far ahead of the game.

 

well, it's quite logic that they're working on it already... what i'm not sure about is if it's good for their PR to publish this kind of information though.

by the way, there's something wrong with the site linked in the first post, it's constantly crashing my Opera

 

VISTA SP2 is not out yet FFS

 

I view ReadyBoost as a necessity for people who cannot upgrade their system memory. Scrapping it would be disastrous.

As for SuperFetch, that's debatable but I also view that as a necessity. Vista (with SP1 or SP2) ran that very well, and many of my applications started much quicker because of it.

For IE, that can be optional. In my experiences with IE8-RC1, it ran very well. There are several other browsers that do their job well too, so this is a personal preference in a nutshell.

 

I disagree. Ram is SO cheap now days that it makes no sense to still have it. I mean, if you can spend 100-150 on upgrading your os but you can not spend 10-15 on a gig of ram? Come on. If your computer is not capable of it then perhaps you should save your money that you would have spent upgrading the os and buy a new computer.

I agree, when left on, superfetch makes a modern computer with enough ram run much faster. I actually think they should allow you to allocate various amounts of ram to the cause. Frankly, i have 8gb of ram and i would love to dedicate more to superfetch so that all my programs launch from ram.

I dont think it should be optional, i think there needs to be a browser on there by defaults. Even though i use firefox, how would one get on the net to download it? Or say firefox bugs out and you need to redownload it, then where to do you turn to if its not there. Perhaps people will want it off, but i will keep it.

 

Do yourself a favour and skip Vista.

Faster software iterations are BETTER, Linux and OS X release pretty quickly, helps them get nice new features in frequently.

The only issue with Microsoft doing it is that they have all of these variations and the professional versions (ie. the full OS), are quite expensive. So if they are releasing quickly and selling professional at high $$$ it will be difficult shelling out all that money for an OS. Would be nice to see Windows kill 'home' and 'basic' versions and just have a single desktop OS release and a single server release. It's the marketing guys getting MS to release all of these 'limited' versions.

 

Do yourself a favour and skip being a sheep. Vista is and works great on any modern system. It's a huge step upwards from windows xp.

There is no reason to skip it if you already have it. It works great, performs well, is very stable, great to use and looks great.

No, I don't want to force you to use it. You have enough other stuff going on. But don't say to others they should skip it just because you don't know how good it can be.

 

Even the optional stuff is always available to reinstallation without need for a disk. So in case, just in case, you can still reinstall ie from hdd and use it as needed.

I think it's nice they make it "turnoffable"

 

Agreed, been running vista since it first came out, and the bugs are well ironed out. it works and runs awesome. i love vista and wouldnt trade it for anything else. and yeah, i run linux frequently hate mac osx and used XP for a long time before finally deciding to see if the bad hype about vista was deserved or not. its not.


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