Safari (For Windows) Running at 99%?

I was just trying to play a video in the "last song played" thread in off-topic and Safari was freezing up like crazy.

I checked the tack manager and it was running at 99% and hogging tons of RAM. (I don't mind it hogging RAM, I have plenty. Having remaining 1% processing power is the issue.). And with all that processing power it couldn't manage to play the videos well.

I tried rebooting, changing the process priority & insulting my computer, but nothing changed this behavior.

This is the first time I have noticed an issue.

The only changes I have made within the past few days were disabling the paging file, defragging, then after that re-enabling the paging file. (I found no benefit to having no paging file).

I am going to do a virus check now, but I doubt that is the issue. Just checking to cover all my bases.

Any thoughts?

 

yea, remove the browser from your system and never use it again. lol

 

Maybe it is the browser. My only guess (if it is the browser) is that maybe it is trying to fetch the data from every streaming video inserted into the page. However that would be pretty lame, since I only told one of the videos to play. Or maybe this is the Music Gods telling me not to bother listening to Motley Crue?

 

Could you point me to that thread? I also have Safari because it is faster than Firefox. I would like to see if I have the same problem. Yes I am using XP Corp. SP3.

 

faster then FF3? you sure about that?

 

"faster" could mean a lot of things (faster at loading a page, downloading, etc). safari is faster at rendering (physically scrolling around an already loaded page) than just about every other browser ever. can't quite pinpoint the issue but it sounds like safari just has a bug and ultimately stuck the program in a loop.

use firefox for is stability and compatibility for now. even on a mac, i use safari for general usage for its speed, and firefox when safari has issues.

 

i think the disabled pagefile had something to do with it.

 

^ Maybe, though I`d steer clear of Safari , don`t really trust something that not so many people use...

 

I was not talking about a FF3. We need to submit some more bugs, for them to finish it and then we will see how the final version will work. I was talking about the latest stable version vs. Safari.

 

I don't use Apple products but when FF 2 latest version takes 15 seconds to load from cold and Safari takes 5 then something is wrong . With every FF2 update the browser is ****tier and ****tier . IEXPLORER 7 is not even worth mentioning. Opera does not render pages properly .

 

You people actually get that crap called safari running? The thing wouldn't even load, it crashes every time. I spent roughly two minutes using that thing just to check it out. I suggest you remove that decrepit piece of software, FF3 is coming, checkout my sig.

 

This is the tread. I also find Safari to be faster with loading web site. However it's download speed is dismal. I'm curious to try FF3 though.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=244921&page=444

I'll try FireFox. In my experience though, I never found it significantly better than IE. Although many have said it is more secure, I'm not sure I buy that.

Possibly. I re-enabled it yesterday. It was only off for a few hours. The only way I can imagine that my disabling could have caused this issue is if the page file is now in a less ideal place. However, that wouldn't explain why the processing power is bogged down so much.. Just the RAM consumption.

But it is pretty and shiny... So it must be good. Right?

I'll be sure to check out FF3 if Safari itself is the issue here.

EDIT: I downloaded a trial of Norton Antivirus to check out my system. After an extensive search it reported that there were no viruses or malware, but it "fixed" over 1,000 Windows temp files. When I looked at the files it "fixed" (deleted) it was all the Norton Antivirus installation files. Isn't that nice that it allowed me the opportunity to see it fixed something? Even if it did so by creating files to fix.

 

RC1 is out right now, and plus, you could get a safari theme to go with it and thousands of extensions too.

 

I am using Firefox right now. Not FF3 but the last stable release. It is better but still my performance is suffering trying to stream a video from that thread. Firefox is using 98% processing power, rather than Safari at 99%.

However, Firefox is playing everything fine and not locking up everything. Wait no.. Just locked up for 10 seconds.

I just did a clean install of Windows last week. Either this is a symptom of SP3 (which so far has worked fine) or it is just time for me to get faster hardware. Still using a Pentium M 1.4

 

greg, download FF3 RC1. its rock solid and much faster then FF2

 

I was just playing 3 videos at the same time from that thread with FFRC1 never taking more then 40% and it dropped down to about 15% agter 10 or 15 seconds with all three videos playing smoothly.

 

Both Safari and FF-latest stable version play fine without stuttering on one of my computers. I have Xp Pro Corp SP3 on the system i checked. IF this is the first time you notice and in the past that thread worked, there is a process in the background hogging your CPU.

 

Thanks for checking into that. I guess it is just time to buy a new laptop . My old Pentium M 1.4 needs to retire.

 

You are welcome. I tried the test again to check load times between FF and Safari and the latter takes more to load the thread. I think all those embedded clips and attempt to buffer them screws Safari's way of loading a page completely, whereas, FF loads it in stages.

Was it a Dothan I can't remember . I doubt a 1.4 GHz processor cannot cope with a simple page. I advise, before you lock it up, try to free up RAM at startup and use SP2. If no luck, then a new laptop is in order .

 

. hp-n5430 (amd duron 1ghz, 512mb, XP/SP3)
. minefield and safari 3.1.1, dsl
. abeit a bit slow at loading, overall zero issues with ur link, no stuttering on video streaming/playing.
. and i agree, safari looks pretty out of the box, but FF can be just as attractive with skin/themes

cheers ...

 

To be honest I'm not up to par with my processor names . I always need to reference other threads to remember what it's full name is. I guess I'm a negligent owner! Haha. I misstated it's name earlier. It is actually the Dothan Celeron M 360.

Again, thanks for checking that out.

You mentioned freeing up some RAM at startup & using SP2...

Currently I'm using SP3. When I have some free time I will load Windows w/ SP2 on another partition and see if it is the cause. Maybe there is just a little bug somewhere my system can't handle. I never had this issue before using SP3, so it is possible.

As far as RAM, does using a lot of RAM at startup affect the processing power in this way? I do use a lot of RAM at startup, but only a fraction of the 2GB I have installed. I will give it a shot though... See if it could be causing this.

 

In a way the processor is directly affected because it needs to take the load off the RAM and put in the pagefile. The more RAM you use, the more time the processor needs to do its page file operation and in order to cope with other applications(web+stream videos) it needs to work faster and faster, thus, 100% usage. This is one of the things they improved in VISTA. Pagefile and memory allocation in VISTA is flawless.

If you say SP2 had no problems before and it all started with SP3, then it means SP3 is dooing a poor job with the memory allocation process. It is a bit odd because I haven't noticed that on my System. At startup with Sp2 I have around 580MB and with Sp3 (the same apps) I have 520. One of the reasons I use SP3 because on my computer Windows knows how to toy and use its pagefile better.

 

You must be my long lost brother

 

Ya... Safari is the fastest browser on Windows and doesnt lag.

make sure u r on latest version

 

Have you run both of them? FF3 is in RC1 right now, Apple needs to work out the horde of bugs within safari on windows before they can even begin to claim the title of fastest browser

 

again, fastest in what way?

i think it is faster at rendering than any other browser, including ff3. i am not sure about page loading speed, or download speed, but i expect that it is decent. probably about average.

as far as bugs and pages not working, it is probably worse than average, just because it is a lot newer on windows compared to firefox.