Search libraries?

Is it just me or does the search function for libraries not work?

 

The search function works for me. What do you mean by "for libraries"?

cheers ...

 

If you go to your libraries... and try to perform a search... does it work?

The search function works for me everywhere... except for any folder in libraries...

 

I see what you mean. No, it did not work for me either. But I think that this is due to the fact that libraries are only pointers and not "physical" folders. At least that it is what I interpret. Hopefully we can get more inputs soon.

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ah ok.

can't say i agree with that explanation though, or else why would the tools put the search function there, you know?

i dunno.

be funny if they don't have this fixed for the RTM, surprised such a glaring "bug" made it's way to the RC.

 

It is just the same windows settings for all folders I am sure that we will get an answer/fix one way or the other. Can always ask the peoples who use the latest build to test this out.

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fair enough.

the RTM leaks should be hitting torrents pretty soon i imagine....

 

Works fine for me - how are you trying to search the libraries?

 

I go to my libraries....then go to the music library for instance... then up top it says "search music" then i type something in.. and it doesn't do jack.

 

Yup, works perfectly for me. Even checked that it wasn't just doing a search on all locations by making a copy of one of the files into another indexed area outside of the library.

You've not disabled any of the indexing functions or anything?

 

ah hm. ya indexing has been disabled along with windows search.

search works everywhere else though...

but that's probably it.

 

No go for me :-( RC on Gateway 64 Bits No disabling in indexing.

@Fragile /// do I need to re-index?

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No idea then; I mean the two things that immediately spring to mind is that indexing is switched off or the location you are trying to search has indexing disabled i.e. I partition my drive and disable indexing on some of the partitions as it's not necessary.

All I can tell you is that I too am using the RC 64bit and it looks like it works flawlessly for me.

 

I must have done some wacky thing. Let me go through the whole set up again.

@nu_D /// you get your indexing back on and try again yet?

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See below for screenies:

Select music library


search for "set me free"


EDIT: I also just checked searching for information contained in the tags rather than the file name, and that worked too.

Hope that helps.

 

Not know for sure what caused the issue. But I disabled and re-enabled indexing, reviewed indexing service to be sure that it is active, left it overnight, and it is now functioning.

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Oh ok. Guess that confirms it then...

I haven't re-enabled indexing nor search, want to keep my laptop running as quick as possible. I can live without having search in libraries, I just go to my folder and search from there...

Thanks for all the help guys.

 

it's not slower due to indexing. mythbusting needed?

 

Surely searching is always slower without indexing? I mean that is the case with most things.

 

I have the RC running on an old Inspiron 1100 and it is very responsive even with indexing. I'd go ahead and enable indexing and let the OS chew away for a day or two, then see if you have speed problems. Personally, I rarely use explorer now, since I can just type what I want at the Orb and Windows finds exactly what I want.

 

Indeed. Indexing only really takes lots of extra time when you are copying huge chunks of new data across. Typically after the first week or so it isn't going to slow your machine down that much. If all you want indexing for is to quickly search music & documents and the such, then a good alternative is to create two partitions on your drive. The first to install the OS to and the second for the documents etc. Then in Windows you can change the location for the documents folders (and music etc) to the new drive, set to index that one and not the other.

I always recommend partitioning your drive in this way anyway, simply because it means you can re-install your OS without having to worry about the loss of your personal files. It shouldn't of course be a substitute for a regular backup procedure though.

 

or just change the indexing settings to not index c:\users\ completely, but only your specific files. that way, it only ever gets activated if you really work with your user files, and not when anything in the app settings (\AppData) happens.

this reduces the amount of indexed files tremendously, and thus the system activity.

it's the only tweak i do on vista. it will be the only tweak i'll do on win7.

that way, you don't even need to have multiple partitions.

 

The user's AppData folder is specifically ignored by the Windows indexer unless the user chooses to add it explicitly.

 

maybe on win7, can't test right now. it wasn't on vista. when ignoring manually, it indexed on a fresh installation some 100 files (some early docs i've copied in, including the WLAN.txt and some driver downloads ). when not ignored, it indexed 10000s of files. so while it should (and does) ignore some stuff, it didn't ignore all that where useless to me.

 

Windows Vista and Windows 7 do not, by default, index the user's AppData directory. They ignore it, even when the User folder is selected, because AppData is included in a set of default Exclude directories.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb266513(VS.85).aspx

If you go open Vista's indexing options, you'll see that the User's folder lists "Defaults" under its exclude column. If you look through the entire list of indexed directories, you'll notice that some are greyed out, like ProgramData, and user/AppData. Those are being excluded from the indexer because they don't contain information that the user would normally search for.

If you go into AppData and select any file or directory and view the properties, they should have the indexing flag turned off, i.e. if you go through Properties > Advanced, you'll find that "Index this file for faster searching" is not checked. Finally, if you try and search for some file in your AppData folder, you shouldn't find it if you haven't altered your defaults. Try searching for UserTile or GamesBoxArt in the Start Menu. They won't show up because they are not in an indexed location.

Windows 7 is more explicit in what it is excluding - they've replaced the "Defaults" string under the Excludes column with the directory names that are excluded, so if you view the Indexing Options there, you'll find that AppData is listed as an excluded directory within Users.