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    Should I download win 7 beta 1?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Naix, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. Naix

    Naix Notebook Consultant

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    what is different about windows 7 beta?
     
  2. coolguy

    coolguy Notebook Prophet

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  3. Naix

    Naix Notebook Consultant

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    thanks coolguy.

    Does anyone have it installed? and if so, how does it feel?
     
  4. MasterChief07

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    You should clarify whether you mean W7 SP1 Beta or W7 Beta. They are two completely different things. :p
     
  5. Naix

    Naix Notebook Consultant

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    I meant windows 7 sp1 beta, my bad.
     
  6. newsposter

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    download whatever you want. Remember it's a beta.......
     
  7. Deks

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    The SP1 beta is just a testing stage of the service pack that will be released for Win 7.
    I advise against installing it until an official version comes out (unless of course you want to be one of the testers).

    All in all, a service pack for the most part is merely a collection of updates released by MS for a specific OS to date.
     
  8. Brawn

    Brawn The Awesome

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    its stupid to install a beta service pack, i guarantee you wont notice any difference, and then you'll have to go through the hassle of uninstalling it when the final version is released
     
  9. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    ..and IIRC there is a timebomb with that beta service pack.
     
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    I'd advise against it unless you are experiencing significant Windows 7 issues that are not solvable any other way. It was precisely because of Vista issues that were not work-around-able that I downloaded the Vista SP1 Beta via registry key hacks as soon as it was available by that means. Alas, it did not solve my Vista issues, and if you are having significant Windows 7 issues, you shouldn't count on the SP1 Beta to solve them, either, although it would be worth a try in such a circumstance. By "significant", I mean to the level that the timebomb probably wouldn't be an issue anyway, because if the SP beta didn't solve them, you'd probably downgrade to Vista/XP shortly, anyway, and if it did, reinstalling the SP once it is final would be far less trouble than you've put up with so far.

    Short of that sort of issue, no, you'd be much better off waiting until the final SP1.
     
  11. br0adband

    br0adband Notebook Guru

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    It's a beta, of a service pack, and it's publicly available because Microsoft can't possibly test the nearly infinite variety of hardware and software configurations that exist outside of their Redmond test labs. Releasing it publicly is basically Microsoft saying "Look, we know Windows 7 is great, but we're trying to make it better, if you're willing to help by testing this service pack with us, we'd appreciate it."

    They make it available so you, people outside those labs, with all your different machines, software, etc, can test the service pack while it's in beta and offer suggestions, tips, tricks, and most importantly bug reports so they can make it a more solid efficient update when it's finalized.

    Some of you look at it as though it's a bad thing - that means it's not for you, obviously. But there are those of us that do software testing and participate in the development of the OS, even in some small ways, that make it a better product.

    I've been a beta tester with Microsoft for over 25 years now, and I will continue to be one because I know some of the bug reports I send in make things happen. Not everyone can say "I'm a PC, and Windows 7 was my idea" and be honest about it, least of all the people in the commercials on TV.

    But for people like, I can, because I do.
     
  12. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    Basically, people who are running Windows 7 without issues shouldn't install it.
     
  13. luee

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    No, MS is bad with new stuff.
     
  14. Syberia

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    I seem to recall something by the name of Windows 7 being better than the "old stuff."
     
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    Everyone needs to remember that service packs, including the win7 sp1 beta, are NOT deinstallable. Once you load it on a machine, you're stuck.

    The only way to get rid of a service pack is to revert to a previous system restore point. If you do that you will loose all of your other system changes that came in after that restore point.

    You do save your restore points and don't blindly delete them, yes?

    Enjoy yourselves....
     
  16. Brawn

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    i'm pretty sure service packs can be uninstalled, unless they changed that in windows 7
     
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    msft has long said that even for service packs that have a gui or command line uninstall capability, the only safe way to do it is via reversion to a previous system restore point.

    Service packs aren't designed to be added and subtracted at will. They are designed to force-update a machine to a certain point.
     
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    Service packs can be uninstalled, but it is advisable to simply restore to before the service pack.

    Service packs change numerous system files at once. If you update a system driver or install some program dependent on a system file, well then uninstalling the service pack will affect that driver or program. It's not service pack that can cause problems. It is the combination of the service pack and whatever changes you make to your system after that that will affect the system stability after uninstalling that service pack.
     
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    Isn't SP1 just a mix of old updates and like 3 new features?

    I wouldn't install it unless you are doing it to test it (not looking for speed/nonfeature improvements).