So will Windows 7 FINALLY be the death of Windows XP?

Aside from compatability issues, do you think Windows 7 will finally convert the Vista nay-sayers from XP? I am personally one of those Vista nay-sayers, but the more I use Windows 7, the more I love it. I will most likely have a dual boot with XP, mainly for some older games.

Please do not turn this thread into an XP vs. Vista hate thread. By this point we all know what Vista and XP offer, and there are those that adopted Vista with open arms, or with hesitation, and those that haven't converted yet. So just let's all agree to disagree.

 

If anyone catches wind that Windows 7 is essentially a VERY polished and heavily revised Vista core, it will fail miserably and Microsoft will go out of business. The only thing that will ever kill XP is the end of support by Microsoft, and even then I'm sure some people will continue holding on till their dying breath. XP is quickly becoming the cockroach of the computing world.

That said, I liked XP, I really liked Vista, and I really like the Windows 7 RC.

 

I hope you are saying that kiddingly? I agree that if they in any way, shape or form refer to it as Vista, it will fail, but I don't think MS will go out of business.

 

I doubt there will be a flood of people upgrading their existing machines from XP, but there will definitely be fewer people demanding XP on their new machines. I'm pretty sure that most users who buy computers, however, will welcome Windows 7.

Also, I doubt government facilities and schools will upgrade their XP machines any time soon, seeing as it would be a burden for their IT teams and for their budget (although my school upgraded to Office 07 at the beginning of this year, from Office 2000, so who knows?).

So, I marked No, but in certain senses, it is a Yes.

 

So will Windows 7 FINALLY be the death of Windows XP?
No.. the question is awkwardly worded. If W7 was the death of XP, then W7 wouldn't exist.

 

You know Windows 7 has "XP MODE" right?

Also, regardless Windows XP will die out as it will lose less support from MSFT the closer Windows 7 arrives. Or whatever date that MSFT said for XP. Sometime in 2010? or 2011?

 

Eventually the XP fanatics will die off and their offspring will adopt Windows 20. But staying true to the oral traditions pasted down they will complain that its not as fast as XP.

Honestly there is nothing wrong with any of the OS's. They are all good.

Its just that XP is getting old. And soon new technologies that come out will not be supported in the OS. Yes some smart individual somewhere will figure out a way to duct tape in support but it will die out eventually.

People are just starting to see this and getting frustrated. Its getting harder and harder to get all the XP drivers for the latest and greatest laptops. Its only going to get worse.

 

yup W7... makes me laugh... all it is Vista with a couple of mod's and a new name...

I hava the RC installed but I can't find Drivers for my Ralink based WiFi N card... so rigth now I'm not even interested until that driver is written(I tried the Vista drivers... no luck).

 

I am pretty sure I saw a few copies of XP in the bin at the store the other day, filed with all the other b-grade zombie flicks.

 

i love windows 7 out of all of them. but xp won't die our for other 3-5 years because of schools and alot of other places. plus most people computers are so old xp and older is the only thing that will run on it.

i think that we need to leave xp so game developers can finally optimize dx10 even though 11 is near by.

 

It'll really depend. Until XP support drops to 0, then some people will continue using it.

It's not necessarily a question of them hating Vista/loving XP as much as it's sometimes people who don't want to spend money on a new OS if it doesn't suit their needs. My school still has dinosaurs with Windows 98 in their physics labs because they don't need to run anything, but those basic data gathering programs. So for similar types of situations, perhaps some users will stick with what they already have.

I'm using XP on most my machines, but I like Vista and love Windows 7. However, I don't feel like spend money on 6 licenses of Windows 7... Soooo I'll just leech off the few months left within XP before considering the next step >.> I will however purchase Windows 7 with a new laptop if it comes wiht it no doubt.

Technically speaking, I had Windows 2000 until 3 years after XP came out lol (switched to XP in 2004-2005 IIRC).

 

My school (and probably many other institutions and colleges) is still using XP. Only the computer department (CIS classes) uses Vista, and no administrative restrictions on these computers. I don't think XP will die out for a couple more years. As for the general consumers, not sure.

 

in work environment, no. but in consumer place, it's dying right now. most people i know around here just use vista, and with some help, they actually are capable of learning "the new" and liking it (but a lot are really hard to get rid of their old habbits from win98 days.. )

in work environment, i still have xp here, and will so at least till the end of 2010. companies right now don't have interest in change, with the economic crysis they prefer to just kick out the whole it-change-department that was testing out vista since years to do the switch. switching costs money => noone likes it.

 

The thing is, half the Vista nay-sayers are Vista nay-sayers because of compatibility issues. So you can't really ignore compatibility. And Windows 7 isn't that much more XP-compatible than Vista, so it alone isn't going to convert that many of them, though newer programs that do what the Vista-unfriendly ones do on Windows 7 might.

But other than that, Windows 7 isn't that much different than XP. It's more stable than Vista and has some nice new features that'll convert some XP users, but if you're running XP because you are happy with it or can't afford Vista, you'll most likely stick with it at least until you can buy a new machine.

So I'd say (1) Some people will still elect to use XP over Win7, all else equal, (2) Fewer people will do so (3) Most current XP users will keep using XP until they buy a new machine (4) How much Microsoft charges for upgrades will determine how much [3] is applicable - if they charge what they usually charge, [3] will prove very true.

For myself, as a Vista nay-sayer (from experience, not word-of-mouth), I'll be sticking with XP. Primarily due to compatibility issues, but also because there's no killer feature in Windows 7 that would make it worth dual-booting.

 

From what I've been seeing, im very keen to give Windows 7 a go. Should be able to get it on a discount as well. If only I'd find a new place to move into and get off bloody 3g internet I'd have downloaded the RC by now to have a go. Oh well.

I believe XP will continue on for a fair amount of time with businesses, why dump something that works and cause your IT department/customers grief?

 

because it's progress?

yes, i know... in the end, you'd have to prove that it'll save money in the long run, and don't ruin the company in the short run.. and that's difficult.

but i've made some numbers for our company, and it looks like the amount of time saved by switching all our hdd's to intel ssds would outweight their cost

so you can fiddle around all numbers how ever you want to get them to upgrade. if you want, yourself.

but in most it departements, even the geeks in there stagnated. lets do all webapps as we don't even have to think, then, at all.. don't matter if they suck for the users espencially if they don't have 100% uptime, which most servers don't in companies

 

what?? you guys have vista! I wanna go to your school. In Computing Science at my university we are stuck with Windows 2000, not that it's a bad OS, its just a little on the old side...

 

For me, W7 will very well be the death of XP.

 

I used Windows 7 for 4 days, much much better than Vista, but I will ditch XP? NEVER, it does everything I want at blistering speeds, I get bored with the eye candy quickly, I just want a stable OS that gives me Max speed FTW

kthxbye

XP FTW

 

I have yet to see any corporation using Vista, all of them use XP

 

For me it boils down to this. My home "general purpose" computer is Xp. This computer is really only used for web browsing and skype calls. It works great for it's intended purpose. I'm not going to spend any money, or my time, to upgrade it. When it dies, I'll build a new home computer and install the most current OS.

My gaming laptop already has Vista 64bit but if it had XP I would have already upgraded.

If the new W7 isn't priced in the clouds, I think people will see what an improvement it is.

 

I know people who still use Windows 2K. They refuse to update their programs and drivers. And plus, it still works.

This time around, the media is on Microsoft's side. Whenever you can fool the media, you are going to win. Gotta run that FUD campaign.

 

how could it when there adding xp to windows 7 only lengthens the need/want for it

 

My entire college made a Vista/Office 07 transition except for a few Dell Optiplex machines that they didn't upgrade.

 

I guess I should have been a little more meticulous with my word choices. I know that businesses will stick with XP or 2000, or whatever works for them for their applications.

But for the regular consumer who buys a PC if they had a choice over Windows XP or 7, if they had the chance to experience 7, would they?

Vista had such a flop of a launch, even if it IS improved with SP1 and drivers, that initial bad taste is hard to overcome. Granted when you sell PC's with ONLY Vista, consumers don't have a lot of choice.

 

When people's qualms with a series are resolved, their impulse to buy also stalls. I still use MS Word 2003, because I never felt that the tweaks and refinements offered by 2007 were worth my installing and relearning the software. Same thing with some of my 3D modeling software.

 

I think it's called "Aero snap" that makes me love Win7. Using a 26" 1920x1200 monitor means that instantly resizing and positioning a window to half my screen is an amazing feature for comparing, say, two documents side-by-side or researching the net while writing a paper.

I like your av!

 

Doesn't work with dual monitors.

 

what doesnt work?

 

Aero snap or whatever it is called, then again, there is no point for that with dual monitors.

 

except when you have big 16:9 screens, then it would be nice to be able to snap four windows side by side

it would be nice to have a top-bottom aero snap, too, when i'm in tablet mode. afaik, that doesn't work eighter..

and that's another thing where i can say win7 is not about usability, but about gimmicks. else they would've thought further than just "uh cool" while developing it.

 

I could do 4 windows side by side if they actually "snapped" to the insides. Dual 22's ftw.

 

bah, dual 22's.. dual 30" ftw!!

(no, i don't have them.. yes, i do want them.. 2x 2560x1600.. or 4 in a square? )

 

Windows 7 will not be the death of xp nor the death of vista its all up to the consumer to see what rather fits their needs in work, school, and everyday life computing. Each one has its strengths and weaknesses it all come down to what the hell the person wants some people prefer windows xp for gaming, some people prefer windows vista for business or vice versa it all comes down to NEEDS....Yes vista looks nice but if u take away all the bling u see that its just like xp. My school offices use vista business......why u may ask, they prefer the security vista offers over xp and they use xp in class rooms due to the friendly user interface that anybody can use and understand. Most of my text books i use for school are all based in a vista environment. But in the end its all up to the consumer, of what he or she wants in their computer. Just my opinion

 

This is my opinion also. And it is what I will be doing. Not not demanding.. or I won't, i mean i don't ... but.. yeah, keep XP on my existing machine, get 7 when I buy a new one.

 

and this was the rule all the time? yes, exactly

still, we migrated even old pc's to vista on a friends club. but mainly just because it's just nice to have the same environment everywhere. what's even worse than being annoyed by vista OR xp? being annoyed by BOTH (one machine you can start by pressing win and start writing, another can't.. etc.. all the same == good, no matter if the actual os is good or not).

and, as he likes vista after i teached him about some reasons why something happens that way, he is happy that now even the old p4 run it well.

BUT, we managed to handle it legally without paying much for new hw / sw. found some ram sticks of not-used systems, now he has a p4 with 3gb ram great for him as he does a lot of paintwork on it.

 

For the average consumers XP will die out with the computer which were shipped with it. Some tech savvy people will claim XP is better than anything else and still install it on new computers in 10 years but they are a minority.

As for business users, they need support...no support, no OS. So XP will live in the business environment until 2014, when the extended support ends.

 

TBH, the main reason I stick with XP is for backwards compatability with games. I actually have an older machine running Windows 98 / DOS for those really old games. I just haven't taken the time to run with DOSBox or anything to make them work.

 

The title of the thread is actually different from the poll question; nonetheless, my answer to both is the same - "No." Firstly, as to the title of the thread: no, Win7 will not be the "death" of XP - my father, for example, has ten y.o. desktop on which he still runs Win98, the total lack of security support from MS notwithstanding. Since XP will get security updates via extended support through April of 2014, XP will continue to live on for at least 5 more years, and considerably longer with folks like my dear old pops.

Secondly, as to the poll question: no, Win7 will not finally convert the _Vista naysayers because, to be utterly cynical about the whole thing, the simplest rhetorical strategy is to simply maintain the stance that Win7 is qualitatively better than _Vista ever was (or could be), and thus that _Vista was, and is, the functional equivalent of WinME SE.

Now, I'm not advocating that position (nor arguing agin it, right now), but it seems too clear to question that a lot of people who have painted themselves into a corner with anti-Vista sentiment will simply avoid having to step in that wet paint by figuratively climbing out the window of the above-mentioned rhetorical strategy.

Put more simply, people are people, not rational beings, and for a lot of nonrational, emotional, all-too-human reasons, some folks who took a rigid anti-Vista position will simply not be able to back down, even implicitly.

The rest of us, well, we'll make do with what's available, always keeping in mind that there is a better individual user's OS out there (albeit with a pretty steep learning curve that requires that you take some time off from your regular computing habits to deal with) - any one of the numerous well-polished linux variants now cropping up.

 

If you read my earlier post to you in this thread, you would have noticed that Windows 7 has XP Mode.

 

For me, I will stick with and enjoy XP until my lappie dies (came with rock solid XP installation and recovery).

I don't need bells and whistles or eye candy. Just a lappie that always works properly, stably and reliably. No issues.

Nothing worse than facing a customer and looking like a fool because the information they want has dissapeared from my screen.

Thats probably why XP will live for a while still. Like 2000, people understood it and got used to it. 2000 is (and probably will stay for a long time a favourite OS for many companies still).

XP was an improvement. It looked prettier but was a little harder to master by the person taking the stress with constant customer pressure and answers needed. And no unexpected surprises from the comp. XP, albeit being prettier than 2000, got the job done reliably. So was widely accepted in business. And got better with every Service Pack released. Tuned to perfection for business. And has probably ended up the best of the best M$ offerings yet for business purposes.

Believe me, if you have an angry customer in front of you, you do not want
to look at a beautiful screen.

You want something uncomplicated and totally reliable.

That works and gives you the answer that you are looking for.

In a corporate enviroment, 2000 was excellent. Both easy to use and understand. Minimum training necessary. XP took over however with training for employees that was necessary to understand, implement and exercise the "new features". A lot of money was spent on training and implementation thereof. And it was no so long ago.

Hence, companies are not going to spend more money changing something to M$ 7. They ignored Vista and Windows 7 is next.

My prediction....XP will be around for a while yet. And supported by M$.

So Windows 7 will not be the death of XP.

 

Talking about OS dying out...I worked in a Regus building few weeks ago and they still have Windows Milenium on their comps at the reception, catering manager and other offices...I bet we could still find somebody using Windows 98...However, most of people who buy or order new comps don't care enough to be bothered to ask for Windows xp installation, even less if they have to do it themselves...When I was buying my ThinkPad in 2007 I was planning to downgrade from Vista business, as the XP CD was supplied...But I kept postponing it "until I find" Vista unresponsive and incompatible...NEVER HAPPENED! True, Vista had/has some issues and IS resource hog, but after SP2 it should run smoothly as XP did/does...Having said that, the fact remains that WINDOWS XP WILL BE REMEMBERED AS ONE OF THE GREATEST OS IN THE HISTORY!

 

most game-stations in bars and clubs (the thingies with touchscreen, and poker games, and find-the-differences-games, and the adult games etc) are win98 based.. till today

and YES they allow to be connected to the interwebldebl don't want to do that with ours, don't want to see our vdsl connection going down due too much spamming around

 

I'm hearing all about the XPs, the Vistas, and the Windoze 7s.....but where are all the MAC's in the institutions?

 

where should they be? surely not in a windows forum

 

Not so many of them in the institutions, especially not goverment ones...MS has got strong lobby in most of the countries, so I doesn't some as surprise when poor Balkan countries (goverments!) buy stocks of Vista versions and Microsoft Office, even though they could use Linux and function perfectly fine-I talk here about functionality that should be present in everyday office practice and ease of use when it comes to applications needed for documentation, classification and accounting, as well as some others...
Even though Macs are nice and good operating systems are found inside reliable hardware, Apple still seems to be more consumer than strictly professional/business/administerial, etc., orientated... Sure, you can see them in movies and TV series, being in an office or even police quarters, but there is just that feel of omnipresent eye candy, no matter what application, or program you're using...
Linux on the other hand provides much needed room for tweaking and adjusting, and there are so many versions of it nowadays...Only reason why Linux isn't adopted by institutions is LOBBY!

I run Windows 7, Vista Business and Ubuntu-therefore no bias...

 

Yeah, i think so. Because most of the people still hanging on to XP are the public who have a bad opinion on vista. When W7 is released, everyone will think its new and soooo much different (which its not), and switch to it. But some of the (somewhat ) knowledgable vista haters will know that 7 is almost just like vista, and turn to 7 haters...

We'll see. But i think alot of people will be looking forward to getting 7. From XP.

 

It looks like they are using IBM Thinkpads with XP on the International Space Station. If you are in orbit and it ain't broke, don't upgrade.

 

That function is also present on XP... I think even windows 2k has it. It's pretty nifty.